In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
My interpretation was that the crack was acting as an inflow for the gutter water ... and that the hole (while recycling some water back to the foundation) was additionally mostly just a large flow ballast for the sump, filling up then draining away, filling up then draining away ... (and so not entirely defeating the sump's work to remove water from around the foundation)
Quick reply.
I added a lot and edited things before you replied as I re-read it and thought of other stuff to add.
But, yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking is going on here.
I don't remember exactly why I put the level so high in that well before the pump triggers because my memories of those days are foggy, but I'm pretty sure after having to change out two sumps in freezing water up to my knees I didn't want to burn out a 3rd pump and because of the crack bringing a lot of water right back in I didn't want the thing going off every minute for a few days straight during and after a heavy storm.
I think now that the pipe is fixed, I've mitigated that very large problem and if I can manage to get the pump situated where it goes off before the inlet pipe, or at least only halfway up the inlet pipe, then it should keep this from happening again. (All of those gallons of heavy water building up 10" to 12" above the inlet pipe while the pump is doing nothing is preventing a constant good flow of inlet water to the well via gravity, I would guess)
I'm glad I left the trench open during all of this to figure these things out. Had I filled it up first and I saw this behavior with the pump intervals, I'd probably be digging it all right back up again today, confident that it was busted again.
None of this behaved the way I expected it to, but what do I know? I'm an idiot. Until last night, I think I've spent the last 8 years in this house diagnosing my water issues as if I were trying to diagnose cancer via WebMD.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I edited and added as well! So I'll see you and raise you! Ha Ha!
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Signy
My interpretation was that the crack was acting as an inflow for the gutter water ... and that the hole (while recycling some water back to the foundation) was additionally mostly just a large flow ballast for the sump, filling up then draining away, filling up then draining away ... (and so not entirely defeating the sump's work to remove water from around the foundation)
Hey Jack - I guess we X-posted! This was to Signy, posted before your expl came up.
I have one quick comment off the top of my head - before I think about I too deeply - "1. I need to shorten the float and get the pump lower into the well so it goes off earlier and stays on until the level gets lower before shutting off without going too low as to make the pump suck in air." Is your pump submerged or above the well? Submerged pumps might rely on water for cooling, so if submerged, you probably shouldn't allow the water level to expose it.
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The pump is submerged when the water is already very much above the inlet pipe. When it shuts off (usually around 28 seconds of operation) it is almost entirely exposed with just enough water to keep it from sucking in air.
Everything I've read didn't mention overheating at all, but did mention that if you suck in air instead of water you're going to have a burnt out pump almost immediately.
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This thing has been trying to update itself for the last two days and it won't work. I give up on trying to get it to update.
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Brenda - the website isn't updating?
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I'm exhausted...
Did way more than I thought I'd do today.
Got the hole filled in, and I re-graded about 90% of the dirt bed in front of the house and got the patio pavers under where the gutters need to be installed so they don't divot the ground anymore. I was able to monitor every time the sump pump went off while I was out there too since it was easy to hear with the cap off of the cleanout.
When I started, it was close to 20 minutes between cycles. Strangely, when I filled everything in, it went back down to around 16 to 17 minutes between cycles. Maybe this had to do with me packing dirt down all over the place, and maybe from putting dirt down in the hole that was very wet and directly above the inlet?
I dunno... but I'm not worried that anything broke when I put it back together. Flow looks amazing compared to when the pipe was cracked when the pump is flowing, water continues to run around 20 seconds after the pump stops and then the flow dies, and the water is clean with no evidence of any dirt being pulled into it. I was able to see witness this with around 20 cycles while I was out there working.
We're back close to 20 minutes between cycles right now. I'd imagine that will be quite a bit less by the time I wake up tomorrow.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Brenda - the website isn't updating?
Website is fine Kiki. I am talking about those updates from Windows that you get notifications on.
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Windows 10?
Is it giving you any sort of error, or after you rebooted is it giving you any messages regarding the failed update?
They are rather important. I know you don't use credit cards, but there's other reasons why you'd want at least the basic protection of having an updated windows.
I had problems with one of the installs in the last 6 months that took a few tries to get right. I can't remember what I did other than just trying to let it do its thing when I was going to work so I wouldn't miss having the computer and it finally went through. Maybe we could figure it out.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Windows 10?
Is it giving you any sort of error, or after you rebooted is it giving you any messages regarding the failed update?
They are rather important. I know you don't use credit cards, but there's other reasons why you'd want at least the basic protection of having an updated windows.
I had problems with one of the installs in the last 6 months that took a few tries to get right. I can't remember what I did other than just trying to let it do its thing when I was going to work so I wouldn't miss having the computer and it finally went through. Maybe we could figure it out.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yeah that's the one.
No, I don't shop on line at all.
I got a "could not complete the install" message.
I made one mistake on its first try, as I turned my computer back on and that screwed it up. Then Saturday or Friday night, I let it go but it still didn't complete it. So, when it comes up again I will let it go.
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