Joker
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UPDATED: Monday, March 30, 2026 18:33
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Not having seen it who am I to say, still. The hype is reminding me of the shining. Certain things in scenes would be different to show when Nicholson's character was in and out of reality. Like the kids three wheeler changing color. Lights switches being on the wall in one scene and not in another.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:This description fits Joker running amok. Any part fit you?
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Which makes it all the more hilarious that the SJW weirdo brainwashed lefties went around insulting people and calling them incels before the movie was even released.
Yup. Good idea, knuckleheads. Poke the hornet nest.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:"How the Mind Works" by Steven Pinker
I am not an important or "big man." I possess only my personal sense of dignity. My life has been reduced to nothing by an intolerable insult. Therefore, I have nothing to lose except my life, which is nothing, so I trade my life for yours, as your life is favoured. The exchange is in my favour, so I shall not only kill you, but I shall kill many of you, and at the same time rehabilitate myself in the eyes of the group of which I am a member, even though I might be killed in the process.
https://books.google.com/books?id=5cXKQUh6bVQC&pg=PA364&lpg=PA
364#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Nope. But we all knew what you were doing there.
Nobody should be afraid of admitting that Joker was a great flick.
Go fuck yourself, ya mental midget.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I downloaded Joker, the Movie, to see if 6ixStringJoker is telling the truth. Well, it must be his own personal truth about what is a great movie.
As a ten year old, my reference point for great cinema was Lawrence of Arabia. After seeing it I read Seven Pillars of Wisdom by T. E. Lawrence, borrowed from the library. That movie did not leave me in doubt about how much was real and how much was only Lawrence dreaming he goes to war, while Joker is ill, doubt filled and hallucinating his reality.
Seven Pillars of Wisdom by T.E. Lawrence
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/l/lawrence/te/seven/introduction1.html
"In these pages the history is not of the Arab movement, but of me in it. It is a narrative of daily life, mean happenings, little people. Here are no lessons for the world, no disclosures to shock peoples. It is filled with trivial things, partly that no one mistake for history the bones from which some day a man may make history, and partly for the pleasure it gave me to recall the fellowship of the revolt. We were fond together, because of the sweep of the open places, the taste of wide winds, the sunlight, and the hopes in which we worked. The moral freshness of the world-to-be intoxicated us. We were wrought up in ideas inexpressible and vaporous, but to be fought for. We lived many lives in those whirling campaigns, never sparing ourselves: yet when we achieved and the new world dawned, the old men came out again and took our victory to re-make in the likeness of the former world they knew. Youth could win, but had not learned to keep: and was pitiably weak against age. We stammered that we had worked for a new heaven and a new earth, and they thanked us kindly and made their peace."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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No surprise you didn't like it.
You're an idiot.
Go troll back in the RWED.
Awards (Everything it's been up for it has won already):
Venice Film Festival 2019
Winner / Graffetta d'Oro for Best Film
Fanheart3 Award / Todd Phillips
Winner / Best Film
Golden Lion / Todd Phillips
Winner / Best Soundtrack
Soundtrack Stars Award / Hildur Guðnadóttir
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7286456/awards
It's also already made $750 Million on an estimated $55 Million budget.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Joker-(2019)#tab=box-office
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7286456/?ref_=nv_sr_2?ref_=nv_sr_2
It's pretty safe to say that it will make more money than any comic book movie ever made compared to how much it cost to make.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm going back to calling you Six in this section, Cinema, because we're talking on a level as men, who happen to love film (or real art).Quote:
I do like your choice to call it a "film", rather than a movie. Although I think it's even more than that.Quote:
You are right Six. This is,as I have said above, a masterwork, a piece of art.
It is Beethoven's 9th, Kubrick's 2001, Stairway to Heaven.......
Thanks man. If it makes you feel any better, I'll always call you SGG.
I think one of the most impressive things to consider about this movie was it was directed by the guy that brought us The Hangover movies and Old School. (I actually remember really liking Old School, back in my 20's, but I didn't care at all for the Hangover movies).
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Six, I continue here:
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...took a Film class in college, and the "films" they had us watch were your usual fare like Citizen Kane and 2001: A Space Odyssey. To me, those are "Films". Outdated bullshit that intellectuals pretend to love while they're smelling their own farts and talking down to people who "just don't get it".
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Me too, film class. It got me to appreciate the difference between a movie and "film." True art does not 'look down' on anyone. Like you say below....
"Joker was an experience. It was an event."
I don't think that Citizen Kane or 2001: A Space Odyssey looked down on anybody, or were designed by people who looked down on the masses themselves. I think it's the educated "elite" that use their supposed love of these films as a way to look down on others that don't like them.
I've actually had discussions about both of these films on a few occasions over the years, starting with my film instructor at the time. Surprisingly, he agreed with me and asked me "how do you think I feel? Do you know how many times I've had to sit through them?"
My take is that both of them probably were pretty great for their time. There really wasn't that many movies out there back when Citizen Kane came out to compare it to. Although I am a bit perplexed why it is still heralded as the greatest movie ever made today, when Gone With the Wind and The Wizard of Oz pre-dated it by 2 years.
And for 2001, I get what Kubrick was trying to do. There is no sound in space. Things don't move quickly. It is almost like a ballet out there. But it's boring. I liked the interactions with HAL, but other than that, it was a snorefest. Although I didn't care for his torture porn A Clockwork Orange, I quite like most of the Kubrick movies I've ever seen. He was just an extremely experimental guy who had his own visions and made them come to life no matter what people were telling him to do. I can respect that.
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I can't even say it was "emotional" for me. It wasn't exactly emotions that I was feeling. I didn't feel sadness for his character, or more accurately, I didn't feel any more than a normal person would. I didn't feel "cringe" for him during parts that would normally have made me feel the cringe, like when he was failing miserably at the stand up comedy.
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Me!? I felt his pain. I identified with the sadness that I felt he was going through. It was as though he wanted to cry, but instead he chose to laugh through the tears. It felt to me like he was frustrated, because all he wanted
was to be heard and understood. But I get what you're saying, this is what I mean about "true art" like this film. It reveals, it takes you along a path,
it opens the mind. It delivers the experience.
You know. I might have felt his pain. It's hard to tell. There was just too much sensation overload from that performance. I can't even really go back and reflect on exactly what I felt a full week l
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Quote:No surprise you liked Joker, 6ixStringJoker.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No surprise you didn't like it.
You're an idiot.
Go troll back in the RWED.
With Joker, the sequel has been made many times, already.
www.metacritic.com/movie/joker/critic-reviews
VulturE
David Edelstein
The downside to the performance is the downside to the movie: It's one note played louder and louder
The New Yorker
Anthony Lane
Such is the strenuous effort of Phoenix’s performance that it becomes exhausting to behold
The New Yorker
Richard Brody
The result is a movie of a cynicism so vast and pervasive as to render the viewing experience even emptier than its slapdash aesthetic does.
Slate
Dana Stevens
Joker is a bad movie, yes: It's predictable, cliched, deeply derivative of other, better movies, and overwritten to the point of self-parody. (If a feature-length sendup of Joker was made, it's hard to imagine in what details it would differ from Joker itself.) The experience of sitting through it is highly unpleasant, but that unpleasantness has less to do with graphic violence — there are only one or two scenes that go hard, gore-wise — than with claustrophobia and boredom. Read full review
TIME
Stephanie Zacharek
Phoenix is acting so hard you can feel the desperation throbbing in his veins. He leaves you wanting to start him a GoFundMe. so he won't have to pour so much sweat into his job again. But the aggressive terribleness of his performance isn't completely his fault. Read full review
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Any one who claims Joker is a “ bad “ movie is lying. Or didn’t see it. Or absolutely thought captain Mary Sue was the bestest movie evah!
And loves woke Batwahman too.
Slate?
Too damn funny.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by second:Quote:No surprise you liked Joker, 6ixStringJoker.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No surprise you didn't like it.
You're an idiot.
Go troll back in the RWED.
With Joker, the sequel has been made many times, already.
www.metacritic.com/movie/joker/critic-reviews
VulturE
David Edelstein
The downside to the performance is the downside to the movie: It's one note played louder and louder
The New Yorker
Anthony Lane
Such is the strenuous effort of Phoenix’s performance that it becomes exhausting to behold
The New Yorker
Richard Brody
The result is a movie of a cynicism so vast and pervasive as to render the viewing experience even emptier than its slapdash aesthetic does.
Slate
Dana Stevens
Joker is a bad movie, yes: It's predictable, cliched, deeply derivative of other, better movies, and overwritten to the point of self-parody. (If a feature-length sendup of Joker was made, it's hard to imagine in what details it would differ from Joker itself.) The experience of sitting through it is highly unpleasant, but that unpleasantness has less to do with graphic violence — there are only one or two scenes that go hard, gore-wise — than with claustrophobia and boredom. Read full review
TIME
Stephanie Zacharek
Phoenix is acting so hard you can feel the desperation throbbing in his veins. He leaves you wanting to start him a GoFundMe. so he won't have to pour so much sweat into his job again. But the aggressive terribleness of his performance isn't completely his fault. Read full review
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Whatever you say, bitch.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Any one who claims Joker is a “ bad “ movie is lying. Or didn’t see it. Or absolutely thought captain Mary Sue was the bestest movie evah!
And loves woke Batwahman too.
Slate?
Too damn funny.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
He didn't see it. He's a pathological liar.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Parody of the idiot right here.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Rappy, you're starting to scare me (kidding, of course).
But you're spot on. What is real and what is in the mind of the Joker is exactly the point. We don't know where Arthur ends and the Joker begins, or did Arthur ever end? He tells us, then shows us what exactly? It is brilliant.
We get a glimpse into the unstable mind of a psychopath, a mentally unbalanced
person. Did he ever leave the insane asylum? Did he imagine it all? Did he really kill his mother? Did he have a mother?
Was he ever a clown? Did he get a gun from a co-worker? Everything has to be questioned because of the absolutely brilliant way the script was written.
And within the film many more questions and statements without being preachy.
Arthur getting a gun for instance. Bottom line; he shouldn't.
sgg
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Only seen it once, but the mind games the audience is subjected to is nothing short of brilliant.
Much like Fight Club, we're seeing the story unfold through the eyes of unreliable narrator . However, as the movie unfolds, we're let in on a little secret. Not everything we've seen actually happened. There's a weaving of events from his point of view and then what takes place in the real world. There's speculation as how much of the movie really happened, mostly or entirely , from inside Arkham Asylum ?
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