Ghosts

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, October 11, 2019 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.

Why do we stuff that is not there now, and will be there in the future, just like we saw? Double blind studies, proving precognition, but without our being aware of it.

Double blind studies showing things are seen, just not in the immediate proxity, but seen exactly as they are at that moment, just countries or continents away?

1KIKI

Friday, October 11, 2019 7:55 AM

You know, ghosts and the supernatural have really taken off as a WAY overrepresented genre in television. There must be close to a couple dozen shows by now. It reminds me of people bowing to Mecca when called to prayer by a recording over a loudspeaker, or country bumpkins talking about the devil over the phone. It seems no amount of the products of science and technology in their lives is enough to bring their thinking into the modern world.

Anyway, I'm a firm non-believer. And every time I see something on TV that's a cell-phone capture of a 'ghost' or a 'voice recording' or some such, my first question is - gee I wonder what that really is / how could it have been faked? And so on.

Anyway, to get to the picture ...

Yanno, people back then were just as complicated as they are now. I know when I see an old-timey photo, I tend to think of those people as static, one-dimensional avatars of historic stereotypes. But they got bored, too. And some people liked notoriety. And some people like to punk their neighbors and friends. There's no reason to think that the photo represents anything except a prank.

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I don't believe in 'em, but hell, if there's a creepier photo ever taken than this, I've never seen it, and sure as hell don't ever want to.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 11, 2019 8:01 AM

Oh, sure. I'm a skeptic on just about everything.

However, I have seen things that I can't explain, so I'm not going to tell somebody personally that they're full of shit for believing they've seen the same. I won't extend the same courtesy to any TV shows that have advertising on them though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Friday, October 11, 2019 8:11 AM

I have never seen anything that wasn't part of the natural world around me. And while I've known people who hallucinated, they were definitely hallucinating.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 11, 2019 5:40 PM

I didn't take drugs when I was 8 years old. Not sure what I would have been hallucinating on.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Friday, October 11, 2019 8:30 PM

Did you not get that I was posting about people I know personally, IRL, Jack? And that my observation didn't extend to you? That I in fact made no comment at all about you?

AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 12, 2019 2:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.
Why do we stuff that is not there now, and will be there in the future, just like we saw? Double blind studies, proving precognition, but without our being aware of it.

Double blind studies showing things are seen, just not in the immediate proxity, but seen exactly as they are at that moment, just countries or continents away?

Pretty sure those ' studies ' haven't been validated. Otherwise, they'd have claimed the James Randi prize of over a million dollars or so. Last I checked, no one has cashed in yet.

https://web.randi.org/home/jref-status

* Seems that since Mr. Randi has retired and the challenge hasn't had any serious takers, the $ set aside is being directed to uses of education. Still, I bet they'd still consider any dedicated offers.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.
Why do we stuff that is not there now, and will be there in the future, just like we saw? Double blind studies, proving precognition, but without our being aware of it.

Double blind studies showing things are seen, just not in the immediate proxity, but seen exactly as they are at that moment, just countries or continents away?
Pretty sure those ' studies ' haven't been validated. Otherwise, they'd have claimed the James Randi prize of over a million dollars or so. Last I checked, no one has cashed in yet.

https://web.randi.org/home/jref-status

* Seems that since Mr. Randi has retired and the challenge hasn't had any serious takers, the $ set aside is being directed to uses of education. Still, I bet they'd still consider any dedicated offers.

Seems this thread has drifted off topic from the OP.

I'm a bit disappointed that some folk I consider smart enough to know better insist upon keeping their heads firmly planted in the sand.

You prefer to have this scam artist do your verification process for you, so you won't be bothered with thought?

This scam artist Randi only ran his scam for 19 years before escaping. The rules for consideration with this scam are even removed, deleted, so they cannot be reviewed.

When Rosemary Smith used her mental powers to locate a downed Soviet Bomber across the ocean, the military was able to focus on the coordinates she gave and found it right where she said.
President Carter described what the process looked like when he explained how we found it.
I don't agree with everything Carter said, but I beleive him more than your scam artist.

My video-fu is not good.
Maybe somebody can find a video of a TV show from 1999.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remote-viewing-up-close/
Here is a description of the show. When I saw it on Prime Time CBS I was amazed they were showing it and wondered how they were going to get away with it. Despite the amazing success and accuracy on display, they were able to label it a failure.
Can somebody find a video of that?
If so, explain that.

The DVD of the film Suspect Zero has a bonus feature, a demonstration for the director of the film, so he can understand how to portray it on film. Wathc the feature. Then explain it to us.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:02 AM

James Randi is a debunker himself. He doesn't 'scam' anyone. OK, he did when he was a magician, and on occasion , to show how easy it is to scam others , but he'd always reveal the scam as a means of teaching everyone how NOT to be conned by folks who claim to bend spoons w/ their minds.

Or find downed Soviet planes.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:54 AM

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/01/18/us-air-force-successfu
lly-uses-human-with-out-of-body-abilities-to-locate-a-lost-plane-in-africa/

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/07/13/us-government-uses-rem
ote-viewing-parapsychology-to-locate-a-lost-spy-plane-in-africa/

http://www.templeoftheola.org/remote-viewing.html

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