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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Friday, October 11, 2019 9:36 PM
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Originally posted by second:
Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected?
Yup. Still no justice for Epstein or his clients.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Friday, October 11, 2019 11:45 PM
Quote:There is justice! Turns out, the president is not above the law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected?
Yup. Still no justice for Epstein or his clients.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
A federal appeals court held TODAY that Trump’s claims that he is immune to congressional oversight have no basis in law.
If the Supreme Court does not interfere with this decision, that means the House Oversight Committee will soon gain access to Trump’s financial records — including his tax forms.
The case is Trump v. Mazars USA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1trAO6IWcy-WZlVQJTzZFUz1551RIwe7w/view
www.documentcloud.org/documents/6467307-Trump-v-Mazars.html
The decision is 134 pages long, and took 3 months to write, but this is the only paragraph that counts: "Having considered the weighty interests at stake in this case, we conclude that the subpoena issued by the Committee to Mazars is valid and enforceable. We affirm the district court’s judgment in favor of the Oversight Committee and against the Trump Plaintiffs.
So ordered."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:01 AM
Double post...
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:09 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There is justice! Turns out, the president is not above the law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected?
Yup. Still no justice for Epstein or his clients.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
A federal appeals court held TODAY that Trump’s claims that he is immune to congressional oversight have no basis in law.
I knew about the news you linked in the rest of your post before my previous reply.
Slow on the uptake again today?
BTW...
Judge David S. Tatel - Nominated by Bill Clinton, October 7th, 1994
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_S._Tatel
Patricia Millett - Nominated by Barack Obama, December 10th, 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Millett
Dissenting opinion by Neomi Rao - Nomiated by Donald Trump, March 18th, 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomi_Rao
No sense in arguing the obvious bias of the verdict here.
Just asking you how you figure this is going to end with the current makeup of the Supreme Court when the bias leans the other way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of
_the_United_States#Current_justices_of_the_Supreme_Court
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:27 AM
Quote:Trump placed this particular person on this particular court to protect him from this particular subpoena. The dissenting opinion from the Trump judge was that Trump's tax returns stay secret until Trump is charged with tax evasion, but he can't be charged until tax returns are not secret and can be audited. The other two judges laughed at that Catch 22 nonsense from Trump's judge, the judge Trump owns. Trump has placed two of his judges on the Supreme Court. That might not be enough to protect Trump from the subpoena when this case goes to the Supreme Court.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dissenting opinion by Neomi Rao - Nomiated by Donald Trump, March 18th, 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomi_Rao
I forgot to mention that Trump promised while campaigning to make these records known to all Americans, but once the moment came to make them known, Trump decided to sue to keep them secret.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:34 AM
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's always interesting to go back and grade these things in the light of history.
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Originally posted by SECOND:
What grade to you give Trump for his stupid move in Syria this week? Impeachable grade stupidity?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Speaking of stupidity ... what a stupid thing to post. SLOPPY thinks that all fullness of 'history' can be known in mere hours.
SLOPPY is a deranged idiot.
Quote:You have no idea what was in that phone call. It might have been as simple as - Turkey is going in anyway. Get your troops out of the way (there were 50 left, I think) or we're going through them. And if your troops fight, we'll involve Russia. Good luck with that.
Originally posted by SECOND:
With one phone call, and given 3 days, Trump's go ahead to Turkey was followed by a war between Turkey and the Kurds in Syria. History has spoken and it said Trump's strategy is idiotic.
It'll be a long, long time before anyone knows ALL the relevant facts.
But that doesn't stop you from being a deranged idiot, does it SLOPPY?
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
Signy posted this elsewhere, it just took me a couple minutes to research this;
https://news.bitcoin.com/turkey-throws-another-wrench-into-the-usds-wo
rks-and-joins-russian-swift/
Turkey Throws Another Wrench Into the USD's Works and Joins Russian Swift
Let's see ... Turkey has Russia's defense system and is no longer reliant on buying US arms; and has joined the SWIFT alternative, blunting any sanctions efforts.
OOPS. They've slipped the US leash.
And to round out the info, so has Iran.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/22092019-have-moscow-and-tehran-essentia
lly-turned-away-from-us-dollar-oped/
“Russia and Iran will transfer payments using an alternative system to the internationally recognized SWIFT money transfer network, Governor of Iranian central bank, ..."
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:38 AM
It's always interesting to go back and grade these things in the light of history.
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Originally posted by second:
With one phone call, and given 3 days, Trump's go ahead to Turkey was followed by a war between Turkey and the Kurds in Syria. History has spoken and it said Trump's strategy is idiotic.
To keep a new war from starting, Trump only had to NOT give the President of Turkey what he wanted from Trump in that phone call. We will never know if Trump felt that Trump Towers Istanbul would go bankrupt if Trump did not give Turkey's President what he asked for -- which was to move American troops out of the way of Turkish troops so that the invasion of Syria could begin this week. That is exactly the kind of thing that would get him impeached.
Obviously, if Trump had done what he said he was going to do while campaigning, he would not own Trump Towers Istanbul today and he would not have to weigh which is more important to himself: making Trump money in Istanbul or starting a new war.
"Some Hard Truths About Turkey’s Invasion Of The Syrian Kurds"
www.forbes.com/sites/melikkaylan/2019/10/11/some-hard-truths-about-tur
keys-invasion-of-the-syrian-kurds/
"Turkish party: Seize Trump's hotel to protest sanctions"
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/2/turkish-party-seize-trumps-hot
el-protest-sanctions/
I am sure Trump is aware he could have lost a hotel this week if he did not cooperate with Turkey's War on Kurds. What is more important to Trump? A few thousand dead Kurd women and children? Or Trump's hotel in Istanbul? I think we know it is the hotel. I think he should be impeached for that, even though he will deny he let a war start because he loves money.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:44 AM
Quote:The relevant fact is that Trump had been threatened last year by Turkey to have his property taken away. Trump, out of selfishness or greed, did not sell that property so that Turkey could never threaten him or America, again. Turkey did it again. Trump's choice was to either move American troops out of the way so that Turkey can attack the Kurds or else this time Turkey will really take away Trump's property. Trump better abandon that property, fast, or it will happen again and Trump will once again have to decide if his money is more important than America.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It'll be a long, long time before anyone knows ALL the relevant facts.
But that doesn't stop you from being a deranged idiot, does it SLOPPY?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:50 AM
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:53 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It'll be a long, long time before anyone knows ALL the relevant facts.
But that doesn't stop you from being a deranged idiot, does it SLOPPY?
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
Signy posted this elsewhere, it just took me a couple minutes to research this;
https://news.bitcoin.com/turkey-throws-another-wrench-into-the-usds-wo
rks-and-joins-russian-swift/
Turkey Throws Another Wrench Into the USD's Works and Joins Russian Swift
Let's see ... Turkey has Russia's defense system and is no longer reliant on buying US arms; and has joined the SWIFT alternative, blunting any sanctions efforts.
OOPS. They've slipped the US leash.
And to round out the info, so has Iran.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/22092019-have-moscow-and-tehran-essentia
lly-turned-away-from-us-dollar-oped/
“Russia and Iran will transfer payments using an alternative system to the internationally recognized SWIFT money transfer network, Governor of Iranian central bank, ..."
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