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Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Friday, September 27, 2019 7:48 PM
Quote:In Federalist 65, Alexander Hamilton considers the problem of impeachment and the Senate. The process, the Constitution framer writes, is meant for offenses “denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
More anon, huh?
You know that's not true buddy.
So sad...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Political offenses are, by nature, politicized. They “agitate the passions of the whole community” and “divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused.” The danger, Hamilton says, is that the impeachment process will be decided “more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.” If that proves either the perception or the reality of impeachment, the process loses its legitimacy, and America loses critical protection against tyrants and criminals.
Everything, then, rests on the independence and authority of the body charged with impeachment. Hamilton admitted that there was no tribunal capable of “the most exact standard of perfection,” but the best possible hope lay with the Senate. He believed that no “other body would be likely to feel CONFIDENCE ENOUGH IN ITS OWN SITUATION, to preserve, unawed and uninfluenced, the necessary impartiality between an INDIVIDUAL accused, and the REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE.”
He was wrong about the Senate. He would have been right, if the Senators could work in secret, keeping their vote from being known to the voters back in their home states. Jurors in criminal trials are the perfect example -- if the jurors received the same punishment as the accused, the jurors won't punish, no matter how guilty the accused.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, September 27, 2019 7:56 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I want to go on record that this latest Trump skandl looks like another distraction.
But its so big, impeachment big, that I wonder wut it coud be distracting from.
Anybody keeping an eye on Fort Knox?
Trump is! Har har har...
Seriously though... I've been batting around this idea for a scifi story. Could be a short story or film, whatever, and it has aspects of presidential mass distraction in it.
Consider: lots of hand held camera work. We see a young couple driving around on a sunny summer day. We see them looking for a condo to move into and we're in the car with them as they have small talk conversations while they look at a few units. We see a montage of their efforts with a edits of interiors and exteriors and just basic shots of their day and back and forth convo. Nothing special, just 2 regular people living their lives. What some viewers might notice is the number of exteriors that have fungus on them. Larger than usual areas that our couple don't seem to notice - easy to miss really.
Cut to: New president being briefed on his first week in office. Solemn setting, big oval table with about 2 dozen very serious looking members of the staff and top representatives of the basic military branches all there. His briefing starts...
Cut to: family room somewhere, someone watching tv, flipping through channels, usual nonsense. Viewer stops on a basic public cable channel because a guy is yelling at the camera about cancer treatments. He says. "Have you people been watching?!? Have you noticed that Big Pharma has been relabeling their anti-fungel drugs as cancer treatments? > guy on couch laughs < "It's a sign! I'm telling you there's ..." *click* channel is changed to Married with Children...
Back to: "Mr. President, time for this week's threat assessment..." we hear the usual threats, many are of a human nature, man v. man type thing, bombs, terrorism, etc... and then, "Oh, and one thing our lab guys wanted me to pass on... it seems a little odd, and we're still defining it, but there's a new study on a new strain of air born fungul / virus we're looking at... probably nothing..."
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Friday, September 27, 2019 7:56 PM
Trump wants to execute the whistleblower and all that assisted him/her. Sick, just sick.
T 
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Friday, September 27, 2019 8:03 PM
T
The whistleblower complaint and the cover up: Who is complicit?
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Friday, September 27, 2019 8:16 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Trump wants to execute the whistleblower and all that assisted him/her. Sick, just sick.
T
That's really funny, because he's talking about himself.
C'mon dude. We all know that Trump was the whistleblower.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Friday, September 27, 2019 10:44 PM
Quote:Trump asked the Ukrainian President to do something about CrowdStrike, but it has always been in California. He asked about the DNC server, but it has always been in Washington, DC. And Trump has the story about Joe Biden as mixed up as CrowdStrike and the server. Indict Trump for being stupid! The details of how mixed up Trump's brain is are here:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's really funny, because he's talking about himself.
C'mon dude. We all know that Trump was the whistleblower.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/26/donald-trump-wants-ukraines-presid
ent-probe-conspiracy-theories-democrats/
You know what is stupider? Trump thinks the Whistleblower law is illegal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act
Trump's tweets are getting dumber:
The Ukraine scandal seems to be making Trump’s tweets even more unhinged.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/27/20886829/liddle-adam-schiff-
trump-tweet-hyphen-apostrophe
The article analyzes the differences between what Trump tweeted today and what he probably meant. His brain is unraveling, perhaps from either medication or lack of sleep.
You might ask, “How did we get here?” As is usually the case, the warning signs were there all along. Maybe we missed them. Worse yet, maybe we saw them and were powerless to stop. Either way, we’re screwed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I want to go on record that this latest Trump skandl looks like another distraction.
But its so big, impeachment big, that I wonder wut it coud be distracting from.
Anybody keeping an eye on Fort Knox?
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
T
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Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:41 AM
Quote:Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up. It is right, and it is a GOP President's right (but not a Democratic President's) to use Federal money in order to get cooperation from Ukraine to reelect Trump. What most GOP voters think is right is scandalous. Trump is merely following and is very conscious of what his voters will approve of. With them, his rating is going up and up, right now, today.
Originally posted by THG:
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
T
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:38 AM
Quote:Texas Republican voters do not think Trump fucked up. It is right, and it is a GOP President's right (but not a Democratic President's) to use Federal money in order to get cooperation from Ukraine to reelect Trump. What most GOP voters think is right is scandalous. Trump is merely following and is very conscious of what his voters will approve of. With them, his rating is going up and up, right now, today.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Bet not JO. Still, this is a major fuck up by Trump. Fact, Trump is still colluding and threatening foreign governments in an attempt to influence "sully" our elections. Key word being STILL.
T
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
T
New Polling Shows Where The Country Stands On Impeachment
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Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:58 AM
Quote:I think most of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 don't care about facts, and never will, which kind of explains how their lives get into binds and blind alleys. It is literally, not metaphorically, impossible to get them to understand how Trump is transferring Federal money into his own pocket. These are the same people who get screwed over time after time in their personal financial decisions and by their the bosses and in their dealings with landlords, etc. You'd never be able to get those kind of people to pay intelligent attention to what is being done to rip them off. They know they are being screwed; they can't grasp what to do about it; they hope Trump will help; they are so very wrong about him:
Originally posted by THG:
I believe differently second. I think most are still unaware of the facts.
T
"The Zelensky Call shines a light on Trump’s financial corruption"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/27/20886789/trump-zelensky-hote
l-call-transcript
We can only hope that the next election, it comes up Democrat, but Republicans win that coin toss 50% of the time.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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