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Jubal Early and Inara

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:

Everyone assumes it's a suicide kit, even though Joss explicitly stated it's not. Perhaps it was some kind of medical treatment (innoculation or somesuch) for the baby. And now that the reavers are here, she is reflecting on the pointlessness of caring for an unborn baby who's going to by slain by reavers.



I don't believe anyone thinks it is a suicide kit anymore.
However no one has come up with a clear theory of what it is...

Your theory seems to be that she is currently pregnant...which is an interesting one.
How long had she been on board? I thought she had been there for months, so the baby would have started showing long before...wouldn't it?

Or maybe the 'kit' is some kind of thing designed to slow down the development of the baby until she could decide where or when she wants to give birth.

But Joss said something after Ats that there would be no more babies...
so I was kind of thinking that even Zoe wouldn't be having one (much less Inara).

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:34 PM

Having a baby must be a touchy subject for a Companion. Presumably they're not allowed to have babies when they're sleeping with rich and important men - imagine the chaos that would ensue if a Companion's child claimed rights to inheritance! In that sense, Purplebelly isn't that far off, oddly enough. Inara implied in Heart of Gold that she didn't want to be tied down. But maybe Jubal Early picked up on her desire to have the best of both worlds - freedom and power as a Companion, but also a relationship with Mal and a family. In that case, Jubal's comments are manipulative and hurtful, which is exactly how he dealt with the other crewmembers.

Julia

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
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Everyone assumes it's a suicide kit ...

I see you're not reading my stuff - probably a defense mechanism



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Originally posted by Embers:
I don't believe anyone thinks it is a suicide kit anymore.



Just to set the record straight...

What I meant was that the folk I know who see this episode for the first time all seem to jump to the "suicide kit" conclusion. I did, my wife did, as did another Browncoat I converted. It's only after watching the ep with commentary that you discover that it's not. Hence the wild speculations.

Another record-striaght-setting:

I actually don't have a theory wrt why Jubal said what he did. I certainly don't think Inara's pregnant because 1) the Companions are sure to have some sort of fool proof contraceptive, and 2) if you assume that she had just conceived when the syringe makes its appearance, she'd be something like 4-6 months along by the time OiS rolled around. The only convincing thing that I can come up with is that Jubal knows that Inara wants children, so he hangs that over her head to guarantee her compliance (sort of like he did with Simon by hanging Kaylee over his head).

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:42 AM

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How long had she been on board? I thought she had been there for months, so the baby would have started showing long before...wouldn't it?

Or maybe the 'kit' is some kind of thing designed to slow down the development of the baby until she could decide where or when she wants to give birth.

But Joss said something after Ats that there would be no more babies...
so I was kind of thinking that even Zoe wouldn't be having one (much less Inara).



As I recall from Bushwhacked, Inara had been on 'Serenity' for 8 months. I find the whole idea that she's currently preggers to be far fetched. Seems she could have any fertilized egg removed and put into some sort of frozen test tube thingy, instead of carrying it around and supressing its growth w/ some serum.

As for Jubal, it's clear that he does have unique powers of observation, if nothing else. Per his comments to Inara.. Man is stronger by far than woman. But only woman can create a child.
That seem right to you?
After hitting Inara, he reiterates the point that man IS stronger....as an added emphasis that she get his meaning. Maybe somehow Jubal picks up on the fact that Inara CAN'T have kids.... either by Guild Law or some other reason..and that deep down inside, this causes great conflict w/ her. Possibly had something to do w/ why she left the House. It might also explain why Inara snapped at Mal as he comments about " a parcel of critters underfoot " .

Just my 2 cents.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:58 AM

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It might also explain why Inara snapped at Mal as he comments about " a parcel of critters underfoot " .



Now that it's been mentioned twice, would someone mind finding out what exactly Inara said when she snapped at Mal? As much as I'd love to rewatch the ep, I don't have my DVD's with me. Thanks!

Julia

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:12 AM

Hmmmm........
How many months did they say pass between OiS and the BDM? 8 months?

So if she were only 1 month (not showing) ....the father might be....

A) Atherton Wing From Shindig?
B) Magistrate Higgin's Son from Jaynestown?


Maybe she finds out in Ariel....

Nah. Couldn't be. That would make things complicated between Mal and Inara. Joss doesn't make relationships complicated.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:23 AM

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Originally posted by pingjing:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

It might also explain why Inara snapped at Mal as he comments about " a parcel of critters underfoot " .



Now that it's been mentioned twice, would someone mind finding out what exactly Inara said when she snapped at Mal? As much as I'd love to rewatch the ep, I don't have my DVD's with me. Thanks!

Julia



W/ out checking the source, I recall her saying something about wishing him and (YoSaffBridge) 100's of fat children. hee hee.

p.s. Ok, so I checked the source.

Inara : Yes. Great. I wish you hundreds of
fat children.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:35 AM

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Originally posted by Jadehand:
Hmmmm........
How many months did they say pass between OiS and the BDM? 8 months?

So if she were only 1 month (not showing) ....the father might be....

A) Atherton Wing From Shindig?
B) Magistrate Higgin's Son from Jaynestown?


Maybe she finds out in Ariel....

Nah. Couldn't be. That would make things complicated between Mal and Inara. Joss doesn't make relationships complicated.




Well, as was mentioned before, Joss isn't hip for the whole baby thing again, per Angel ( I suppose) It's not that a Companion wouldn't know about the many fine arts of protection, from all sorts of things. I mean, today , we have a Day After pill, so one can imagine how easy contraception will be in 500 yrs.

Well, I'm out of ideas at the moment.



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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:28 AM

Thanks, Auraptor. Now that I have the quote, I can give my $.02 I always took her comment to mean that she was jealous. But maybe Joss did throw it in there as a hint...

(not that she's pregnant, but that she has conflicting feelings about it.)

Julia

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Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:17 AM

Pregnancy is considered gross by elite members of society on the Core planets; in vitro gestation is the norm. Companions and doctors do not have intimate practical knowledge of it (Heart of Gold). Young people find it amusing, the subject of jokes (deleted scene Our Mrs Reynolds). Small families and trans-generation marriage limit the dilution of the wealth and power of the great Families. Inara's reaction to Reynolds' proletarian imagination is one of cultural distaste.

Only Purplebelly believes this

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