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Elections 2020, Hey Jack, I Was Right. Trump And The Republicans Lost Big Time

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Democrats have a chance in a heavily Trump district in North Carolina

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/north-carolina-special-electio
n-analysis/index.html


We'll know in a few hours folks.

T





McCready raised nearly 5 million, compared to Bishop's nearly 2 million.

Sounds odd, for a heavly Republican district, doesn't it?

It does.

Here's a list of itemized contributions by the FEC, which requires any donations over $200 to be recorded and made public.

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/?committee_id=C00641381&two_year
_transaction_period=2020&data_type=processed




There's 30 pages there to pour through.

Do me a favor and count them up and tell me how much of it actually came from residents of NC.

Doesn't look like much of it did.



Anybody voting for this sellout isn't going to have their district represented when he's in the pockets of so many people that don't even come from North Carolina.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:58 AM

Hmmmmmmmm...

Top three donations of nearly $120,000 to his candidacy were from "Prism Communications", based out of D.C.

What is Prism Communications, you ask?

https://www.prismcommunications.com/

From their About Page:

Quote:


At Prism Communications, we’re about one thing: winning.

Not winning awards. Not winning praise from pundits. Winning campaigns. YOUR campaign.

To get there, we put you first. We become a full partner in your campaign: from strategic planning to earned media to paid advertising, we help you tell your story and move voters.

We recognize that every candidate and every campaign are different. So we work with you to create a message and branding that reflect what you’re about. Then we build an integrated communications plan that marries traditional broadcast and cable advertising with online ads and video to deliver that message.

Our partners have years of experience in campaign management, strategy, and advertising, and we’ve assembled the top talent in the business to oversee our in-house production operation. All for one reason: to help you win.



Well...

I would think that from that mission statement, their plan is to make money by helping you run your campaign. But $120,000 donated to this guy's campaign would paint a very different picture, wouldn't it?

Unless.......

Somebody else with a lot of money wanted to pay Prism to handle his campaign and funnel money to him without having their name attached to the money.

Seems shady as fuck to me and should be investigated.


It also seems as if a majority of the largest donations were from D.C. as well as democrat strongholds of CA, IL and NY.



Even if there is no investigation, it's obvious that this Prism has been doing overtime handling this single election out of season when there's nearly nothing else to focus on. So much money pouring in from outside sources that shouldn't much care about a single seat in a single district other than a Democrat win would push a narrative that some would like to continue on with.



Humorously, there is also another special election in the 3rd district of NC tonight and nobody is talking about it.

https://www.fec.gov/data/elections/house/NC/03/2020/

The Republican guy there only raised $900,000 vs the Democrat raising less than half of that at $430,000.

Allen himself made $230,000 in personal money of his $430,000 total contributions to his own campaign fund. Doesn't look like Prism Communications is involved at all in that campaign. Quite a bit of the donations came from states outside of NC in this case as well, but nowhere near the scale of the 9th District donations.



I bet if Democrats pull off the tossup in District 9 but fail miserably in District 3 at the same time you're never going to hear about District 3 in the MSM.

Ask me how I know.


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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:53 AM

Republican Greg Murphy declared winner of 3rd District of NC with only 61% of precincts reporting.

You won't hear anything about this race tomorrow.


Meanwhile, with (only) 28% of precincts reporting in the 9th District (dragging this out all night long like they always do for ad revenue), Washington Post says Dem candidate leads 50.9% to 48.4%.

[all updates are from WaPo] https://www.washingtonpost.com/election-results/north-carolina/?noredi
rect=on



UPDATE: (12 minutes after original post)

46% of precincts reporting have Dem candidate leading 49.8% to 49.5%.



UPDATE 2: (17 minutes after original post)

55% of precincts reporting have GOP candidate leading 49.9% to 49.5%.

(WaPo page is incorrectly saying that Dem candidate is still leading when the percentages currently show otherwise)


UPDATE 3: (25 minutes after original post)

58% of precincts reporting have GOP candidate leading 50% to 49.3%.

(With GOP candidate slightly increasing the lead as votes come in, WaPo page still incorrectly stating that Dem candidate is leading. I know they both have the same first name guys, how about you do your damn jobs?)


UPDATE 4: (30 minutes after original post)

59% of precincts reporting have GOP candidate leading 50.1% to 49.3%.

(Lead still slightly widening for GOP candidate, but WaPo can't seem to get the right "Dan" listed as the leader)




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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:27 AM

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/north-carolina-special-election
-september-2019/index.html


9th District
63%

R 50.3
D 49.2

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:42 AM

UPDATE 5:

With 79% of precincts reporting GOP Dan leading Dem Dan 50.4% to 48.9%.

Whoever fell asleep at the wheel for the last half hour at WaPo was fired and they finally acknowledged that GOP Dan is in the lead.


UPDATE 6:

88% of precincts reporting GOP Dan leads Dem Dan 50.6% to 48.7%.

Total vote spread is right around 3,250 votes.

Unless the Dems pull off a miracle in the last 12% of precincts reporting, the spread will likely be too much to even demand a recall and this should be wrapped up tonight.


Somebody at Prism Communications is probably going to be fired.

https://www.prismcommunications.com/


Donations from Prism Communications on FEC website:

PRISM COMMUNICATIONS MCCREADY FOR CONGRESS DC 03/28/2019 $92,024.27
PRISM COMMUNICATIONS MCCREADY FOR CONGRESS DC 04/24/2019 $20,781.06
PRISM COMMUNICATIONS MCCREADY FOR CONGRESS DC 03/30/2019 $5,986.00

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/?committee_id=C00641381&two_year
_transaction_period=2020&data_type=processed



Once again, Prism Communications is a firm that gets paid to help somebody win their election. So somebody paid them quite a bit of money to help Dem Dan win the 9th District tonight and to anonymously funnel well over $100k into his campaign.

They should be investigated. States should also pass laws that bar any campaign contributions for state legislature to come from out of state as well.


UPDATE 7:

92% of precincts reporting have GOP Dan up 50.7% to 48.6% with a vote spread of over 3,800 votes.

Somebody better check in on Rachel Maddow.




UPDATE 8:

96% of precincts reporting have GOP Dan up 50.6% to 48.7% with a vote spread of over 3,600.

A slight increase and glimmer of hope for people who have no stake in this but have nothing better to do with their lives but wish on a star that North Carolina sticks it to Trump tonight?

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

We'll know in a few hours folks.





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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:13 AM

.... TWO MINUTES LATER....

Bummer

GOP Dan declared the winner with 95% of districts reporting at 50.6% to 48.7%.

92,272 votes to 88,839 votes.



Seriously. Don't anybody lose any sleep over any of this. Nobody here (I believe) is from NC and this doesn't actually mean anything.

Everybody and MSNBC, CNN and Fox News are thrilled either way. They made a lot of money tonight over nothing.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:16 AM

Seriously though.

Somebody ought to investigate Prism Communications, where the money for their $120k in donations came from and all states should pass laws to bar any outside money coming in from other states for these elections in the future.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:16 AM

And the NYT spin machine starts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/politics/north-carolina-special-
election.html


Unable to post the headline they wanted to with a victory, here's their backup plan.

Quote:

Mr. Bishop’s narrow victory over Dan McCready in a conservative district demonstrated warning signs for President Trump in 2020.


No. No it doesn't.


McCready had help from a D.C. based campaign firm and raked in millions of dollars from out of state campaign contributions, "raised" 2 1/2 times as much money as the GOP candidate, outspent the GOP candidate nearly 3 to 1 and still couldn't win. The spread of GOP votes vs Democrat votes were at least 5 times greater than they were in the 2018 election that was in question and lead to this special election.

And in the mean time, the 3rd district race in NC tonight was a blowout.

Quit posting bullshit, NYT.



Oh, and BTW... Dem Dan is sitting on nearly half a million dollars of unspent campaign contributions. Somebody better make sure he doesn't walk away with that money.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Seriously though.

Somebody ought to investigate Prism Communications, where the money for their $120k in donations came from and all states should pass laws to bar any outside money coming in from other states for these elections in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Many decades ago, when dems still wore a faint Kennedy glow, I remember getting letters from various out-of-state campaigns ... this (name the democrat) is in a tight race in (name the state) and needs your contribution to win.

Except for being computerized, statistics-run, and contracted-out, I'm not sure that Prism is any different from decades ago.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Seriously though.

Somebody ought to investigate Prism Communications, where the money for their $120k in donations came from and all states should pass laws to bar any outside money coming in from other states for these elections in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Many decades ago, when dems still wore a faint Kennedy glow, I remember getting letters from various out-of-state campaigns ... this (name the democrat) is in a tight race in (name the state) and needs your contribution to win.

Except for being computerized, statistics-run, and contracted-out, I'm not sure that Prism is any different from decades ago.



The practice should have been outlawed decades ago even if it was much smaller scale. We're talking big money here. This is how AOC and Omar got in. They didn't get any money from people they were going to represent when they were elected either.

This particular race is a HUGE example of the problem though. It's completely impossible to deny the facts here.


First, as nearly everyone in the media likes to point out, this is a heavy Republican district. Yet, at the same time GOP dan only raised $1,954,334.65 cmpared to DEM Dan's $4,950,881.11.

https://www.fec.gov/data/elections/house/NC/09/2020/

Second, GOP Dan put up $250,000 of his own money for his campaign (about 1/8th of the money he raised). Dem Dan didn't put up a single cent of his money. He didn't have to. He's still got nearly 1/2 a million unspent bucks out of that $5Million he "raised".

Third, ALL candidates get money from outside interests and this certainly isn't a new phenomenon. PACs are the worst. GOP Dan got a majority of his money from "Club For Growth PAC". After the quarter of a million dollars he put up himself, the first 4 1/4 pages of 30 contributions are from this PAC in amounts ranging from $17,855.00 to $5,000. Most of his money raised was from this single PAC based in DC. You have to go halfway down the 5th page beyond this PACs contributions to even find the first NC state contribution of $6,288.10 from "Queen City Catering", and nearly at the bottom of the 6th page to find the second by a private citizen of $2,800.

(I'm assuming the maximum an individual can give in 2019 has been increased to $2,800 since there are a lot of those at this point, even though a Google Search of it has the FEC stating that limit is only $2,700.)

At this point, for GOP Dan, many of the contributions are from NC, but there are still a lot from out of state. Most of these $2,800 donations for Dem Dan are out of state however, and there were a great deal more of them to make up the $5 million Dem Dan raised.

I was going to put a list up, but you can just check out the site and look at the details. There's 10,041 donations on record for Dem Dan and 1,809 donations on record for GOP Dan. At only 30 results per page I could be cutting and pasting this all week and still not be done.




Long story short, my point is...

How can you expect your elected government officials to work for the people they're supposed to represent when the people who funded their way into office are nearly all outside interests.


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