Hong Kong, and the M$M
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Monday, December 1, 2025 18:02
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This is an entirely different view of what's going on in Hong Kong. I've underlined what I think are the most salient points because it's pretty long
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House Niggers Mutiny
Israel Shamir • August 22, 2019
Slavery had some good aspects for those chaps who had it rather good. A colonial setup is the next best thing to slavery, and it also holds its attraction for people who knew how to place themselves just below the sahibs and above the run-of-the-mill natives. The Hong Kong revolt is the mutiny of wannabe house niggers who feel that the gap between them and the natives is rapidly vanishing.
Once, a HK resident was head and shoulders above the miserable mainland coolies; he spoke English, he had smart devices, he had his place in the tentacle sucking wealth out of the mainland, and some of that wealth stuck to his sweaty hands. But now he has no advantage compared to the people of Shanghai or Beijing. There is huge swelling of wealth in the big cities of Red China. The Chinese dress well, travel abroad, and they do not need HK mediation for dealing with the West. Beijing had offered HK a fair deal of [relative] equality; nothing would be taken from them, but the shrinking gap is not only unavoidable, but desirable, too.
However, HK had been the imperial bridgehead in China for too long. Its people were complicit, nay, willing partners in every Western crime against China, beginning with dumping opium and sucking out Chinese wealth. Millions of opium addicts, of ruined families and households nearly destroyed the Middle Kingdom, and each of them added to HK prosperity. The blood, sweat and labour of all China abundantly supplied the island. HK was the first of the Treaty Ports, and the last to return home. Its populace was not thoroughly detoxed; they weren’t ideologically prepared for a new life as equals.
Chairman Mao harboured hard suspicions against comprador cities, the cities and the people who prospered due to their collaboration with the imperialist enemy. He cleansed them with communist and patriotic re-education; recalcitrant compradors were sent to help peasants in far-away villages in order to reconnect with the people. Mao’s successors had a strong if misplaced belief in Chinese nationalism as a universal remedy; they thought the Chinese of HK, Macau and Taiwan would join them the moment the colonial yoke failed. This was an over-optimistic assessment. The imperialist forces didn’t give up on their former house slaves, and the moment they needed to activate them against independent China they knew where to look.
Their time came as the trade conflict between the US and China warmed up. The secret government of the West aka Deep State came to the conclusion that China is getting way too big for its boots. It is not satisfied with making cheap gadgets for Walmart customers. It is producing state-of-art devices that compete with American goods and, what’s worse, their devices are not accessible for NSA surveillance. The Chinese company Huawei came under attack; sanctions and custom duties followed in train. When the Yuan eased under the strain, the Chinese were accused of manipulating their currency. It is a strong charge: when Japan was attacked by the West in the 1990s and the Yen had eased as expected, this claim forced Tokyo to keep the Yen high and take Japan into a twenty-year-long slump. But China did not retreat.
Then the supreme power unleashed its well-practiced weapon: they turned to foment unrest in China and gave it a lot of space in the media. At first, they played up the fate of the Uygur Islamists, but it had little success. The Uygur are not numerous, they are not even a majority in their traditional area; their influence in China is limited. Despite headlines in the liberal Western media proclaiming that millions of Uygur are locked up in concentration camps, the impact was nil. No important Muslim state took up this cause.
The anniversary of Tiananmen came (in beginning of June) and went without a hitch. For good reason: thNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would not worry overmuch for China. The Chinese leaders knew how to deal with Tiananmen, they knew how to deal with minority unrest, without unnecessary cruelty and without hesitation and prevarication. They weren’t dilly-dallying when the US tried to send to HK its warships, but flatly denied them the pleasure. They will overcome.
Ahh, Sig. Ever the champion for Oppressors everywhere.

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

On August 11, 2019 Signym asked "What have Nazis DONE TO ANYONE?" That question wins first place for the Dumbest Question Ever Asked On The Internet.
Since 6ix, Sig, and JSF insist on calling me names in every post, I will save time by letting any visitors know they are incompetent, fascist, and brain dead by autoposting this. Ye have been warned.
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Ahh, Sig. Ever the champion for Oppressors everywhere.
Once an elitist, always an elitist!Cripes - even that first sentence grammar is mangled:
"Slavery had some good aspects for those chaps who had it rather good." Huh? That's your lead in?
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I hope you two realize that the statement wasn't Signy's own opinion - right?
That it was part of a much-longer unedited quote that YOU took out of context and attributed to her POV, right?
And that she posted the whole thing to present a heretofore unseen POV for informational purposes, right?
And that rather than randomly edit to distort the information like YOU ALL DO (as well as SECOND) she posted the entire thing, including that statement, right?
Is that reality beyond your ken?
Or are you just being your usual trolling selves?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I hope you two realize that the statement wasn't Signy's own opinion - right?
That it was part of a much-longer unedited quote that YOU took out of context and attributed to her POV, right?
And that she posted the whole thing to present a heretofore unseen POV for informational purposes, right?
And that rather than randomly edit to distort the information like YOU ALL DO (as well as SECOND) she posted the entire thing, including that statement, right?
Is that reality beyond your ken?
She, and you, have made your positions preeettty clear.
We get it, you both support China here... under the guise of "noninterference" with the purposes of deriding Capitalism. We ALSO get that you have very little understanding of how humanity ACTUALLY works. There is no magic wand that is ever going to make Communism work because people aren't ever going to want to work for anything BUT THEIR OWN GOALS. HOW INCREDIBLY DENSE DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NOT GET THAT???
Posting the whole article is a waste of people's time and attention span. Get to the MAIN point or go fiddle with yourself.
Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

On August 11, 2019 Signym asked "What have Nazis DONE TO ANYONE?" That question wins first place for the Dumbest Question Ever Asked On The Internet.
Since 6ix, Sig, and JSF insist on calling me names in every post, I will save time by letting any visitors know they are incompetent, fascist, and brain dead by autoposting this. Ye have been warned.
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Quote:Well, YOU have certainly made your position pretty clear! It's all about eradicating and killing and frying and nuking millions ... billions ... down the the last hundred as I recall your post (before you realized how crazed that sounded, and erased it!)
She, and you, have made your positions preeettty clear.
Quote:Nope! I support noninterference under the guise of noninterference!
We get it, you both support China here... under the guise of "noninterference"
If a nation elects a leader and nationalizes its copper mines and uses the proceeds to support the population ... don't interfere
If a nation elects a leader and nationalizes its oil wells and uses the wealth to reduce poverty ... don't interfere
If a military leader nationalizes the tantalum mines and stuffs his pockets with the proceeds ... don't interfere
If a nation beheads apostate clerics, or women who drive cars ... don't interfere
We have absolutely no business "fixing" other leaders and other nations with violence, or inciting "regime change" operations with provocateurs and snipers. Partly because in every single case that I can think of, NONE of our "interventions" were ever for the good of the people but had to do with transnational profits, banking, and commodity supplies. Which is why we fucked up just about every nation we ever "helped". But mostly because it's part of my principles. We wouldn't want other nations monkeying around in our domestic affairs, and we shouldn't do it to anyone else.
If we have a problem with a particular nation, we should just tariff their goods until they wise up and fix their internal corruption, and then we can do normal business with them again.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Anybody notice that Wishy and Geebers are going out of their way to be all provocative and trollish lately?
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Quote:In my experience, WISHY has never been anything but a troll. Supposedly in the past she and SIX used to exchange home renovation tips, but I never saw those posts back from when she was normal.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Anybody notice that Wishy and Geebers are going out of their way to be all provocative and trollish lately?
Pretty much same with CC/G. He posts a few reasonable posts here and there ... more often than WISHY does ... but still, mostly just attacks other people - usually by lying about their POV. So IMHO CC is about 85% troll, and has been for a long time. Nothing has changed.
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About the article: I posted it because it was different, not because I agree with everything it says. I posted it because if people only read what they agree with, then they will NEVER learn anything new.
My own opinion about what's going on in Hong Kong is that the protests are propelled by economics: Shenzen has taken Hong Kong's place as the shipping intermediary between mainland China and the west. Mainland China has become wealthy, and hs (unfortunately) created its own set of oligarchs who're buying up properties in Hong Kong, or using Hong Kong as a transit point to spirit their money out of China, making Hong Kong even less affordable for its residents than before. The young are most affected since they haven't had a chance to build up assets, and are now unlikely able to do so, leading to a whole lot of dissatisfied young people!
I didn't know that Hong Kong had extradition treaties with the USA and Britain but not mainland China, which is a ridiculous situation. That issue (the creation of an extradition treaty with China) was "the" point that started the riots/protests, which seem to be heavily laced with provocateurs. As in Ukraine, USA and British embassy personnel are providing support, and the western media is providing political cover. As in Ukraine, you can tell that this is a "regime change" operation by the moving goalposts of the rioters, who no longer care about the extradition issue (if they ever did) but now have a whole new series of demands ("Make Hong Kong Great Britain Again", as if it ever was!)
The protesters have been violent. At one point they took over an international airport terminal, took and beat hostages, and prevented medical care from being given. They are trying to force the government into extreme reaction, which they will then use as further cause for even more violence. If the violence doesn't reach a fever pitch, foreign provocateurs (snipers, bombers) may be brought in.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nope! I support noninterference under the guise of noninterference!
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If we have a problem with a particular nation, we should just tariff their goods until they wise up and fix their internal corruption, and then we can do normal business with them again.
That's not really non-interference, is it? I mean, attempting to use pain compliance by crippling their economy is hardly hands off. Try again.
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What we do now, CC, is that not only do WE sanction a nations economy, we insist that everyone else do too. And we not only sanction their exports we also sanction tower imports or prevent oil from entering Syria.
I'm just proposing our singular act of tariff - not some internationally organized embargo.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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