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Trump's Trade Wars - another disaster

POSTED BY: captaincrunch
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Monday, August 19, 2019 4:36 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Americans overwhelmingly support free trade as concern grows about Trump's economy: NBC/WSJ poll

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/americans-overwhelmingly-suppo
rt-free-trade-as-concern-grows-about-trumps-economy-nbc-wsj-poll/ar-AAFYsl3?ocid=spartandhp


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lol 9 out of 10 Americans couldn't even give you a remedial explanation of what free trade is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 19, 2019 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Americans overwhelmingly support free trade as concern grows about Trump's economy: NBC/WSJ poll

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/americans-overwhelmingly-suppo
rt-free-trade-as-concern-grows-about-trumps-economy-nbc-wsj-poll/ar-AAFYsl3?ocid=spartandhp


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Also, from the article itself:

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Public sentiment about Trump's re-election campaign remains similarly stable. Just 40% of Americans say they plan to vote for him in 2020, up two points from last December. The proportion planning to vote against him stayed at 52%.


This is why the Democrats lose.

It's all about Trump.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 19, 2019 5:48 AM

It IS all about Trump, and Trump made sure of it by getting headlines on every issue, forcing the Dems to be in a position to respond and catch up. And the Dems played along by being stuck on / Mueller / Russia / impeachment / (pivoting to / obstruction / Epstein / corruption / as things played out) all this time. When - as I've pointed out more than once - they SHOULD have been developing and staking claims on issues vital to Americans / voters of their own. Sigh.

Anyway, in the news, a big deal about a possible recession on its way. That would be a problem for Trump if it happens. (OTOH he's already staked a claim to that one too, saying it would be because of the Fed raising the rates too much, and not lowering them when he said they should. And whether or not it would be cause and effect, he would be right about the timing.

)

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Monday, August 19, 2019 6:03 AM

The candidates themselves know this. Liberal elites/Hollywood elites know this.

They never talk about the election in terms of voting for somebody who's going to do things. The "Hope and Change" era of Democrats is dead. They've even abandoned the "we're not Trump" message and replaced it with "We must beat Trump by any means necessary".

They are the ones full of hate. They are the ones full of fear. They are the ones who see race and sex in every single issue under the sun and throw it in everybody's face whenever they get the chance, which is always because of smart phones.

They point out some pilled up psychopath from time to time that is usually, allegedly, somebody on the right, all the while ignoring how most everybody else on the right and in the middle is sane and tries to maintain a positive attitude about things, while also ignoring just how miserable and depressed and insane and just all around a chore to even be around they have become in the last 2 1/2 years.


Just look at the thread title history in here in the last 2 years. I guaranty you that 90% of it is negative shit, and 90% of that negative shit is from the raging lefties here.


And then, what's inside the threads himself. Marcos can't say a single sentence that isn't dripping with hatred. Second constantly talking about assassination and murdering people. Wishy deciding who she doesn't like and who deserves to die, while gleefully using machine gun emoticons and cackling like the hag troll she is... just recently talking about how Mexicans are annoying and throwing the n word around like she's entitled to because she's a raging virtue signaller with a vagina.


Got news for you honeybunch. You aren't entitled.

Exhibit A: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sarah-silverman-fired-movie-blackface_n
_5d514735e4b0820e0af81c30


Exhibit B: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/15/white-professor-investig
ated-quoting-james-baldwin-use-of-n-word-laurie-sheck




And please. Don't embarrass yourself again by bringing up anything I said while I was drunk 24/7. I've already apologized for my behavior years ago and I do not stand by anything that I said back then. I also never deleted any of it either because it's a reminder of how bad I could actually get if I ever stray from the path again.

The difference is that YOU are shameless and, so you claim, you believe everything you post here and, so you claim, you do so with a sober mind.



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Monday, August 19, 2019 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second constantly talking about assassination and murdering people.

Let’s be honest. I won't be killing anybody. But Trump can't say that. He has been directing drone strikes on civilians starting his first week.
TRUMP'S SYRIA STRIKES WERE 'AFTER-DINNER ENTERTAINMENT' AT MAR-A-LAGO
www.newsweek.com/trumps-cruise-missile-strikes-syria-were-mar-lago-aft
er-dinner-entertainment-593110

President Trump Cancels Rule Requiring U.S. to Report Civilians Killed in Drone Strikes
https://time.com/5546366/trump-cancels-drone-strike-rule/
During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes -- 7 March 2019
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

Most of the time presidents don’t deserve a whole lot of credit or blame for the economy. There are modest exceptions here and there, but the economy is mostly outside their control.

And then you have Donald Trump. He supported a bad tax bill. He ginned up a trade war. He threw oil markets into turmoil by abrogating the Iran treaty. And now the yield curve has inverted, and financial markets are in a tizzy.

I can’t predict the future any better than anyone else, but if Trump ends up losing in 2020 because the economy went sour, he’ll deserve it. It’s too bad all the rest of us have to pay the price too.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 19, 2019 9:21 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second constantly talking about assassination and murdering people.

Let’s be honest. I won't be killing anybody.



We have no reason to believe this anymore than we have any reason to believe that you run a successful business or that you're rich. You say both of them all the time.

So okay, whatever. Don't care if you're rich or not. I hope you don't murder or assassinate anyone.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 19, 2019 9:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We have no reason to believe this anymore than we have any reason to believe that you run a successful business or that you're rich. You say both of them all the time.

So okay, whatever. Don't care if you're rich or not. I hope you don't murder or assassinate anyone.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, get back on the subject of Trump's Trade War. He is losing it, but I'm assuming you believe the Federal Reserve, even if you can't stop calling me a liar:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=mX9o


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 19, 2019 10:04 AM

First off, I will talk about whatever I want to, in any thread that I want to. A thread's title has never stopped any of you from going off topic before. For instance, I don't remember any thread titles in the history of the RWED such as "My name is Second and I'm a millionaire rancher", or "My name is Second and here's why the President should die", or "My name is Second and I think everybody making minimum wage should kill their boss and take everything they own", but you still manage to fit at least one of those into a thread on a daily basis.

Second, Second, I've never said I was a fan of Trump's economic policies and I think that is his one weakness. Then again, I've never seen a politician of any level let alone a President do it right since I've been old enough to pay attention.



What I think you fail to understand however, is that whether or not the economy is doing well in 2020, Trump is going to win on that point by sheer virtue of the Democrat's current platform of reparations, freebies for everybody and open borders leading to further freebies for people who weren't even living here before the election.

One might even argue that the worse the economy gets, the better Trump's chances are for re-election if we're only talking about the economy being a factor, which it very well might be if your fantasy of the US economy taking a nosedive comes to fruition in the next year.

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Monday, August 19, 2019 7:45 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
First off, I will talk about whatever I want to, in any thread that I want to. A thread's title has never stopped any of you from going off topic before. For instance, I don't remember any thread titles in the history of the RWED such as "My name is Second and I'm a millionaire rancher", or "My name is Second and here's why the President should die", or "My name is Second and I think everybody making minimum wage should kill their boss and take everything they own", but you still manage to fit at least one of those into a thread on a daily basis.

Second, Second, I've never said I was a fan of Trump's economic policies and I think that is his one weakness. Then again, I've never seen a politician of any level let alone a President do it right since I've been old enough to pay attention.



What I think you fail to understand however, is that whether or not the economy is doing well in 2020, Trump is going to win on that point by sheer virtue of the Democrat's current platform of reparations, freebies for everybody and open borders leading to further freebies for people who weren't even living here before the election.

One might even argue that the worse the economy gets, the better Trump's chances are for re-election if we're only talking about the economy being a factor, which it very well might be if your fantasy of the US economy taking a nosedive comes to fruition in the next year.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nate Silver of https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1158488079453347846 thinks that Trump’s chances are about 50-50. The more I think about it, however, the slightly more bearish I get on Trump’s chances. So right now I’d say there’s more like a 45 percent chance of Trump winning reelection.

Why? Three reasons:

1) The economy will not get any better for Trump and probably will get worse.

2) Trump cannot count on Democratic apathy in 2020.

3) Democrats in 2020 are not Republicans in 2016. Right-wing commentators are desperately trying to pump up Democratic presidential candidates who might roil the party, such as Marianne Williamson or Tulsi Gabbard. It’s not easy to dismiss the possibility, as four years ago a fringe candidate managed to win the GOP nomination. But as for actual polling, Williamson (and Gabbard) remain close to zero.

So, to sum up: Trump’s economy looks weaker than it did three months ago, and the trend line is worrisome for his reelection campaign. Democrats seem both energized and pragmatic.

www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/07/why-i-think-chances-donald-t
rumps-re-election-are-getting-worse
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 19, 2019 8:18 PM

Agitated by news reports and warnings by economists of recession signals, the president has privately claimed that "forces that do not want him to win" have been exaggerating the damage his trade war has caused the global economy.

Trump is convinced there is a conspiracy to distort economic data and exaggerate the prospect of a recession.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-conspiracy-behind-recession-warni
ngs-report-2019-8


Trump is becoming increasingly nervous that the end of an 11-year expansion could scupper his hopes of a second term and is going on the attack as ill omens and recent stock market slumps haunt the global economy. The economy may be more important for Trump than it is for other presidents given that its current health is one of the few policy areas where polls show he has majority support. Therefore it is ironic that some of Trump's own policies — for instance his tariff war with China — are raising investor fears of a recession that could doom him politically.
www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/politics/donald-trump-economy-2020-election-chi
na-trade-war/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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