Star Wars : Got woke, going broke. The Force is not so strong w/ Disney , theme park woes.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Monday, January 10, 2022 22:40
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Originally posted by Moose:
You miss the uproar about Discovery? Admittedly not as prominent as the SW folks but it's there. And I'm sure they'll find something to bitch about when Picard comes out.
Because shoving gratuitous SJW plots that make ZERO sense in the faces of fans has always worked out so well.
Never saw STD, because hell...standards, but it's a flaming pile of a hot mess. None of the stories makes a bit of sense, but hey, don't budge from that deck chair, no matter how far the ship's bow is below the surface.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wish. you're flat out wrong, and just too fucking stubborn to admit it. That's why you're such an insufferable clown on this forum. You have no facts, no substance in your positions, just tired , low rent misandry gutter chatter.
And HERE WE GO AGAIN. You get three or four responses in and either declare "You're WRONG" or "I'm the wiener"
NO wonder you're a Trumptard, he has to declare himself a winner when there isn't even a contest, too Insecure Toad Syndrome, you has it
Yer just mad you don't get to dictate plots. Like I said.....GET.....A....LIFE!
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Just for the record, nobody had a problem with Rey because she was a strong female character.
She's a 1 dimensional static character and a Mary Sue.
She has no personality. She had no challenges. She was immediately the best at anything she tried. She was perfect. She was completely un-relateable to everybody, male or female.
Nobody likes a Deus Ex Machina. Especially when your main character is either the God or the Machine, him or herself.
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But the new non-Dionysiac spirit is most clearly apparent in the endings of the new dramas. At the end of the old tragedies there was a sense of metaphysical conciliation without which it is impossible to imagine our taking delight in tragedy; perhaps the conciliatory tones from another world echo most purely in Oedipus at Colonus. Now, once tragedy had lost the genius of music, tragedy in the strictest sense was dead: for where was that metaphysical consolation now to be found? Hence an earthly resolution for tragic dissonance was sought; the hero, having been adequately tormented by fate, won his well-earned reward in a stately marriage and tokens of divine honour. The hero had become a gladiator, granted freedom once he had been satisfactorily flayed and scarred. Metaphysical consolation had been ousted by the deus ex machina.
~Friedrich Nietzsche
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Wish - if all you're gonna bring to the table are insults, at least make them good ones.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just for the record, nobody had a problem with Rey because she was a strong female character.
She's a 1 dimensional static character and a Mary Sue.
She has no personality. She had no challenges. She was immediately the best at anything she tried. She was perfect. She was completely un-relateable to everybody, male or female.
Nobody likes a Deus Ex Machina. Especially when your main character is either the God or the Machine, him or herself.
I liked her, at first. Or at least, I DID like her , for what I had hoped they'd make her out to be. But when she went from a feisty but clever gutter urchin to taking on the most powerful Sith apprentice since Vader himself and dueled him to a draw the first time she'd ever picked up a freaking light sabre, I knew the franchised had lost its way.
So yeah, everything Wish says is 100% wrong, because she can't counter any argument with fact, just blind misandry.
Really expect better, but guess not with her.
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Rey is Robert Redford from The Natural, if Robert Redford from The Natural starred in a bunch of sequels where he beats rookie sensation Michael Jordan 1-on-1 with his AARP card sitting in his gym bag, he beats Bobby Fisher in chess and went on to design the worlds most sophisticated A.I. chess program and beat that too then he went on to crack the code and bring free energy to the world through nuclear fission while finding time in his day to also pummel Rocky Balboa in the ring.
Boring.
The only way that they can save the series is by making Rey the bad guy. The most powerful and terrible Sith Apprentice there ever was. Maybe bring back Jar Jar Binks as her Sith Master, and make him the most powerful Sith Lord that ever was too (since that was always theorized by many he was behind the rise of the Emperor in the first place).
At least she'd be interesting then. And it would also go a long way in explaining how she's the best at everything she does at her very first attempt. I'd watch it.
Talk about subverting expectations.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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ok...first off.. (WishImay)...is she always like that? (grin)...holy crap batgirl ! er... I mean bat (woman).
I'm a grandpa of 8 and 7 of them are girls..and I have 3 daughters of my own in addition to male offspring...trust me when I say my girls are every bit the value to me and I love seeing my grandkids dressing and acting out Rey and Wonderwoman, etc.
but watching my millenials and grands (all under 12yrs old).. I see them investing in other products that have all the production elements that far outstretch what we grew up with in our beloved Star Wars...it simply no longer holds the market base..yeah, it'll get it's share, but it no longer is a standout high on a hill with low budget scifi wannabees groveling at the base of the mountain.
so..to Ms Wish's point...no (and you'd need to know my family to know that you can't play race nor gender card here) I wouldn't see a strong female roll, or a young black man romance with white supergirl or asian as anything other than a great love story..and I think those in the movie played it, and were directed, well in that respect.
but I agree that "edgy" might be a good term...where Disney seems to look for every oppty to impose their thinking on the market so that I can no longer watch a version of Beauty and the Beast without having my gaydar alarm go off, or the more subtle..ie let's look at the latest Spidey...where mystery-cheerio all but comes out of the closet once he reveals what a bad guy he is...really? the former prince of persia just had to portray a Marvel bad guy in full flamage? why?
stay on topic..stay on theme...worry about making a great epic, not pushing social snowflake agendas...
and a final note when it comes to the strong women thing...please hire one that can actually act, rather than onboarding an actress just because of her facebook posts.
I long ago left Star wars, and frankly almost abandoned Marvel (Thor Dark World) when the directors were all jonesin for the Nat..lord that girl has no acting talent, she boggs down scenes and that's when she's at her best...so give me a young black storm trooper in love with a stronger Jedi girl...give me a might Thor getting outwitted and butt-kicked by a black valkerie...but show me how it furthers the story, not just shoving agendas down my throat...cause if I see it and don't like it...guess who's kids and grandkids are less likely to be exposed to it as well.
rant complete...exit when ready....
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...but show me how it furthers the story, not just shoving agendas down my throat.
Fans have never NOT bought into the idea of strong women heroes. Despite River, Buffy, Faith being approx. 5'5" and 120 lbs, we cheered for them to kick ass and take names.
We casually accepted Ripley from Alien 40 years ago just as easily as we did Wonder Woman in 2017. But apparently it wasn't enough to ease Hollywood's collective guilt over Harvey Weinstein and the culture in which THEY lived in for how many decades ?
We the fans are being forced to pay for the sins of Hollywood. Problem is, it doesn't work like that. WE aren't going to pay for the SJW /#MeToo bullshit with the likes of Captain Mary Sue, Rey or Bat Woman, who stole literally everything from Batman, except his talent, backstory, motivation to fight for justice... It's an out of control Wahman fest which no one asked for and sure as hell no one wants.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
but I agree that "edgy" might be a good term...where Disney seems to look for every oppty to impose their thinking on the market so that I can no longer watch a version of Beauty and the Beast without having my gaydar alarm go off, or the more subtle..ie let's look at the latest Spidey...where mystery-cheerio all but comes out of the closet once he reveals what a bad guy he is...really? the former prince of persia just had to portray a Marvel bad guy in full flamage? why?
stay on topic..stay on theme...worry about making a great epic, not pushing social snowflake agendas...
I don't know if you know this, but people that are gay LIKE to see gay characters, and should be able to without your Old White Prude Dude Gay Hating Attitude. You like seeing white guys on TV, they like seeing gay people. I like seeing gay people be happy.
Maybe, just maybe....it's NOT pushing an agenda or "imposing thinking", but representing REAL... FUCKING... LIFE.
Yanno, that's okay, we wouldn't wanna make you think. It's clear it's NOT something you are used to.
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