Star Wars : Got woke, going broke. The Force is not so strong w/ Disney , theme park woes.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Monday, January 10, 2022 22:40
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sci-fi story posted on a sci-fi forum. And yes, people who grew up on Star Wars would still fork over plenty of money, so the crack about millennials not having enough is laughable.
Last I checked, my name is not Tim Pool. Nor is it Gary Beigler. Nor is it Anna, That Star Wars Girl… Those people who have a vested interest in this topic? And millions of other fans ? Yeah, it’s kind of a big deal.
That sounds like science-fiction.
You’re posting on a science-fiction webpage. Dear.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Guess that stuck a cork in her hole.
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I was unaware they made corks that big.
But I'll be damned... looks like they do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I didn’t watch the videos, but any declines in park attendance have nothing to do with Star Wars having female or minority protagonists - just like it’s ALWAYS had, by the way. :/
Disney has recently jumped up ticket prices considerably. In Anaheim, many hotels have also upped their prices, and Disney Land has had blackout dates for many pass holders (ironically, for fear of crowds). There is also strong anecdotal evidence that many park goers wait a while for perceived crowds to thin and for technical kinks to work themselves out (the new Pandora rides in Animal Kingdom were still breaking down fairly regularly six months after open). Also important to note that only one of two projected rides is currently open, so many people may be holding off until Galaxys Edge is actually complete.
Not sure if Disney World attendance is down this year but if it is, that’s likely people holding off until GE opens there.
There are many viable reasons for park attendance to be down, a the vast majority relate to dollar bills in some way.
Disney, though, for all their success, does not have a perfect track record and there may be some precedent here with Animal Kingdom. When they opened their fourth park in Orlando, Disney anticipated that attendance would rise but it remained static (again, primarily financial reasons). Rather than staying longer, as they had when Epcot and Hollywood Studios were added, most visitors just divided their time between four parks. This rare but major misstep led to financial issues and the firing of multiple Imagineers - who went on to work on Universal Islands of Adventure.
With respect to the franchise as a whole, I think the real issues have little to do with Rey (although she’s a weak character) and more to do with two things: the fanbase and the treatment in general.
I think Disney was trying out to turn Star Wars into another MCU, but without a grand plan, it’s more like the DCCU. Perhaps more importantly, it seems there’s more taste for Star Wars being a “premium event” series rather than something like the MCU, pumping out movie after movie.
Then there’s the fanbase.
Already fractured along multiple lines (those who embrace everything, those who ignore the comics, those who acknowledge only the movies, and those who hate everything but the Original Trilogy), they weren’t going to be happy with any change - and, for better or worse, Disney brought major change.
As a Lifelong Star Wars fan (indeed, fanatic), it saddens me that so many of my peers are so whiny and melodramatic and unaccepting. I’ve never heard a Star Trek can say that Picard or Data or Worf “raped their childhood memories.” Seriously? Get over it.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
If it comes to it they can just back track and start following the fan favorite content they already own from the old expanded universe.
By all means, let's cater to the incels and racists and pretend women and people of color don't exist and never did because of raging inferiority complexes in white dudes.
Maybe this time around it'll be easier to just have the guys take out their trouser sabers and joust with them...
I'm assuming this means you don't know what the old expanded universe was about. Luke's love interest Mara Jade was a huge fan favorite. Also, Han and Leia's daughter is one of if not the most important jedi of the new jedi order that Luke teaches. He even gives up being the leader of the order and an female alien jedi takes over. So, there's quite a bit of female representation and it never saw any fan backlash because they were good characters. Just like no one ever complaining about Leia in the original trilogy. She's a good character so who cares about male or female?
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Just like no one ever complaining about Leia in the original trilogy. She's a good character so who cares about male or female?
Hubby is a big fan of SW, I know plenty more than most. Maybe you aren't around enough rednecks, but the ones here were pretty incensed Rey was strong female and a lead character. A LOT of men considered Star Wars a male series, meant JUST for their entertainment (hello, gold bikinis). I had a conversation with my father in law about how he should be happy to have Star Wars lean in a female way because he has 5 granddaughters now and he could relate to them through it and he was so mad he couldn't speak to me the rest of the day.
To people who aren't sure of their own worth, and constantly need confirmation from outside sources, it's ego damaging to be told they AREN'T the center of the universe. Even if it's something as stupid and vague as character representation...
To the rest of the sane world it matters not a damn which dangly bits are on the person on screen, it's all fantasy anyway, but we CLEARLY are not living in a sane world.
How many of the women who have had anything to do with Star Wars, whether acting, directing or just writing articles about it have been harassed or sent death threats?? The answer is... ALL OF THEM.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Guess that stuck a cork in her hole.
I actually have a life to see to once in a while. You might try it.
Oh, that's right... hard to get a life when your cork is soggy and limp.
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Quote:I have great difficulty believing that a lack of waiting line would not be quickly rectified by the locals - they'll know from the grapevine that great fun can be had without a wait.
Originally posted by GWEK:
I didn’t watch the videos, but any declines in park attendance have nothing to do with Star Wars having female or minority protagonists - just like it’s ALWAYS had, by the way. :/
Disney has recently jumped up ticket prices considerably. In Anaheim, many hotels have also upped their prices, and Disney Land has had blackout dates for many pass holders (ironically, for fear of crowds). There is also strong anecdotal evidence that many park goers wait a while for perceived crowds to thin and for technical kinks to work themselves out (the new Pandora rides in Animal Kingdom were still breaking down fairly regularly six months after open). Also important to note that only one of two projected rides is currently open, so many people may be holding off until Galaxys Edge is actually complete.
Not sure if Disney World attendance is down this year but if it is, that’s likely people holding off until GE opens there.
There are many viable reasons for park attendance to be down, a the vast majority relate to dollar bills in some way.
Disney, though, for all their success, does not have a perfect track record and there may be some precedent here with Animal Kingdom. When they opened their fourth park in Orlando, Disney anticipated that attendance would rise but it remained static (again, primarily financial reasons). Rather than staying longer, as they had when Epcot and Hollywood Studios were added, most visitors just divided their time between four parks. This rare but major misstep led to financial issues and the firing of multiple Imagineers - who went on to work on Universal Islands of Adventure.
With respect to the franchise as a whole, I think the real issues have little to do with Rey (although she’s a weak character) and more to do with two things: the fanbase and the treatment in general.
I think Disney was trying out to turn Star Wars into another MCU, but without a grand plan, it’s more like the DCCU. Perhaps more importantly, it seems there’s more taste for Star Wars being a “premium event” series rather than something like the MCU, pumping out movie after movie.
Then there’s the fanbase.
Already fractured along multiple lines (those who embrace everything, those who ignore the comics, those who acknowledge only the movies, and those who hate everything but the Original Trilogy), they weren’t going to be happy with any change - and, for better or worse, Disney brought major change.
As a Lifelong Star Wars fan (indeed, fanatic), it saddens me that so many of my peers are so whiny and melodramatic and unaccepting. I’ve never heard a Star Trek can say that Picard or Data or Worf “raped their childhood memories.” Seriously? Get over it.
So the other option is it is not great fun.
The price issue can be a factor.
But the lack of a line would not be a significant factor because the locals, who don't need to plan well in advance, would take up the slack.
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Originally posted by GWEK:
As a Lifelong Star Wars fan (indeed, fanatic), it saddens me that so many of my peers are so whiny and melodramatic and unaccepting. I’ve never heard a Star Trek can say that Picard or Data or Worf “raped their childhood memories.” Seriously? Get over it.
You miss the uproar about Discovery? Admittedly not as prominent as the SW folks but it's there. And I'm sure they'll find something to bitch about when Picard comes out.
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Leia was a strong, female character. She was the LEAD in her 2 step w/ Han. That was 40 years ago. This crap about ' Rey's a strong character and you men are just threatened ' is 100% bantha crap. And everyone knows it. It's the same damn Mary Sue b.s. over and over again.
Wish. you're flat out wrong, and just too fucking stubborn to admit it. That's why you're such an insufferable clown on this forum. You have no facts, no substance in your positions, just tired , low rent misandry gutter chatter.
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