Matrix vs. Firefly
POSTED BY: reginaroadie
UPDATED: Thursday, July 14, 2016 06:09
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Also, the presence of Richard O'Brien as one of the villainous Strangers was an added level of superior creepiness. I mean, who would you feel more threatened by? An Australian guy whose prevoius role had been a drag queen doing his best Tommy Lee Jones impression by drawling out his syllables, or a ratty looking drug addled dude from THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW with a soothing yet villainous voice?
In the commentary track, one of the people on the second track said that "No computer effect can replace Richard O'Brien." And it's true. Like in the scene where John Murdoch's memories were implanted into Mr. Hand, the delivery of that line "Oh yes, Mr. Book. I have John Murdoch in mind." just the delivery of that line is enough to send chills up your spine as opposed to Agent Smith stiffly saying "What good is a phone call if you are un-able...to speak?"
And to make the whole Matrix is a Dark City knockoff idea more concerete, Bruce Spence, one of the Strangers (Mr. Book) was in REVOLUTIONS as the train guy.
"NO HAI ES BANDAI. THERE IS....NO.....BAND. AND YET....WE HEAR A BAND."
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The story of Dark City was around for a long time--wasn't it a comic first? Plus, I think it's actually mre Tron than Dark City, in many ways... that's just my personal opinion, of course (BIG fan of Tron, and not BIG because of my height).
And I agree, the first time, it blew our minds, the second and third times, we'd see it in the first one, plus a zillion clones.
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Also, the presence of Richard O'Brien as one of the villainous Strangers was an added level of superior creepiness. I mean, who would you feel more threatened by? An Australian guy whose prevoius role had been a drag queen doing his best Tommy Lee Jones impression by drawling out his syllables, or a ratty looking drug addled dude from THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW with a soothing yet villainous voice?
In the commentary track, one of the people on the second track said that "No computer effect can replace Richard O'Brien." And it's true. Like in the scene where John Murdoch's memories were implanted into Mr. Hand, the delivery of that line "Oh yes, Mr. Book. I have John Murdoch in mind." just the delivery of that line is enough to send chills up your spine as opposed to Agent Smith stiffly saying "What good is a phone call if you are un-able...to speak?"
And to make the whole Matrix is a Dark City knockoff idea more concerete, Bruce Spence, one of the Strangers (Mr. Book) was in REVOLUTIONS as the train guy.
"NO HAI ES BANDAI. THERE IS....NO.....BAND. AND YET....WE HEAR A BAND."
Mr Hand ? I always pictured Ray Walston as Mr Hand. "What are you, people? On Dope?"
.....sorry. hee hee. Couldn't help myself.
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Re: serenity set theory.
Thanks Zoid. Much appreciated. I think the fact that Serenity is a continuous set makes it seem much more real. If the sets were still up it would be possible to be in the ship, live in the ship, just as the crew do. Something wondrous about that.
"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."
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One: No one posted in with a defense on the philosophical aspects of the Matrix? I am ashamed of you all.
Two: How can it be a knock-off of Dark City, the plots are completely different. Aliens aren't machines, etc. Now, I loved Dark City, but I never for an instant put the two together, since they are entirely different! Similarities between Neo and the "scooning" are just that, similarities. The matrix trilogy was inspired by Eastern Philosophy concerning the nature of reality, choice, and the idea of deus ex machina.
Three: Can't we all like both? I do, it's not like it's adultery or anything.
"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna see to that"
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Brown isn't cool
black trenchcoats and black sunglasses is cool.
whatching the badguys standing still shooting, then the good guys shooting, then the bad guys falling over isn't cool.
whatching the good guys jumping round a room in slow motion shooting machine guns diving behind pillars and doing cool looking martial arts moves is cool.
some lame story where a special agent is chasing a fugitive girl is only cool if she is looking for a mate and takes her clothes off alot.
having a special agent looking for a cool computer hacker who can save the world by doing cool martial arts moves is cool.
oh and southern accents is definately not cool
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Browncoats:
Troll. Look at MynameisJonas' Profile page and read all 3 of his/her posts since becoming a member on 22 November 2004. Then, form an opinion on the validity of his/her viewpoints, and the coolness of some Matrix fans.
Dismissively,
zoid
P.S.
Please note: I did not say 'all Matrix fans'. I myself am an enduring fan of the first Matrix film, as well as all original and innovative filmmaking, and I am "definately" (sic) cool... Well, at least I'm not a total geek... Okay, how about "I'm the exception that proves the rule"?
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I'm not gonna get into the Matrix thread (I am a fan of all three movies, though there're certain directorial and narrative choices I'd've made differently).
Quote:The Promenade set for Deep Space Nine: full circle, two floors (though the second floor wasn't actually finished when they started filming).
Originally posted by zoid:
It may or may not be the first time such a set has been built and used,
But you're right; it's not the standard way of doing things.
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I thought of DS9 as well. That had a special atmosphere too. Could b cos of the sets.
"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."
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zoid what the the hell?, you mean because i only have three posts that makes me a troll, we are all beginners at sometime.
anyway i wasn't tryring to call firefly fans uncool i was merely pointing out the reason the first matrix movie was so popular, and why i think serenity won't be.
You can go on and on about how it can't fail because its made by JOSS, but the only movies that make money are the ones that have lots of ads on tv, with big name actors blowing stuff up and opera music playing.
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