A thread for Democrats Only
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Originally posted by second:
Trump presents himself as an alpha male, bigger, badder and sexier than anyone else in the zoo. Threats and insults are his standard operating procedure. People don’t support him because they think he’s nice or sophisticated in his reasoning.
The irony, of course, is that once you get past his mouth he turns out to be an uncommonly weak and ineffectual president. True, his allies and cronies are securing judgeships and eviscerating regulations, but Trump himself is 99% Public Relations. His job is to distract you from what the real movers and shakers in the White House, the Cabinet, and the GOP controlled Senate are doing.
The New York Times, by giving us megadoses of Trump’s mouth, is a megaphone for him. If they secretly want him to be re-elected, they should continue doing more of that and less and less covering what his Cabinet and the Senate are doing. But here’s a better way:
1. Absolutely no front page news on Trump unless he actually does something — and saying stupid or mean stuff doesn’t qualify as doing.
2. Change the ruling meme from “He is upending the world through his threats and insults” to “He is a blowhard who actually does almost nothing.” Treat him not like an alpha but more like an omega with endless vocalizations, best ignored.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Good luck.
Should have been doing that for 3 years now, but yanno.
Not sure why you singled out the NYT though. The entirety of the MSM works for him in this regard.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Why NYT? Because Trump has tweeted hundreds of times about the "failing" New York Times. It is failing . . . to comprehend how Trump is manipulating the news to distract voters from how much money the GOP is looting every year. The national debt grows by about $trillion per year. The Treasury bonds for that debt are being purchased by rich members of the GOP. Also, the IRS does not collect about $500 billion from rich members of the GOP cheating on their taxes. Looting, in other words. Look at Trump; don't look at the numbers or else you see what has been happening for about 40 years, since Ronald Reagan.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not sure why you singled out the NYT though. The entirety of the MSM works for him in this regard.
https://factba.se/topic/twitter?q=failing&f=
www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/debt-laden-us-government-is-expanding-the-size
-of-treasury-bond-auctio.html
http://business.time.com/2013/03/27/the-600-billion-the-i-r-s-cant-col
lect/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You've also been mesmerized by Trump, SECOND. What with your endless posts about his tweets, your endless posts about about op-eds about his tweets, your endless posts about about op-eds about op-eds about his tweets ... and so on.
YOU are the NYTimes' perfect audience. So is the democratic party.
Long, long ago I decided Trump in particular was one politician completely not worth paying attention to. I decided to focus on the dems, because I wanted to see if they could get clean of their 'but Trump!' (and 'RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!') addiction, and try and become a real alternative for what ails the country.
Granted, my focus is peculiar. I have two issues I focus on. And I don't care HOW a candidate presents themselves, I pay attention to the content. BTW, if you want to know how peculiar that makes me, Kamala Harris' meteoric post-debate poll rise is due to presentation. (As was pointed out in a post-debate analysis, as a prosecutor, she's had lots of practice putting on a good show to influence juries.) But I listened to what she said, and she was a weather-vane on the issues. And THAT came across as completely, coldly self-serving.
Anyway, overall, the dems have nearly all failed to break out of the Trumpian drug-haze.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac
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Quote:Remember your signature? No matter which Democrat becomes President, so long as the GOP has at least 40 Senators, that Democrat will be ineffective. Will making the GOP a minority in the Senate fix America? No, not until you fix American voters, too. The country needs voters who are unforgiving of their Congressman's mistakes.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac
So long as the majority of voters approve/admire/support the troops and what they claim to do for a living (not what they actually do), America will be at war, irregardless of who is President, because your local Congressman will keep voting to fund war. Remember how ridiculously difficult it was to end the Vietnam War? It was because a majority of Americans supported the troops, despite a few million hippie protestors not giving their support. That war only ended when Congress realized that the troops would never win, no matter how many bombs were dropped, or years passed. Only then did Congress cut-off the money. Congress is even slower to realize the troops will never win in Afghanistan and it is years past time to cut-off funding for that nonsense. That won't change with a new President. So long as the majority of voters support our troops in the good-for-nothing-useful Army/Navy/Air Force/Marines, the Congress will keep paying for war and the President will keep the troops in the field, irregardless of which party has the Presidency.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Way to show us all how you only talk to the voices in your head, SECOND!
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, now you are repeating Signym's talking point about "second".
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Way to show us all how you only talk to the voices in your head, SECOND!
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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So are you impressed with Pete Buttigieg? He is nothing like any Republican who has ever run for President. I'd vote for him in the primary, but the average primary voter won't. If he was President, he would still be stuck with what Congress will or won't allow to be done. He would not be able to move things in a new direction. The Constitution won't allow it. Either Congress picks a direction, or it does not happen. And when was the last time a majority in Congress had a direction or a goal other than making money? Congress loves to pretend that it is the President who creates all new ideas and sets the country's direction. Pretending that guidance comes only from the President hides the fact that Congress doesn't have a majority for any new ideas and hides who is really in charge. Buttigieg has all kinds of ideas. None of them will be implemented under his Presidency because of Congress:
https://peteforamerica.com/issues/#Democracy
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Last election, I was a single issue voter. I didn't want us humans to blow the world up. I made that point repeatedly.
Sure I discussed a lot of things. This *IS* a discussion board after all. I discussed how democrats have failed us for decades. I pointed out that Hillary was an abysmal candidate with historic net negative ratings even before the primary. I said the DNC was undemocratic and corrupt. I said the platform was about appealing to victim-hood. I proposed that if I were running a campaign, I would base it on a FAIR DEAL theme.
This time around I'm a two-issue voter. I don't want us humans to blow the world up, or burn it up (if at all avoidable at this point).
In the last election, I didn't vote for Trump. But I did vote against Hillary. This time around, once again, I will NOT vote for a democrat 'just because'. I won't put them on my team if they're going to be scoring points for the other side.
But rest assured, SECOND, my vote in California will count for nothing in this deep blue state. You can sleep well knowing that my two issues will probably be swept away by the tide of "RUSSIA!TRUMP!" and "the poor illegal immigrants".
"(Buttigieg) is nothing like any Republican who has ever run for President." He's a democrat.
Pete is an intelligent, articulate debater. I don't know how deep his rhetoric goes. And he gave short shrift to my two issues. I would have to hear more before I figure out if he's likely to shift his focus from the mayoral to the global, as I think these crises demand.
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Originally posted by second:
Will making the GOP a minority in the Senate fix America? No, not until you fix American voters, too.
In other words: we're screwed.
Thank you for putting a big chunk of the responsibility and blame on the backs of voters. They get a pass all too often. It is similar to how we need to shine the light on Consumers, and why much of our current money grubbing and wasteful landscape is the result of their own ignorance and greed.
We've inspired me to update a quote:
"The only problem with Democracy is that you get the government you deserve."
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Originally posted by second:
https://peteforamerica.com/issues/#Democracy
I would vote for Mayor Pete for many reasons. The least of them, but still worthy, would be to see him shaking Putin's hand. What an image - goofy Pete with weasel Putin. Or Kim, or Xi - or any foreign leader after seeing that f*cking orange fake news pos posing as president.
Pete seems like what a modern president should be - less celebrity and more technocrat. Less *personality* and more ideas and problem solving. I'm ready.
May have to wait for 2024 though.
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Quote:You are too focused on one office, and it is the wrong one at that. The majority leader of Senate has Trump on a long leash. Trump thinks he can go where he pleases, but the Senate could jerk him out of office in a month, if the majority leader wanted to. For one example, Trump can't get his wall built because the majority leader never wanted it.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Pete is an intelligent, articulate debater. I don't know how deep his rhetoric goes. And he gave short shrift to my two issues. I would have to hear more before I figure out if he's likely to shift his focus from the mayoral to the global, as I think these crises demand.
There is a strong chance, likely better than even, that if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020 she will take office with a Senate still controlled by Mitch McConnell and the Republicans. Apart from the occasional bill to keep the government open or to address some issue about which there is no particular controversy, McConnell will allow no significant legislation to pass. No ambitious health care reform, no universal child care, no climate change initiative, nothing.
Not only that, McConnell will go even farther than he did under Barack Obama to stifle the rest of the president’s agenda. Republicans will refuse to confirm any cabinet member who has any kind of liberal bona fides. They will slow the filling of judicial vacancies to a crawl, or they may simply refuse to confirm any judges at all. That, of course, goes for the Supreme Court too. Should any vacancies occur, McConnell will announce that he has discovered some new “rule” embedded in a remark some Democrat made decades ago which demands that as long as the presidency and the Senate are held by different parties, no Supreme Court seat shall be filled. After all, they got along with eight members while McConnell waited for Trump to be elected, and they’ll do just fine with eight again. Or seven. Or six.
Meanwhile, that same Supreme Court — having already repealed Roe v. Wade and made it impossible for unions to organize — will be steadily striking down one action after another taken by that Democratic president, as it goes about dismantling the administrative state and whittling the president’s power down to a shadow of what it is, on the longstanding Republican judicial principle that the rules change completely when there’s a Democrat in the White House.
If your response to this picture is to say, “C’mon, they wouldn’t go that far,” I’d be curious to know what life is like in the alternate universe you’ve been inhabiting for the last 20 years.
"What Democrats Don't Get About the Republican Party"
https://prospect.org/article/what-democrats-dont-get-about-republican-
party
The GOP is never beaten, because it never stops fighting. Even when Democrats think they've won.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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