IRAN: Trump's war?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 20, 2019 6:50 PM

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explains hundreds of millions of painful failures in America.- SECOND

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Well, explain YOUR painful failure. It might help you to understand the painful failures of others.

Oh. I think at this point it's painfully obvious from Second's post history that he believes that he's never failed at anything in life and that he holds a monopoly on the truth and the right way to think about everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:02 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

That tribalism keeps you, and your cohorts here, from evaluating 'your' tribe - democrats - rationally.

Do you want examples? Shall I point out the many, many problems I posted regarding Hillary, the DNC, and the platform?

It is not tribalism. It is realism.

Signym, there are only two choices: Democrats or Republicans. The Green Party and Ralph Nader/Jill Stein are not the third choice. And the so-called "Independent" politicians are truly either Republican or Democrat. The "Independent" is a name change to confuse the voters, similar to the trickiness of Abe Lincoln running in 1864 as the candidate of the "National Union Party", rather than the Republican Party. "Independent" is bull. Your only decision is: Which party is the worst? Then vote for the other. If you wish, vote in the primary to pick the candidate, but don't expect that Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic Presidential candidate on the November 2020 ballot or Bill Weld will be the Republican candidate. It is only Democrat or Republican. There is no third choice that can win.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/05/bill-weld-2020-trump-226796

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. I think at this point it's painfully obvious from Second's post history that he believes that he's never failed at anything in life and that he holds a monopoly on the truth and the right way to think about everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I have failed, but in same sense as Jeff Bezos. “Given a 10 percent chance of a 100-times payout, you should take that bet every time,” Bezos wrote in his very first annual letter (1997). “Failure and invention are inseparable twins. To invent you have to experiment, and if you know in advance that it’s going to work, it’s not an experiment.”

www.cnbc.com/2016/05/13/5-key-business-lessons-from-amazons-jeff-bezos
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Most people want a 99% chance of success at making a 10% return. That will keep you alive but not much is possible thinking like that.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:23 PM

lol

He's Jeff Bezos now.

Thanks for gracing us with your cow farts all over this forum that 10 people read everyday, Jeff.

Must be nice to have so much money that you don't have to do any work.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bernie Sanders couldn't dismantle a piece of IKEA furniture.

Funny, since AOC can't put a piece of IKEA furniture together.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Why do you think you could? I see no indication of any intelligence at all coming from you.

SECOND

Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

He's Jeff Bezos now.

Thanks for gracing us with your cow farts all over this forum that 10 people read everyday, Jeff.

Must be nice to have so much money that you don't have to do any work.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You voted for Trump because you are a dumb ass. I'd bet that next time you either don't vote, vote for a third party, or vote for Trump. Trump has been saying for years he wants a war with Iran. He even told you during his campaign. We might not get one because Trump has disorganized the Pentagon because he is a confused old man. Or we might not get one because starting a war with Iran before the election would interfere with him being elected. But who knows what Trump will do? He sure doesn't.

In his 2011 book, Time to Get Tough, Trump stated, "America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran's nuclear program must be stopped–by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists."

On September 7, 2015, Trump said of the Iran nuclear deal, "If somebody was telling me about how bad the contract is and how they hate the country — how do you sign a contract like this? And that’s the least of it. The contract is a disaster in virtually every way, and one way that people haven’t even talked about: they have an attack clause. If anybody attacks them, we have to protect them. What happens if Israel attacks them? Nobody has been able to answer that question yet, including [Secretary of State John] Kerry."

On September 6, 2016, Donald Trump said that Iran was not a threat to the world until President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton began negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran, which made the country a "world power." He said, "If you take a look at Iran from four, five years ago they were dying. They had sanctions, they were being choked to death and they were dying. They weren't even going to be much of a threat. They didn't have anything going and now they're a power. Overnight, we've made them a power." He then called the nuclear deal "the highest level of incompetence."

https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2016/Iran

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:50 PM

lol

The clowns in this thread are multiplying.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:45 PM

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Oh. I think at this point it's painfully obvious from Second's post history that he believes that he's never failed at anything in life and that he holds a monopoly on the truth and the right way to think about everything. - SIX

I have failed, but in same sense as Jeff Bezos. “Given a 10 percent chance of a 100-times payout, you should take that bet every time,” Bezos wrote in his very first annual letter (1997). ... Most people want a 99% chance of success at making a 10% return. That will keep you alive but not much is possible thinking like that.
- SECOND

SECOND, you could learn about Americans if you look into your own past, but - apparently- insight is just impossible for you.

According to you, you've made one horribly wrong choice in your life, which was volunteering for Vietnam. It was a choice a LOT of young men made, and for many it ended in death. That you escaped with a relatively minor disability was due to one thing: YOU GOT LUCKY.

Aording to you, you've made one great choice in your life, which was buying a crap piece of land/ mineral rights which might have oil or gas underneath it, and then riding an oil boom based on cheap money and endless loans, and it has been paying off ever since. And the reason why you got so rich is because YOU GOT LUCKY.

Unfortunately, you seem to think that because you made one good investment that paid off spectacularly now everything you think, feel, and do is golden. You're wise beyond belief. IN REALITY, you stray from reality quite often.

Take that piece of crap advice from Bezos: It only works if you are able to lose whatever you put up at risk. If you're living on the edge of survival, as many people are, you can't risk any of your time, or money, or resources because its loss would mean death. It is the UNREALISTIC advice given by someone who can afford to lose, and KEEP ON AFFORDING to lose, over and over and over again in low-probability ventures. It is the kind of fatuous advice that someone like you might give: Someone who is more than comfortably well-off, someone who got lucky, someone who already lives in a world that most people dodn't live in. In other words, its a piece of unrealistic crap.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:49 PM

In any case, we've strayed far from Iran. (I'll get into WHY Americans are so warlike later)

I see the American deep state has arranged another provocation, and that is sending a drone over Iran, which Iran shot down.

Yanno, it seems that every time Trump has an upcoming meeting (G20 in this case) where peace might break out between Trump and Putin, "something" happens. This has Bolt-on's fingerprints all over it.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

1KIKI

Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

That tribalism keeps you, and your cohorts here, from evaluating 'your' tribe - democrats - rationally.

Do you want examples? Shall I point out the many, many problems I posted regarding Hillary, the DNC, and the platform?

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Originally posted by SECOND:
It is not tribalism. It is realism.

"Realism" keeps you from recognizing your party's failings and trying to correct them?

Sure. Whatever.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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