Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Quote:The GOP has Six Sigmaed Social Security/Medicare but it continues only because of Democrats. Republicans' Public Opposition To Social Security And Medicare
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, look at that... the sun still rises.
Somebody really needs to Six Sigma the Government and get rid of all of those unnecessary positions.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2018/11/02/republican-public-op
position-to-social-security-and-medicare/
It seems Senator McConnell, usually careful not to rock the boat before the upcoming midterm elections, did not set out to tell the electorate that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid cuts were high on the Republican agenda. It appeared to be a slip as he was caught off guard defending the Republican tax cut . . .
The Republican Party has always been associated with opposition to Social Security. Economic historian Max Skidmore shows that the final vote for Social Security was lopsided--only 2% of Democrats voted against it (because it wasn't generous enough) while 33% of Republicans voted against Social Security.
Historian Arthur Schlesinger (page 311) notes that the Republicans echoed corporate opposition to Social Security. A representative of the Illinois manufacturers testified that if Social Security was passed it would undermine America by “destroying initiative, discouraging thrift, and stifling individual responsibility.” In 1935, Republican congressman John Taber said Social Security “is designed to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers, and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.”
In the 1970s the conservative Cato Institute made shrinking Social Security through privatization its primary objective and in 2005 George W. Bush tried to replace Social Security . . .
When Medicare was first being considered Senate Republican Robert Dole (then in the House) voted against it. Also in opposition to Medicare, in a famous 1964 speech, Ronald Reagan explained that his opposition to Social Security and Medicare is why he switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. He called Social Security “welfare” and said of the possible regret in not stopping the passage of Medicare: “One of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”
When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .
Read more at www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2018/11/02/republican-public-op
position-to-social-security-and-medicare/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:More logic-fail from SECONDRATE. And that's not an insult, that's a simple observation.
Well, it certainly doesn't tell the SECONDRATE "you" anything, because there's an epic logic-fail going on with the SECONDRATE "you", most likely caused by an emotional glitch of self-hate projected on to others, plus a soupcon of PTSD. Until the SECONDRATE "you" fixes its emotional glitch, the logic unit will continue to bonk.- SIGNYM
The Mueller report is unequivocal in concluding that even if Trump is criminally innocent of obstruction, it is not for lack of trying. The main reason the investigation wasn’t completely thwarted was not that the president didn’t “endeavor” to thwart it — the definition of criminal obstruction — but rather that Trump’s subordinates refused to comply. -SECONDRATE
You may have noticed, SECONDRATE, that in this country we don't jail people for what they WANT to do, because that would be jailing people for thought-crime. We only jail people for what they have actually done.
And the reason why Mueller made such a pitch for impeachment (aside from the fact that he's a lying deep-state weasel who joined in on the Iraq WMD fiction as easily as he did on the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! fiction) is because he knows that impeachment is a POLITICAL process, not a legal one, and he was hoping that if Congress couldn't impeach Trump they would at least make political points from then until the election.
There are a lot of policy reasons to not like Trump. There are a lot of policy reasons to not vote Republican.
Democrats should be focusing on THOSE, not on RUSSIA!RUSSIA! or Trump's taxes or "obstruction of justice" which are all just empty (and in fact counterproductive) virtue-signalling.
If the Dems keep at it and nothing else changes, Trump has a great chance of winning the next election.
When will the Dems come up with something other than Trump Derangement Syndrome?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Ok, this thread has gone on long enough.
The people here suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome should, at SOME point, absorb the reality that - just like there was NO collusion* with Russia - IMPEACHMENT IS A DEAD ISSUE. It'll never happen, despite the endless digging into the various pretexts and hoped-for causes ... from Trump taxes to so-called "obstruction" ... impeachment is an itch that'll NEVER be scratched,
So, why are we still talking about this?
Turn your thoughts to more productive uses, something BESIDES trying to rewrite history/ deny reality with an endless stream of words, because no matter how much you throw words at this board Trump isn't going to be impeached.
Here is a thread that deserves your attention:
my platform as presidential candidate - what's yours
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63022
Maybe if we bang our heads together we can come up with a series of potential policy options ... Medicare for all or universal basic income? How to save Social Security? How to reduce greenhouse gases? How much would scaling bakc our military options save us? ... that makes fiscal and economic sense.
It's very possible that the economy will implode and hand the Dems an easy win. It's also very possible that the economy will hang together just long enough to allow Trump a shot at victory.
Either way, there are a lot of people ... people BESIDES the dem base ... who are willing to vote for someone besides Trump ... and the Dems should make sure that their candidate is credible enough to attract these independent voters, which means they need to run on something BESIDES Trump Derangment Syndrome.
Let's sharpen our thoughts on who we might want to run, and why. There are 23 (more?) candidates running, so here's a thread on that topic, not too heavily traveled but with some interesting discussion, that should help us focus on what matters.
Dems, Dem-lites, and Independents: Who ya backing at this point and why?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63028
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Only 2,144 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
How exciting. 002733
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Quote:I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to. When the debt was rising under Obama, the Republicans blamed Obama, not Bush's crash of 2008 for reducing tax receipts. When debt continues to rise under Trump, there is complete denial by the GOP that it has anything to do with the tax code being bent in favor of the wealthy. But what voters will understand is that Trump cheated on his taxes. First, the Democrats have to get their hands on his business records and tax returns, then calculate how much Trump underpaid.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are a lot of policy reasons to not like Trump. There are a lot of policy reasons to not vote Republican.
Democrats should be focusing on THOSE, not on RUSSIA!RUSSIA! or Trump's taxes or "obstruction of justice" which are all just empty (and in fact counterproductive) virtue-signalling.
If the Dems keep at it and nothing else changes, Trump has a great chance of winning the next election.
When will the Dems come up with something other than Trump Derangement Syndrome?
For the Democrats to pay for their policy changes, wealthy people such as Trump and myself will have to pay for it. The tax collection system won't get revised under a Democratic President unless Democrats can firmly pound into the heads of voters that all wealthy people, and especially tax cheating Trump, are swindling the nation. Voters won't understand the arguments by economists, but there is a slim chance they will understand that Trump is a tax crook, if the Democrats can investigate his tax returns.
Signym, do you think a majority of voters will understand The World Bank's new report out on Inequality 2018, if Democrats talked about it? Not a chance. But it is possible to make them understand the GOP supports tax cheating Trump.
https://angrybearblog.com/2019/06/income-inequality-im-tooting-my-own-
horn.html
Go ahead and read all about Inequality. I did, but I'm a 1 Percenter. 99% of voters aren't and they aren't interesting in understanding how they are being screwed or who to vote for (D or R?) to fix it. Voting for a Democrat as President but leaving at least 41 GOP Senators means it won't be fixed. A huge number of GOP Senators will have to lose if there is a chance for the system to change for the better. No amount of talking by Democrats about inequality and tax policy will every make the voters understand, but catching a thief like Trump just might -- it is a very slim chance.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .
So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.
A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I will diagnose what is wrong with you and the typical Republican. You don't understand the difference between bad and worst because you're always looking for good and best. Pence is bad; Trump is worse; go with Pence and avoid the blunders of a senile, disorganized, old fool. Good and best are not available choices, but you can move toward better. Best would be to ditch the entire Republican party and all their Senators protecting Trump from impeachment and the consequences from his crappy behavior and general incompetence.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .
So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.
A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Only 2,144 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
How exciting. 002733
More than enough time for Trump to do everything that needs to be done. Only question is will there be enough insane asylums to accommodate the millions of Trump-deranged libtards that don't kill themselves?
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I will diagnose what is wrong with you and the typical Republican. You don't understand the difference between bad and worst because you're always looking for good and best. Pence is bad; Trump is worse; go with Pence and avoid the blunders of a senile, disorganized, old fool. Good and best are not available choices, but you can move toward better. Best would be to ditch the entire Republican party and all their Senators protecting Trump from impeachment and the consequences from his bad behavior and general incompetence.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .
So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.
A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Good, Best, Bad, Worst...
It's all subjective.
Sorry buddy. Not everybody thinks the way that you do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Too bad for them because they'd be a whole lot more successful. https://markmanson.net/trust
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Good, Best, Bad, Worst...
It's all subjective.
Sorry buddy. Not everybody thinks the way that you do.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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