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Wednesday, June 12, 2019 4:57 AM
Quote:You didn't really point out that pot use leads to a condition which is now called "bipolar" - which is a term used to justify the prescribing of psychotropic drugs to treat this "bipolar" caused by pot. Yes, treat drug addiction by amplifying with more drugs!! What a genius idea!! It is possible that you must become stoned to truly relish the logic behind such a practice.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The West is legalizing Weed, Cannabis... now as a drug it may be no more dangerous, maybe less dangerous than Alcohol or Cigarettes yet it is still a drug
and what are the long term effects of exposing young kids to such drugs which will become the norm
I seen a crazy re-tweeted post or maybe not crazy by a guy called 'JohnLeeTrucker2'
The risk of schizophrenia jumps by more than 300% among regular cannabis users. This is a well-established fact. Read the full blog ...
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https://twitter.com/ErikMessamoreMD/status/1133795472903168000
Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant.
I won't go into effects of alcohol at this point, it has a rich history of physiological effects. In America, it has a history flowing from the Western Frontier. During Expansion, many water supply sources were going to make you sick, knock you out of work. Alcohol, whether still bottled, or poured into a clean glass, usually did not have enough germs to make you ill.
Tobacco as a root plant, has a multitude of minerals within it. When inhaled and stuck to the inside of the lungs, these minerals are deposited in the lungs. The Earth is full of "background radiation" as well as radiation from space, or Sun. Rocks, stones, and minerals give radiation a place to transition. This bombardment of radiation, which normally passes through us, encounters minerals in the lungs, and provides a transition to cancer. As a leaf plant, marijuana does not intake these minerals, and I have not heard of lung cancer resulting from marijuana usage.
The official study on marijuana was conducted by University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 1970's. It found that "moderate use" caused suppression of the immune system, but severe use or abuse caused Immunodepression and damage to the Immune System. Damage was caused by each instance of severe use or abuse, and repeated abuse accumulated the damage. Of course, the human body can repair damaged systems, but continued abuse of marijuana prevents the body from repairing the Immune System while it is being assaulted, and causing permanent damage to the Immune System.
This level of moderate usage was found to be 3 joints of 1970-era caliber marijuana.
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Wednesday, June 12, 2019 6:19 AM
I'd like to add that extreme use of anything can be bad for your health. That isn't just good advice for consumable goods either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, June 13, 2019 6:49 AM
Quote:Continuing after my interruption:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You didn't really point out that pot use leads to a condition which is now called "bipolar" - which is a term used to justify the prescribing of psychotropic drugs to treat this "bipolar" caused by pot. Yes, treat drug addiction by amplifying with more drugs!! What a genius idea!! It is possible that you must become stoned to truly relish the logic behind such a practice.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The West is legalizing Weed, Cannabis... now as a drug it may be no more dangerous, maybe less dangerous than Alcohol or Cigarettes yet it is still a drug
and what are the long term effects of exposing young kids to such drugs which will become the norm
I seen a crazy re-tweeted post or maybe not crazy by a guy called 'JohnLeeTrucker2'
The risk of schizophrenia jumps by more than 300% among regular cannabis users. This is a well-established fact. Read the full blog ...
?
https://twitter.com/ErikMessamoreMD/status/1133795472903168000
Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant.
I won't go into effects of alcohol at this point, it has a rich history of physiological effects. In America, it has a history flowing from the Western Frontier. During Expansion, many water supply sources were going to make you sick, knock you out of work. Alcohol, whether still bottled, or poured into a clean glass, usually did not have enough germs to make you ill.
Tobacco as a root plant, has a multitude of minerals within it. When inhaled and stuck to the inside of the lungs, these minerals are deposited in the lungs. The Earth is full of "background radiation" as well as radiation from space, or Sun. Rocks, stones, and minerals give radiation a place to transition. This bombardment of radiation, which normally passes through us, encounters minerals in the lungs, and provides a transition to cancer. As a leaf plant, marijuana does not intake these minerals, and I have not heard of lung cancer resulting from marijuana usage.
The official study on marijuana was conducted by University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 1970's. It found that "moderate use" caused suppression of the immune system, but severe use or abuse caused Immunodepression and damage to the Immune System. Damage was caused by each instance of severe use or abuse, and repeated abuse accumulated the damage. Of course, the human body can repair damaged systems, but continued abuse of marijuana prevents the body from repairing the Immune System while it is being assaulted, and causing permanent damage to the Immune System.
This level of moderate usage was found to be 3 joints of 1970-era caliber marijuana.
As a result of breeding for more concentrated potency, by 1990 the equivalent Level of abuse/severe use was 1/3 of a joint. By 2000, the equivalent level of abuse/sever use was 1/10 of a joint, By now, it is a fraction of 1/10 of a joint. Anything more than that is permanently damaging your Immune System.
Ever heard of "Acquired" Immune Deficiency Syndrome? The correlation between "AIDS" and pot use is something like 92%, second only to cocaine use at something like 96%. Correlation between "AIDS" and HIV is only in the mid-80s percent. Some people choose to believe that a known Immunodepressant could not possibly be a cause of Immune Deficiency. Yes, cocaine is also an Immunosupressant. HIV Positive tests prove the Immune System is working because it created the HIV Antibody.
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Thursday, June 13, 2019 7:00 AM
This sounds like fantasy land pseudo science to me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, June 13, 2019 5:59 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You didn't really point out that pot use leads to a condition which is now called "bipolar" - which is a term used to justify the prescribing of psychotropic drugs to treat this "bipolar" caused by pot. Yes, treat drug addiction by amplifying with more drugs!! What a genius idea!! It is possible that you must become stoned to truly relish the logic behind such a practice.
Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant.
I won't go into effects of alcohol at this point, it has a rich history of physiological effects. In America, it has a history flowing from the Western Frontier. During Expansion, many water supply sources were going to make you sick, knock you out of work. Alcohol, whether still bottled, or poured into a clean glass, usually did not have enough germs to make you ill.
Tobacco as a root plant, has a multitude of minerals within it. When inhaled and stuck to the inside of the lungs, these minerals are deposited in the lungs. The Earth is full of "background radiation" as well as radiation from space, or Sun. Rocks, stones, and minerals give radiation a place to transition. This bombardment of radiation, which normally passes through us, encounters minerals in the lungs, and provides a transition to cancer. As a leaf plant, marijuana does not intake these minerals, and I have not heard of lung cancer resulting from marijuana usage.
The official study on marijuana was conducted by University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 1970's. It found that "moderate use" caused suppression of the immune system, but severe use or abuse caused Immunodepression and damage to the Immune System. Damage was caused by each instance of severe use or abuse, and repeated abuse accumulated the damage. Of course, the human body can repair damaged systems, but continued abuse of marijuana prevents the body from repairing the Immune System while it is being assaulted, and causing permanent damage to the Immune System.
This level of moderate usage was found to be 3 joints of 1970-era caliber marijuana.
Quote:I'm somewhat boggled as to where to start.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Continuing after my interruption:
As a result of breeding for more concentrated potency, by 1990 the equivalent Level of abuse/severe use was 1/3 of a joint. By 2000, the equivalent level of abuse/sever use was 1/10 of a joint, By now, it is a fraction of 1/10 of a joint. Anything more than that is permanently damaging your Immune System.
Ever heard of "Acquired" Immune Deficiency Syndrome? The correlation between "AIDS" and pot use is something like 92%, second only to cocaine use at something like 96%. Correlation between "AIDS" and HIV is only in the mid-80s percent. Some people choose to believe that a known Immunodepressant could be a cause
"Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant." Marijuana is a flower plant (to be specific, a female flower bud).
. Tobacco is a leaf plant. 
As a drug, neither plant makes use of any part of the root.
Both the marijuana buds and the tobacco leaves are plant parts. All plant parts are made of plant cells and other structures like plants fibers, gums etc. They all contain the necessary elements of life, which include minerals. These minerals / elements like potassium, phosphorous, sodium, magnesium, silica (silicon plus oxygen), do not vaporize during burning, so they are left behind as ash. In sum, they are both equally plant parts that contain minerals that are left behind as ash after burning.
They are also made of organic matter which consists of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and occasional additional elements. This organic matter can be burned to gases. But what would be the point of smoki
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Friday, June 14, 2019 3:36 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You didn't really point out that pot use leads to a condition which is now called "bipolar" - which is a term used to justify the prescribing of psychotropic drugs to treat this "bipolar" caused by pot. Yes, treat drug addiction by amplifying with more drugs!! What a genius idea!! It is possible that you must become stoned to truly relish the logic behind such a practice.
Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant.
I won't go into effects of alcohol at this point, it has a rich history of physiological effects. In America, it has a history flowing from the Western Frontier. During Expansion, many water supply sources were going to make you sick, knock you out of work. Alcohol, whether still bottled, or poured into a clean glass, usually did not have enough germs to make you ill.
Tobacco as a root plant, has a multitude of minerals within it. When inhaled and stuck to the inside of the lungs, these minerals are deposited in the lungs. The Earth is full of "background radiation" as well as radiation from space, or Sun. Rocks, stones, and minerals give radiation a place to transition. This bombardment of radiation, which normally passes through us, encounters minerals in the lungs, and provides a transition to cancer. As a leaf plant, marijuana does not intake these minerals, and I have not heard of lung cancer resulting from marijuana usage.
The official study on marijuana was conducted by University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 1970's. It found that "moderate use" caused suppression of the immune system, but severe use or abuse caused Immunodepression and damage to the Immune System. Damage was caused by each instance of severe use or abuse, and repeated abuse accumulated the damage. Of course, the human body can repair damaged systems, but continued abuse of marijuana prevents the body from repairing the Immune System while it is being assaulted, and causing permanent damage to the Immune System.
This level of moderate usage was found to be 3 joints of 1970-era caliber marijuana.
Quote:I'm somewhat boggled as to where to start.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Continuing after my interruption:
As a result of breeding for more concentrated potency, by 1990 the equivalent Level of abuse/severe use was 1/3 of a joint. By 2000, the equivalent level of abuse/sever use was 1/10 of a joint, By now, it is a fraction of 1/10 of a joint. Anything more than that is permanently damaging your Immune System.
Ever heard of "Acquired" Immune Deficiency Syndrome? The correlation between "AIDS" and pot use is something like 92%, second only to cocaine use at something like 96%. Correlation between "AIDS" and HIV is only in the mid-80s percent. Some people choose to believe that a known Immunodepressant could be a cause
"Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant." Marijuana is a flower plant (to be specific, a female flower bud). Tobacco is a leaf plant.
As a drug, neither plant makes use of any part of the root.
Both the marijuana buds and the tobacco leaves are plant parts. All plant parts are made of plant cells and other structures like plants fibers, gums etc. They all contain the necessary elements of life, which include minerals. These minerals / elements like potassium, phosphorous, sodium, magnesium, silica (silicon plus oxygen), do not vaporize during burning, so they are left behind as ash. In sum, they are both equally plant parts that contain minerals that are left behind as ash after burning.
They are also made of organic matter which consists of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and occasional additional elements. This organic matter can be burned to gases. But what would be the point of smoking carbon dioxide and water gases, for example?
The purpose of burning marijuana bud and tobacco leaf is to heat the plant material to vaporize the active (drug)
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Friday, June 14, 2019 4:33 AM
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Current strains of marijuana have been bred to contain as much as 25% by weight (sometimes more) pure THC (as opposed to mixed cannabinoids), more than earlier strains.
In Colorado the legal weed is quite tripindicular. I visited some friends in Boulder a few years ago who use the stuff recreationally. I took a hit on a joint, ONE hit, ONE LOUSY HIT, and I was high as a kite for two days! It might as well have been heroin as strong as it was. I guess if you smoke it on a regular basis you build up a tolerance for it. Visitors beware! Scary!
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Friday, June 14, 2019 5:10 AM
Quote:Aside from the fact that we don't yet have significant numbers of people who've toked weed every day for the last 30 years as an equivalent to compare to smokers (and that's a huge exception), anything can block x-rays, or let them through, depending on their relative x-ray density compared to normal tissue. That's how doctors, radiologists etc can find pneumonia (fluid, bacteria) and soft-tissue tumors (breast cancer / mammograms), and estimate the size of the heart (for example) with x-rays. You don't need mineral deposits to see soft-tissue changes by x-ray.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When tobacco lungs are X-Rayed, what is the component blocking the radiation from passing through? Are you saying pot lungs block just as much radiation as tobacco lungs?
Are you describing 1970 research study as still in preliminary stages, 49 years later?
In 1970 the federal government classified marijuana as a schedule 1 drug. Virtually no research has been done since then. And I discount early studies because they were often done with an agenda (reefer madness!! anyone?), because science hadn't acquired the tools available now, and because small numbers of subjects made getting meaningful results difficult.
Marijuana has become a significant research subject only recently, meaning that results are preliminary.
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Friday, June 14, 2019 5:44 AM
Quote:I'm somewhat boggled as to where to start.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You didn't really point out that pot use leads to a condition which is now called "bipolar" - which is a term used to justify the prescribing of psychotropic drugs to treat this "bipolar" caused by pot. Yes, treat drug addiction by amplifying with more drugs!! What a genius idea!! It is possible that you must become stoned to truly relish the logic behind such a practice.
Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant.
I won't go into effects of alcohol at this point, it has a rich history of physiological effects. In America, it has a history flowing from the Western Frontier. During Expansion, many water supply sources were going to make you sick, knock you out of work. Alcohol, whether still bottled, or poured into a clean glass, usually did not have enough germs to make you ill.
Tobacco as a root plant, has a multitude of minerals within it. When inhaled and stuck to the inside of the lungs, these minerals are deposited in the lungs. The Earth is full of "background radiation" as well as radiation from space, or Sun. Rocks, stones, and minerals give radiation a place to transition. This bombardment of radiation, which normally passes through us, encounters minerals in the lungs, and provides a transition to cancer. As a leaf plant, marijuana does not intake these minerals, and I have not heard of lung cancer resulting from marijuana usage.
The official study on marijuana was conducted by University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 1970's. It found that "moderate use" caused suppression of the immune system, but severe use or abuse caused Immunodepression and damage to the Immune System. Damage was caused by each instance of severe use or abuse, and repeated abuse accumulated the damage. Of course, the human body can repair damaged systems, but continued abuse of marijuana prevents the body from repairing the Immune System while it is being assaulted, and causing permanent damage to the Immune System.
This level of moderate usage was found to be 3 joints of 1970-era caliber marijuana.Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Continuing after my interruption:
As a result of breeding for more concentrated potency, by 1990 the equivalent Level of abuse/severe use was 1/3 of a joint. By 2000, the equivalent level of abuse/sever use was 1/10 of a joint, By now, it is a fraction of 1/10 of a joint. Anything more than that is permanently damaging your Immune System.
Ever heard of "Acquired" Immune Deficiency Syndrome? The correlation between "AIDS" and pot use is something like 92%, second only to cocaine use at something like 96%. Correlation between "AIDS" and HIV is only in the mid-80s percent. Some people choose to believe that a known Immunodepressant could be a cause
"Marijuana is a leaf plant. Tobacco is a root plant." Marijuana is a flower plant (to be specific, a female flower bud). Tobacco is a leaf plant.
As a drug, neither plant makes use of any part of the root.
Both the marijuana buds and the tobacco leaves are plant parts. All plant parts are made of plant cells and other structures like plants fibers, gums etc. They all contain the necessary elements of life, which include minerals. These minerals / elements like potassium, phosphorous, sodium, magnesium, silica (silicon plus oxygen), do not vaporize during burning, so they are left behind as ash. In sum, they are both equally plant parts that contain minerals that are left behind as ash after burning.
They are also made of organic matter which consists of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and occasional additional elements. This organic matter can be burned to gases. But what would be the point of smoking carbon dioxide and water gases, for example?
The purpose of burning marijuana bud and tobacco leaf is to heat t
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Friday, June 14, 2019 5:47 AM
Quote:Aside from the fact that we don't yet have significant numbers of people who've toked weed every day for the last 30 years as an equivalent to compare to smokers (and that's a huge exception), anything can block x-rays, or let them through, depending on their relative x-ray density compared to normal tissue. That's how doctors, radiologists etc can find pneumonia (fluid, bacteria) and soft-tissue tumors (breast cancer / mammograms), and estimate the size of the heart (for example) with x-rays. You don't need mineral deposits to see soft-tissue changes by x-ray.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When tobacco lungs are X-Rayed, what is the component blocking the radiation from passing through? Are you saying pot lungs block just as much radiation as tobacco lungs?
Are you describing 1970 research study as still in preliminary stages, 49 years later?
In 1970 the federal government classified marijuana as a schedule 1 drug. Virtually no research has been done since then. And I discount early studies because they were often done with an agenda (reefer madness!! anyone?), because science hadn't acquired the tools available now, and because small numbers of subjects made getting meaningful results difficult.
Marijuana has become a significant research subject only recently, meaning that results are preliminary.
That is amazing that everything the study found has been confirmed over the past 49 years. Amazing coincidence. Now coincidence is a euphemism, but in past technology Coincidence Gates were merely positive tests for confirmation of separate but overlapping events.
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