Trump's Trade Wars - another disaster

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Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:05 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Well, great for you then.

My only question is, if it's going so awesome for you, what the fuck do you care?

Don't bother answering, idiot. It goes without saying, but because I'm talking to somebody with a low double digit IQ I'll point out that it was rhetorical.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, lots of insults, but there no sign that you understand what is wrong with Trump's trade war. Mexico and the US agreed on border policies months before Trump’s tariff threat. Trump made the tariff threat for show. After taking the economy hostage, Trump gloated about backing down on Mexican tariffs. Trump was just counting on Mexico surrendering for the greater good, like the real mother in the Judgment of Solomon, rather than see innocent people suffer at the hands of a sociopath.
www.cnn.com/2019/06/08/politics/nyt-trump-mexico-agreed-deal-months-ag
o/index.html

6ix, there is also no sign that you understand what is wrong with a 600-lb person. Or 300 pounder. There are a hundred million Americans that are not freakishly large enough to deserve a TV episode, but they are making the same mistakes as the 600 pounders. The TV show makes it perfectly clear that these people need to, and can, fix their own problems before they have surgery. Surgery only makes it easier for the problem to stay fixed for the rest of their lives. The typical Republican needs to stop being stupid about who is causing their personal problem: it is not the government -- it is themselves. 6ix, the Federal government can't fix you even if Trump is reelected.
Adult Obesity www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ix, lots of insults, but...

Shut up. All you do is insult people with every post.

Quote:
6ix, there is also no sign that you understand what is wrong with a 600-lb person. Or 300 pounder. There are a hundred million Americans that are not freakishly large enough to deserve a TV episode, but they are making the same mistakes as the 600 pounders. The TV show makes it perfectly clear that these people need to, and can, fix their own problems before they have surgery. Surgery only makes it easier for the problem to stay fixed for the rest of their lives. The typical Republican needs to stop being stupid about who is causing their personal problem: it is not the government -- it is themselves. 6ix, the Federal government can't fix you even if Trump is reelected.

Unlike you, I don't lie to everybody about the circumstances in my life. I'm pretty much an open book in these parts.

I'm doing just fine. Don't worry about me. Feel free to read about it in the garden and rain thread. You're welcome to join us in conversation there if you can behave like a human being for five minutes before you post there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:28 PM

Letters sent from prison by the former Irish mob boss detailed his love for President Donald Trump and annoyance at the Mueller probe.

The former mob boss said he enjoys Trump's war against the media and that the President has his vote in the next election.

James "Whitey" Bulger wrote on a number of topics ranging from the first lady to the news media to Trump's foreign policy efforts.

“History may show Trump was the man of the hour,” Bulger wrote. “Feel China respects him and hesitant to try to bully him.”

Bulger also talked about Mueller, who led the FBI at a time when rogue agents had protected mob bosses like Bulger.

"Trump is experiencing what Mueller and company can orchestrate," Bulger said last September. "[Mueller] should observe biblical saying - 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'"

More at Fox News www.foxnews.com/us/whitey-bulger-praised-trump-prison-letters

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Shut up. All you do is insult people with every post.

6ix, interestingly, Whitey Bulger's fellow prisoners beat him to death. I wonder why? Could it have something to do with Trump? I often wonder why no one in Indiana has beaten you to death. Is it because you hide inside most of the time with no contact on the outside?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Letters sent from prison by the former Irish mob boss detailed his love for President Donald Trump and annoyance at the Mueller probe.

The former mob boss said he enjoys Trump's war against the media and that the President has his vote in the next election.

James "Whitey" Bulger wrote on a number of topics ranging from the first lady to the news media to Trump's foreign policy efforts.

“History may show Trump was the man of the hour,” Bulger wrote. “Feel China respects him and hesitant to try to bully him.”

Bulger also talked about Mueller, who led the FBI at a time when rogue agents had protected mob bosses like Bulger.

"Trump is experiencing what Mueller and company can orchestrate," Bulger said last September. "[Mueller] should observe biblical saying - 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'"

More at Fox News www.foxnews.com/us/whitey-bulger-praised-trump-prison-letters

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Shut up. All you do is insult people with every post.
6ix, interestingly, Whitey Bulger's fellow prisoners beat him to death. I wonder why? Could it have something to do with Trump? I often wonder why no one in Indiana has beaten you to death. Is it because you hide inside most of the time with no contact on the outside?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

More likely it's because Indiana is a state that always votes a Republican for president.

You'll actually find that almost the entire country does outside of large cities.

But I do take your meaning though. Wacko left wing extremists are extremely violent people, and Trump Derangement Syndrome hasn't been making them any nicer these last few years.

If you ever feel the urge to leave your cows roaming free and fly out to Indiana and give it a try yourself though, I'm your Huckleberry.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, June 9, 2019 7:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

More likely it's because Indiana is a state that always votes a Republican for president.

You'll actually find that almost the entire country does outside of large cities.

But I do take your meaning though. Wacko left wing extremists are extremely violent people, and Trump Derangement Syndrome hasn't been making them any nicer these last few years.

If you ever feel the urge to leave your cows roaming free and fly out to Indiana and give it a try yourself though, I'm your Huckleberry.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yes, 6ix, the Republicans will remain in control of the Federal government by the design of the Founding Fathers, slaveholders Washington, Jefferson and Madison. California’s 40 million people get two senators, while two Senators also represent states like Wyoming (578,000 people), Vermont (626,000 people), and Alaska (737,000 people). The 8 senators from California, Texas, Florida, and New York represented more people than the 68 senators from the smallest 34 states, which includes Indiana. It was a very clever design which has made the Federal government not a Democracy ruled by the majority. 68 Senators is a veto proof number that can do/stop pretty much whatever they please, leaving the majority of Americans out of luck at the Federal level of government.

www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2019/4/9/18300749/senate-problem-elec
toral-college

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 9, 2019 7:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

More likely it's because Indiana is a state that always votes a Republican for president.

You'll actually find that almost the entire country does outside of large cities.

But I do take your meaning though. Wacko left wing extremists are extremely violent people, and Trump Derangement Syndrome hasn't been making them any nicer these last few years.

If you ever feel the urge to leave your cows roaming free and fly out to Indiana and give it a try yourself though, I'm your Huckleberry.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yes, 6ix, the Republicans will remain in control of the Federal government by the design of the Founding Fathers, slaveholders Washington, Jefferson and Madison. California’s 40 million people get two senators, while two Senators also represent states like Wyoming (578,000 people), Vermont (626,000 people), and Alaska (737,000 people). The 8 senators from California, Texas, Florida, and New York represented more people than the 68 senators from the smallest 34 states. It was a very clever design which has made the Federal government not a Democracy ruled by the majority. 68 Senators is a veto proof number that can do pretty much whatever they please, leaving the majority of Americans out of luck at the Federal level of government.

www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2019/4/9/18300749/senate-problem-elec
toral-college

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

So I guess that's a no on the invite then.

Cool by me. Let me know whenever you're feeling like a real cowboy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So I guess that's a no on the invite then.

Cool by me. Let me know whenever you're feeling like a real cowboy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The closest I every came to Indiana is a month at the Marathon refinery in Canton Ohio. My impression was that the entire state was rusty iron and cracked concrete, but long work days in January didn't leave much time for sightseeing. I think Ohio needed to rebuild their man-made world and do it right this time instead of cheap. Rebuilding would create a lot of jobs and prosperity, but the Republican controlled states won't start until the Federal government provides free money from the larger and more successful economies like California and Texas. I doubt that will happen so long as Republicans are in a position to veto it in the Senate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 9, 2019 9:23 PM

How fortuitous for you. Looks like the government is saving somebody today after all.

If you ever change your mind and wanna find hell with me, come on up to Indiana and I'll show you what it's like.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 9, 2019 11:53 PM

Trump recently negotiated a trade deal with Mexico — a deal barely different from NAFTA, which Trump had called the “worst in history”. The whole point of trade deals is that they’re supposed to provide some certainty. The USMCA, like NAFTA, amounts to a promise by all three participants that they won’t arbitrarily impose new barriers to cross-border trade.

Then Trump went ahead and threatened major new tariffs on Mexico, not because it had violated its trade agreements, but because he didn’t like something that was happening on the border, a situation that has nothing to do with trade policy. So the USMCA appears, in practice, to be a solemn promise by the U.S. government not to impose tariffs on Mexican products … unless it feels like it.

And then, after all the dire warnings of what would happen if Mexico didn’t give Trump what he wanted, Trump appears to have backed down in return for a declaration that Mexico will do pretty much exactly what it had already promised to do before the threats: www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html

Now, the business world is extremely pleased that the trade war appears to have been called off. But it does look as if a Trump threat is worth about as much as a Trump promise: There’s no particular reason to believe that he’ll actually go through with it.

The only thing we can be sure of is that whatever happens, Trump will claim to have achieved a great victory: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
5:03 AM - 8 Jun 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1137329348409778177

In the case of the Mexican standoff, this may not seem too bad. But think about what it means when foreign leaders know that the President is:

(a) gullible
(b) easily susceptible to flattery and
(c) eager to proclaim victory, and unwilling to admit that he didn’t actually get anything significant.

Basically, this turns America into a systematic chump. Hold a summit, flatter Trump’s vanity, let him issue a communique claiming vast achievement, then go on doing whatever you wanted to do. Just ask North Korea’s Kim, who snookered Trump into thinking he’d made major concessions, went right back to building up his nuclear attack capacity, and still gets praised by Trump as our allies watch in horror.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Monday, June 10, 2019 7:19 AM

I keep looking for the trade war disaster that 'Crunchy as a brick' posted about, that presumably happened sometime before Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:35 PM. Where is it?

Or maybe our champion farter can tell us all when it's supposed to happen in the future rl, instead of in Crunchy's fevered imagination. But despite looking very, very closely for that precious OT prediction, all I find are more farts from the farter ... about everything BUT the actual topic.

How about it, farter? Any predictions when this trade war disaster is supposed to unfold?

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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