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Vice President Pence spoke to the West Point graduating class on Saturday, and amid the standard congratulations and tributes to the graduates, he said something truly shocking:
Quote:Let’s pause and consider what this means. Pence is saying not just that more wars are inevitable, but that they are inevitable soon. Let’s not forget that while many of those who attend the service academies go on to careers in the military, many do not. They have an eight-year commitment after graduation — five years on active duty and three in the reserves.
It is a virtual certainty that you will fight on a battlefield for America at some point in your life. You will lead soldiers in combat. It will happen.
Some of you will join the fight against radical Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some of you will join the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific, where North Korea continues to threaten the peace, and an increasingly militarized China challenges our presence in the region. Some of you will join the fight in Europe, where an aggressive Russia seeks to redraw international boundaries by force. And some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere.
And when that day comes, I know you will move to the sound of the guns and do your duty, and you will fight, and you will win. The American people expect nothing less.
So, wherever you’re called, I urge you to take what you learned here and put it into practice. Put your armor on, so that when — not if — that day comes, you’ll be able to stand your ground.
So the vice president announced to these young men and women that within the next eight years, they will all see combat. In fact, Pence sees America waging war everywhere very soon, whether it’s “the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific,” “the fight in Europe” or somewhere in Latin America. As for Iraq and Afghanistan, Pence is saying that there will be no end to not just American presence but American combat in those places.
And, who knows, if we’re lucky we’ll get a new invasion before long! Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), one of President Trump’s closest advisers on Capitol Hill, said on Fox News Sunday this weekend that “I would give Cuba an ultimatum to get out of Venezuela. If they don’t, I would let the Venezuelan military know, you got to choose between democracy and Maduro, and if you choose Maduro and Cuba, we are coming after you. This is in our backyard.”
More at www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/27/mike-pence-predicts-war-eve
rywhere-next-few-years/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Wait? Pence is part of the Establishment War Machine? Ya don't say?
That's the guy you've said on quite a few occasions in the last month that you want running the country now.
Changing your mind?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I haven't changed my mind. I am a big believer that people (Trump, Pence, 6ix) who don't learn their lessons in life need to be punished harder and harder until they either do or they die. Sorrowfully, that's not how things are run inside America, but when you leave the country, you can get yourself killed for being stupid or incompetent or lazy. I'd really like to see the Republicans start a war, run it incompetently as Donald Rumsfeld did, lose it like in Iraq, then lose the next election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wait? Pence is part of the Establishment War Machine? Ya don't say?
That's the guy you've said on quite a few occasions in the last month that you want running the country now.
Changing your mind?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Why America doesn’t win wars anymore
An expert explains why the US struggles with modern wars.
www.vox.com/2018/2/15/17007678/syria-trump-war-win-interview
The US can still successfully fight the wars of yesteryear — World War-style conflicts — but hasn’t yet mastered how to win wars against insurgents, which are smaller fights against groups within countries. The problem is the US continues to involve itself in those kinds of fights.
We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home. That’s not what war is like now.
Trump himself recognized this: He said on the campaign trail numerous times that we used to win wars and we don’t win anymore. And he has promised to turn the page on this era of defeat and said that we were going to get sick and tired of winning. I doubt him.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Another non answer.
Sometimes I wonder why I'm the only person here who even bothers engaging in conversation with you anymore.
I think it's time to put an end to that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Sometimes I wonder why I'm the only person here who even bothers engaging in conversation with you anymore.
I think it's time to put an end to that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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The Congressional Research Service has analyzed the 2017 Republican tax bill and concluded that it had no noticeable effect on GDP, consumption, domestic investment, or wages. None of the Republican arguments in favor of the tax act were offered in good faith anyway, so it’s no surprise that it had little to no effect on the economy. The real goal of the tax act was to reduce the taxes of rich people. Rep. Chris Collins explained things elegantly: “My donors are basically saying, ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again.'”
The numbers are here:
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/05/chart-of-the-day-heres-what-cor
porations-did-with-their-tax-cut/
Congress’s official think tank finds the Republican tax cuts helped corporations, not workers.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/29/18642928/trump-tax-cuts-and-
jobs-act-analysis
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Bernie Sanders Is Not That Rich for Someone His Age
Bernie Sanders has lived most his adult life in the middle class. But thanks to the book he published in 2017, he is now a millionaire. And because the Vermont senator has spent his career railing against the power of the rich, some writers have wondered if his newfound wealth somehow undercuts his political message.
There are many things that make this whole pseudo-controversy a bit silly. But one of them is that Sanders really isn’t that wealthy for somebody his age. His level of affluence is normal for a college-educated American in his 70s.
Even if Sanders was a member of the wealthiest 1 percent, I don’t think it would really make him a hypocrite. The man wants to make America look a bit more like a Scandinavian social democracy, and last I checked, Swedes and Norwegians don’t have any problem with authors earning a payday. They just tax more of it. But the bottom line is that Sanders’ rhetoric about millionaires and billionaires has always been a shorthand for the power of extreme wealth, the kind that can buy political influence.
More the wealth curve for senior citizens in the 80th through 99th percentiles of household wealth among Americans age 65 or older at https://slate.com/business/2019/05/how-rich-is-bernie-sanders-wealth-c
omparison-millionaires.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I think it's time to put an end to that.
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I think it's time to put an end to that.
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I think it's time to put an end to that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&mid=10766
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