Matrix vs. Firefly
POSTED BY: reginaroadie
UPDATED: Thursday, July 14, 2016 06:09
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It's funny you should mention Back to the Future 3. Not only is it my fave of the three BBTF movies, but it's actually the movie that made me want to be a filmmaker. I saw it when I was about five or six, and the train sequence to me is more thrilling than most of the action movies I've seen combined.
Whenever I hear someone verbally bitchslap that movie, I'm like Mal in an Alliance friendly bar.
"NO HAI ES BANDAI. THERE IS....NO.....BAND. AND YET....WE HEAR A BAND."
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Originally posted by zoid:
Zeek wrote:
Serenity, on the other hand, is not about the nature of reality (and it damned well better never turn into that, either)
Unfortunately, I think you're wrong. In Serenity we're going to find out that River is, in fact, a fellow inmate inhabiting the same asylum as Buffy, and the Firefly verse is her schizophrenic fantasy. Further, in the yet to be announced Buffy movie, we will find out that a few year earlier Buffy was sufficiently aware of River to incorporated her into the Sunnydale world as none other than Oz!
Or maybe not...
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The Matrix flicks were basically knock offs of Dark City and Tron, with a whole lot of philosophic psychobabble thrown in
--Jefé The Hat
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--Don't bother trying to predict, figure out, second guess, criticize, or suggest anything that comes from the mind of Joss Whedon, for you shall usually be wrong, and shall find out the Truth and Purpose in due time.
(This is the Truth of Whedoning)
"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne
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Prepare for a brief rant..
The Matrix trilogy failed for me because I went to the 2nd movie thinking even if the story wasn't great , at least the cgi would be good.
Well, it was so bad I was actually insulted that the producers would think what they put on the screen was acceptable to the masses. That's right,insulted!It was a visual piece of caca! I've seen better renderings done on an Amiga!
Thats right, I said an Amiga!
I never bothered to see the final movie. rant over.
Anyway, I just can't think of Matrix and Serenity in the same class. I understand your concern though. We do want a trilogy if Joss can get it done. At least we know he won't go back and change the series footage 25 years later and repackage it.
About the boards, I've wondered about that too.
In fact after being at cons and informing people about the BDM and our fandom and how to join, visit sites etc., I worry about trolling and the like. Some days I don't want to share our shiny sites at all! I dont think anyone hasn't wondered what will happen.
I'd just like to mention, I find it diffucult to post after the Zoid because, well, theres not a whole hell of a lot left to say. :D (that would be a complement)
...except your bit about Wash...
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Wash comes to Serenity because -- regardless his magnetic personality, sophisticated demeanor and very fine moustache -- women avoid him like the plague; he figures on Serenity, he'll have a captive audience with no where to run, no where to hide; turns out, he figured right.
What a perfect description.
I am Nathan's biggest Flan
Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)
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Serenity must stay true, because its already great it doesn't need all those gimmicks like Lucas did with star wars
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.except your bit about Wash...
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Wash comes to Serenity because -- regardless his magnetic personality, sophisticated demeanor and very fine moustache -- women avoid him like the plague; he figures on Serenity, he'll have a captive audience with no where to run, no where to hide; turns out, he figured right.
What a perfect description.
What a perfect description? How do ya figure ? Not that I'm discounting this assesment, but just where is it that we find Wash having trouble w/ the ladies? He's a pilot, for starters, Everyone KNOWS that behind pro athletes and entertainers, pilots are tops on the babe magnet meter. Wash , at least to Mals knowledge, is highly sought after for his pilot skills. And Wash has been out and about some in the 'verse, so I find it somewhat a stretch to think that the ONLY reason he takes the job on Serenity is to get cozy w/ this yet unknown warrior woman? Yeah, he does seem a bit taken w/ her, but hey... as I said before..he's a pilot! He prob thinks she digs him, just because ......he's a pilot!
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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AURaptor:
There's an old joke told in USAF ATC circles:
Q: "What's the difference between a porcupine and an F-15?"
A: "With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside."
This joke is an adaptation from an original one, which assassinates the character of Porsche drivers.
And no, I don't think women were hopping into Ho's bed based strictly on him being a pilot. Didja see the moustache? Hoban's an incurable nerd! (*zoid self-consciously sweeps his toy dinosaur collection into desk drawer*) He's a luh-hoo...zuh-her! (*zoid holds index and middle finger to his forehead, in the shape of a vee*)
Illustratively,
zoid
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River summed up the whole Matrix theme in "Objects in Space."
Quote:
MAL: Am I dreaming?
RIVER: We all are.
River isn't "broken." She's a Lucid.
Quote:Joss help me, for a split second I thought you were speaking Chinese.
Originally posted by zoid:
He's a luh-hoo...zuh-her!
Perhaps there is such a thing as too much Firefly. . .
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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The Matrix WAS a planned triogy. I thought the first was good. The second was really fast paced and that highway sequence was awesome. The 3rd was a big let down.
One thing I noticed watching Ariel was when Mal or Wash (cant remember) asked kaylee to find the building schematics to give them directions was very Matrix'y.
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Everybody's hatin' on the Matrix. I loved the movies, all of them. I did not love 2 until I saw 3 and understood what 2 was trying to say. You have to watch the last two as a pair to really understand it.
I think a lot of people went into those movies expecting them to show you a hero like the first one, overcoming some great challenge and scoring some great big victory. And the Wackowskis are to blame for that. They mislead us as to the direction of these films. Because Neo is not the hero everybody was expecting, and the story didn't have the big glorious victory we were all waiting for. Instead, it questioned our purpose for being, what makes us human and our willingness to sacrifice for others. And it pissed people off, especially when they didn't get the point of it all.
And that's why I love those movies, flaws and all. It challenged our expectations the way Firefly does. It just used a whole lot more CGI.
"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."
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