Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.
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The growing partnership between Russia's government and cybercriminals
The release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report did nothing to lessen the country's partisan divide. However, U.S.intelligence officials agree that Russia's cyber espionage efforts constitute one of the greatest threats to the nation. Trump does NOT agree.
www.cbsnews.com/news/evgeniy-mikhailovich-bogachev-the-growing-partner
ship-between-russia-government-and-cybercriminals-60-minutes/
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The latest I heard was that WAPO discovered that Russian hackers infiltrated a Florida voting district. Only thing, they don't know which one. The details I heard were sketchy at best, but I'll try to found out more and pass it on.
At least I can speak to those here with a modicum of intelligence, and not these half-assed, supposed "intelligent" Putin ass-kissers who cite ZeroHedge.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
The growing partnership between Russia's government and cybercriminals
The release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report did nothing to lessen the country's partisan divide. However, U.S.intelligence officials agree that Russia's cyber espionage efforts constitute one of the greatest threats to the nation. Trump does NOT agree.
www.cbsnews.com/news/evgeniy-mikhailovich-bogachev-the-growing-partner
ship-between-russia-government-and-cybercriminals-60-minutes/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I found this online:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/17/has-russia-hacked-in
to-floridas-election-system-theres-no-evidence/?utm_term=.fe04a70b680a
But, apparently, despite the fact that this is an old story (from August 2018), it seems that "we" cannot relax. Russia is still up to it's old tricks.
This is Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
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Nelson: “Right now. Senator Rubio and I have written a letter together to all 67 of the county supervisors of election. He is a member of the Intelligence Committee; I am the ranking member of the Cyber subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee. We were requested by the chairman and vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee to let the supervisors of election in Florida know that the Russians are in their records. … Two senators — bipartisan — reached out to the election apparatus in Florida to let them know that the Russians are in the records, and all they have to do, if those election records are not protected, is to go in and start eliminating registered voters.”
further down in the article:
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“And you can imagine the chaos that would occur on Election Day when the voters get to the polls and they say, ‘I’m sorry, Mr. Smith. I’m sorry, Mr. Jones. You’re not registered.’ ‘Well, here’s my registration card.’ ‘Well, I’m sorry, you’re not in the registration records.’ Well, you can imagine. That’s exactly what the Russians want to do. They want to sow chaos in our democratic institutions. Every intelligence agency in the United States government has said that they are going to try to disrupt the 2018 elections, just like they did in 2016.”
We want to be clear here: This fact check is not about the U.S. intelligence community’s assessment and the bipartisan consensus that Russia plans to interfere in the 2018 elections, as it did in 2016. It is about Nelson’s specific claim that Russia has access to voter rolls in Florida.
SGG
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Trump is a big fan of Fox News and often praises the network’s journalists and commentators. But Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano has recently spoken up quite a bit against Trump, particularly after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s redacted report. “I am disappointed in the behavior of the president,” Napolitano said earlier this week. “If he had ordered his aides to violate federal law to save a human life or to preserve human freedom, he would at least have a moral defense to his behavior,” he added. “But ordering them to break federal law to save him from the consequences of his own behavior, that is immoral, that is criminal, that is defenseless, that is condemnable.” He also published a scathing op-ed earlier this week that said Mueller “laid out at least a half-dozen crimes of obstruction committed by Trump.”
What is Trump going to do to Napolitano? Lie about him, laughing that nobody can verify Trump’s stories without Trump's help, so the news has to, absolutely, accept Trump's lies as truth:
President Donald Trump slammed Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano on Saturday night, accusing the former judge of getting angry when the commander in chief refused to nominate him to the Supreme Court. Trump also claimed that he rejected a request to pardon one of Napolitano’s friends.
In a pair of tweets after his campaign rally in Wisconsin, Trump said that Napoitano had become “very hostile” toward his administration after he rejected his requests. “Ever since Andrew came to my office to ask that I appoint him to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I said NO, he has been very hostile! Also asked for pardon for his friend. A good ‘pal’ of low ratings Shepard Smith,” the president said, referring to another member of Fox News who has been more critical of Trump.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/trump-judge-andrew-napolit
ano-supreme-court-pardon.html
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apparently "S""G""G", you missed the important part of the headline which says "There is no evidence". Instead, you dig down deep into the article which quotes two idiots (Nelson, Rubio) and their idiot opinions, deomonstrating once again that you can't tell the difference between evidence and accusation.
This is very much like the presumed "hack" of the DNC server. How do we "know" that it was "hacked"? Because Crowdstrike* told us so!
Not only is there NO EVIDENCE that the ANY of the computers were "hacked" by ... anyone ... there is possible evidence that the DNC files were in fact copied onsite by someone with "legitimate access".
Now, what kind of "evidence" would be available?
1) Computer logfiles, which show which ports are accessed, and when. Even if the relevant logfiles were erased, they would leave a blank spot in the record. And in the case of the DNC compuer "hack", if someone were expert enough and had access enough (root access) to do that, they wouldn't be stupid enough to embed Russian-looking change codes in the document stylesheets themselves.
If no files were transmitted to or from a Florida computer in question, the tipoff about this supposed "hack" would be in the logfiles, which are obtained by someone with root access querying the computer directly.
2) NSA interception. The NSA surveils packets that cross our national boundaries; for all I know this surveillance is universal. The files would be transmitted in "packets" and each "packet" has a header which lists the source and destination addresses of the "packet". Each file requires many "packets" and there were many files; I haven't calculated how many "packets" that would require but it would be in the tens of thousands ... this would not have been a small transmission ... and all the NSA wouldhave to do is capture ONE. Which they never did.
Do you really think that anyone could make the claim that the Russians had "hacked" "a" system in Florida and NOT KNOW WHICH ONE? Because you would have either had to have a logfile or a transmission, both of which would mean the computer in question would be known.
I REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL CONCERNED, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR YOU, GSTRING, SEONDRATE, THGR, TWITCHY, AND REAVERBOT, TO THINK ABOUT THE NATURE OF "EVIDENCE"
*A private computer security firm employed by the DNC, which refused to turn over the computer to the FBI for independent examination!
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Quote:Trump welcomed Russian help in 2016 and he wants more in 2020. Despite what a Russian troll might say, Mueller made it very clear Trump received help.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is very much like the presumed "hack" of the DNC server. How do we "know" that it was "hacked"? Because Crowdstrike* told us so!
Not only is there NO EVIDENCE that the ANY of the computers were "hacked" by ... anyone ... there is possible evidence that the DNC files were in fact copied onsite by someone with "legitimate access".
www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment
The 12 Russian names from Mueller’s indictment
1) Viktor Borisovich Netyksho,
2) Boris Alekseyevich Antonov,
3) Dmitriy Sergeyevich Badin,
4) Ivan Sergeyevich Yermakov,
5) Aleksey Viktorovich Lukashev,
6) Sergey Aleksandrovich Morgachev,
7) Nikolay Yuryevich Kozachek,
8) Pavel Vyacheslavovich Yershov,
9) Artem Andreyevich Malyshev,
10) Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk,
11) Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin, and
12) Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev
2. Defendants were GRU officers who knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other, and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury (collectively the “Conspirators”), to gain unauthorized access (to “hack”) into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, steal documents from these computers, and stage releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
3. Starting in at least March 2016, the Conspirators used a variety of means to hack the email accounts of Volunteers and employees of the U.S. presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton (the “Clinton Campaign”), including the email account of the Clinton Campaign’s chairman.
4. By in or around April 2016, the Conspirators also hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee. The Conspirators covertly monitored the computers of dozens of and DNC employees, implanted hundreds of files containing malicious computer code (“malware”), and stole emails and other documents from the DCCC and DNC.
More at www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment
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Those named Russians were placed on a list based on a "hack" which has not yet been demonstrated. You can repeat the list of names over and over again, but it does not add to the weight of evidence, they are merely additional details on an as yet unproven accusation. All it would require to create this list is to go to the GRU org chart and start checking off names, no evidence is required for their inclusion.
Go back to the original evidence of the "hack", SECONDRATE. Since the DNC refused the FBI access to their computer we don't have direct, unconflicted evidence of this so-called "hack" ... there are no independently-verified log files that I know of, no NSA-intercepted transmissions (not even one packet out of tens of thousands).. and of course the named GRU officers will never appear in USA court, so the indictment will never be tested.
What there is are statements by both Craig Murray and Julian Assange that the source was not a Russian, that the source is personally known to them, that the file transfer rates and "last modified" timestamp and file format all typical of local copy to a USB stick, plus some hinky file modifications in Guccifer2.0' files (which btw do not appear in Assange's) which some say are deliberately embedded to create the appearance of having been modified in a Russian-language word editor. (Why anyone would edit these files is beyond me, apparently the edits were random and purposeless.)
It is a common trick of propagandists, liars, and prosecutors to make their allegations so heinous and/or so detailed that they evoke feelings of outrage and/or trust, but these are not EVIDENCE.
If you have any EVIDENCE ... you DO know what evidence is, do you not? ... please bring it forward for discussion, and stop harping on details of the allegation which so far appear to be groundless.
Oh, BTW... Trump was JOKING. Even I, humorless as I am, recognized snark when I heard it. Jeez, you're fucking clueless.
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Quote:Rosenstein informed the president, and the world, before Trump talks to Putin one-on-one that his own Justice Department is prepared to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, in public, using admissible evidence, that the president of the Russian Federation has been lying to Trump about Russian non-involvement in the 2016 election hacking.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Those named Russians were placed on a list based on a "hack" which has not yet been demonstrated.
www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment
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It's a cheap statement to make if they know they'll never have to back it up in trial.
OK, so then let them write a report with the evidence in it. In fair trial they'd have to show their evidence to the accused anyway, so ... no loss there. Go public, I say, and stop with the allegations.
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Quote:When the indictment came out in 2018, Putin's response was that these GRU intelligence officers did not exist, nobody in Russia had those names, and it is against Russian law to deport them to America for a trial if they did exist. He was doing then what Signym is doing today. Smooth move, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a cheap statement to make if they know they'll never have to back it up in trial.
OK, so then let them write a report with the evidence in it. In fair trial they'd have to show their evidence to the accused anyway, so ... no loss there. Go public, I say, and stop with the allegations.
https://theintercept.com/2018/07/18/mueller-indictment-russian-hackers/
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