Dems, Dem-lites and Independents, who ya backing at this point and why?
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UPDATED: Monday, June 3, 2024 14:53
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I also find it rather telling that JSF hardly ever insults me unless the topic of pot comes up. Then he behaves exactly like the "Libtards" on this forum that he so despises. You noticed that yourself.
JSF is a rule junkie because he can't figure out for himself what is right or wrong, I doubt it has much to do with a traumatic pot-related experience.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, you can't ignore the negative effects of pot, just as ... JSF you cant ignore the positives. It's not like they cancel out.
It's like ANY drug ... it has pluses and side effects. You have to be aware of both.
All I can do is talk about my personal experience with pot, relative to other drugs, and to how these things effected people I know. I'm not a doctor. I never said I was. Find me ANYTHING that is good for you if used without moderation. Food. Work. Leisure. Hell... you can actually die if you drink too much water.
I smoked weed every single day that I was working jobs making over 50k and 60k per year. I smoked weed every single day I was power lifting in my early 20's and was a 200lb brick shit house.
Conversely, I nearly let alcohol kill me. I can't imagine that my 23 years of smoking cigarettes is doing me any favors either.
I've lost friends to harder drugs, such as cocaine and heroin. Some died. Some eventually went to prison. Others I just had to sever ties with and I have no idea where they're at now. Those that only smoked pot, I still have a relationship with all these years later.
One thing that I think people who don't smoke pot at all are influenced by is seeing people on TV and movies get stoned out of their gourds. I'm not going to lie and say that my friends and I didn't do that back in our day, but if I were smoking today I'd never do that now.
In the last 15 or so years, when I did smoke, a single ounce would last me around 2 1/2 months. That's roughly a $60 bag, that I'd occasionally puff out of a hitter box several times a night after work... more on the weekends. When I smoke too much, I get paranoid. But just a little hit every few hours when it's time to relax really clears the mind. It just makes everything feel and smell and taste better. If I'm working on my hobbies and projects, or working around the house, I'm able to super focus on them. If I'm talking with friends, the conversations are more stimulating.
I think JSF's problem here is that when he hears about somebody smoking weed, he imagines Snoop Dogg rolling up an entire ounce of weed in a blunt and smoking until he's retarded.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Anyway...
Buttigieg continues to impress me, but that doesn't always mean he'd make a good president, or that he'd beat Dump. Good article here:
https://www.wired.com/story/pete-buttigieg-revived-south-bend-with-tec
h-up-next-america/
Swalwell is also impressive - smart guy with experience in gov.
Both of them are a bit young. Both of them are much better human beings than Trump, it's night and f*cking day.
Fwiw: Sometimes the problem isn't the candidates, it's the dumb @ss voters. I harp about consumers being as big a part of the problems with commerce & markets & good & services - same deal.
Here's the list so far and some comments:
Cory Booker - eh, no way
Pete Buttigieg - very impressed
Julian Castro - great dude, character and compassion, but I don't see it.
John Delaney
Tulsi Gabbard - nah
Kirsten Gillibrand - love her conviction, but I don't see it.
Mike Gravel
Kamala Harris - she's kind of a downer imho
John Hickenlooper
Jay Inslee
Amy Klobuchar - great person, not a president
Wayne Messam
Beto O'Rourke - too preachy, too hipster
Tim Ryan - my man from Ohio. Great ideas, great connection to the working class, but not this time
Bernie Sanders - great ideas but too old
Eric Swalwell - only negative is his flatline charisma.
Biden - too old
Elizabeth Warren - also great ideas and conviction, but she'd never get the votes
Marianne Williamson
Andrew Yang - Nah
Mr. Starbucks - ya gotta be kidding
There's a lot to like & respect in many of these people, a lot of great ideas and passion, but I'm not seeing anyone that I feel confident could beat Orange Dump.
It's early yet.
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Hmm... interesting list.Just OOC, of the people that you listed as "not seeing it/ not this time" it's because you think they won't get the votes, correct? Why do you supposed that is?
What is it that you like about Buttigieg? Does he have specific positions/ history that particularly appeal to you, over all of the other choices? I admit, I never heard of him before, and name recognition counts for a lot.
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OK, I looked him up. Here's what I found out about him:
He's the youngest mayor of a city over 100,000. (South Bend, Indianna)
He served in the naval reserves for seven months, separated from the military and came out as gay
Smart enough to get a Rhodes scholarship (just like Bill Clinton)
Reversed the population decline of South Bend
Appeals to millenials, likes Instagram
Wants to raise the minimum wage and is for Medicare for all
That leaves a lot of unknowns:
How did he reverse the population decline of South Bend? Did he attract more jobs? If so, what kind?
What does he think about military spending, and our endless wars abroad?
What does he think about the budget deficit, our infrastructural decay, and manufacturing deficit?
Climate change?
How does he intend to pay for "Medicare for all", and preserve jobs if the minimum wage increase causes loss of jobs?
Immigration?
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Why the "nah" for Yang, CC?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyway...
Buttigieg continues to impress me, but that doesn't always mean he'd make a good president, or that he'd beat Dump. Good article here:
I just don't see it happening. I step out the front door and ask myself how many of these people would vote for a gay man and the answer is a resounding "not enough."
And of the ones that wouldn't mind if he's gay and vote for him, how many wanna watch guys be gay on TV for four years?? Even less.
The plus side, I would look forward to an era of good decorating
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why the "nah" for Yang, CC?
Wondering myself. The man wants to give $1000 a month to every adult in a kind or wealth restructuring because corporations are sucking it all up and he has a very good point about almost 60% of the population is paycheck to paycheck. My neighbors have three kids and two decent jobs and she's been begging the use of my car because they have NO savings and NO credit and her van died. The older kids will both be driving age by next year and they can't afford them to drive.
I think $1000 bucks a month is never going to work, but unfortunately...people like my neighbors are the rule rather the exception these days. Several of my kids friends won't be driving until 18 or later. Just keeping a vehicle running is crazy crazy expensive. We've spent $60k on vehicles ourselves in 10 years, with the four accidents....Sure we got a about half that back from insurance, but it's been a struggle for us to keep up with repairs.
My kiddo should be getting her license in the next couple months and her friends are jealous. I think that's odd. It doesn't help driver's ed isn't taught IN school anymore.
I feel bad for Millennials. They really are going to have the worst financial time since the 20's.
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Quote:You don't follow Homosexual Politicians?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hmm... interesting list.Just OOC, of the people that you listed as "not seeing it/ not this time" it's because you think they won't get the votes, correct? Why do you supposed that is?
What is it that you like about Buttigieg? Does he have specific positions/ history that particularly appeal to you, over all of the other choices? I admit, I never heard of him before, and name recognition counts for a lot.
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Quote:Didn't Millennials just vote for destroying jobs in the Midterm Elections? They vote to wreck the Economy and destroy jobs, they get to reap the benefits - they being the most deserving.
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why the "nah" for Yang, CC?
Wondering myself. The man wants to give $1000 a month to every adult in a kind or wealth restructuring because corporations are sucking it all up and he has a very good point about almost 60% of the population is paycheck to paycheck. My neighbors have three kids and two decent jobs and she's been begging the use of my car because they have NO savings and NO credit and her van died. The older kids will both be driving age by next year and they can't afford them to drive.
I think $1000 bucks a month is never going to work, but unfortunately...people like my neighbors are the rule rather the exception these days. Several of my kids friends won't be driving until 18 or later. Just keeping a vehicle running is crazy crazy expensive. We've spent $60k on vehicles ourselves in 10 years, with the four accidents....Sure we got a about half that back from insurance, but it's been a struggle for us to keep up with repairs.
My kiddo should be getting her license in the next couple months and her friends are jealous. I think that's odd. It doesn't help driver's ed isn't taught IN school anymore.
I feel bad for Millennials. They really are going to have the worst financial time since the 20's.
This is why I don't feel bad for them being the cause of their own prophecy.
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