In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just a word of caution: DVDs do not keep indefinitely. We've had some DVDs become unplayable after 10 years or so, and these were stored properly and not mishandled or scratched. we do have a lot of pollution here, including ozone, so maybe our DVDs deteriorate faster here than eleswhere. But if you really want to keep those movies for the foreseeable future, you might want to copy them to a hard drive or something.
https://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4908081/ns/technology_and_science-games/t/wh
en-optical-discs-go-bad/
I didn't know that for a fact, but I had always assumed that to be the case. There probably is no current single solution to preserve a movie indefinitely.
A friend recently wanted to know how to convert his DVDs to a digital collection. I'd helped him out a few times with computer related stuff, so he figured I'd know. I didn't.
He was willing to pay, but was hoping to find a free alternative. I managed to find two ad-free programs with unlimited use to do the trick. One rips the complete movie to a .VOB file which (I believe) is lossless in quality. It takes about 2 hours to rip Jurassic Park, which was a 2 hour movie. I think that's just a coincidence and my old tech is really slow. I don't believe it would take 2 hours to do on a good new computer. The output file was just under 5GB.
The second program is a compression program. This is where it gets time consuming, and you have to ask yourself if it's worth the money to buy larger hard drives to store the full VOB files, or if it's worth your time to compress them into MP4 files. It took around another 6 1/2 hours to do the compression. The final file looks just as good to me and was only slightly larger than 1 GB.
Really, if you were going to do this on any sort of grand scale either way, you'd have to get yourself into a routine where you tried to get one started before you sleep or before you go to work or something. It's kind of out of the question for me at the moment since my old beast is largely my go-to form of entertainment these days, and weighing it down with either of these processes makes youtube or any other streaming stutter.
If anybody would be interested in the names of these programs, feel free to ask. I'd have to get you the direct legitimate link to the first program though since the last update was around 2004 and a lot of copycat websites that offer downloads with a lot of malware have popped up over the years to spring their traps on the unwitting.
If you were to back up your DVDs in such a manner, you could still keep the physical DVDs in storage, and even if they were to go bad, they'd be your "receipt" of sorts to prove that you had a genuine copy you paid for.
It's not as if that's something to really worry about in 2019 America, but who knows when they'll be able to bust down your door to ask if you have permission to that digital copy of Captain Marvel you're currently watching.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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"The second program is a compression program." I've read that compression routines make music sound sadder, but I never looked into how. But if it's a movie that you really enjoy for the music, perhaps it's best to skip the compression.
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Quote:Yesterday we had 70s for the first time this year. Snow for today and tomorrow, into Friday. Reports of blizzards.
Originally posted by Brenda:
Rain today.
And I wish that I could stop knocking over a particular coffee cup and spilling its contents.
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Quote:What?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just a word of caution: DVDs do not keep indefinitely. We've had some DVDs become unplayable after 10 years or so, and these were stored properly and not mishandled or scratched. we do have a lot of pollution here, including ozone, so maybe our DVDs deteriorate faster here than eleswhere. But if you really want to keep those movies for the foreseeable future, you might want to copy them to a hard drive or something.
https://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4908081/ns/technology_and_science-games/t/wh
en-optical-discs-go-bad/
How are DVDs different than CDs?
Are they fogged?
How don't they play? Start of movie, middle scenes, end? Table of contents?
When you say no scratches, you mean also no scuffs?
DVDs don't play only on your player, or also on any other players?
I have DVDs older than 15 years, no problems.
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We have some DVDs that don't paly but others do. It's not a player problem, its a disc problem.
Don't forget, we live in a polluted area ... worst in the nation. Bad ozone. And ozone is what chews up the metallic/ dye layer that stores the info. Maybe that's what happened to our DVDs.
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Quote:Unsealed Discs?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We have some DVDs that don't paly but others do. It's not a player problem, its a disc problem.
Don't forget, we live in a polluted area ... worst in the nation. Bad ozone. And ozone is what chews up the metallic/ dye layer that stores the info. Maybe that's what happened to our DVDs.
How is ozone accessing the data layer near the center, the hub? The center of the disc is where the start of the data/film is located, and the index or ToC.
I don't know that I believe this.
How far out are the data on the discs that don't work? Many works per disc, or only one film, one version, single side?
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Originally posted by rue:
"The second program is a compression program." I've read that compression routines make music sound sadder, but I never looked into how. But if it's a movie that you really enjoy for the music, perhaps it's best to skip the compression.
Yeah. I failed to mention that.
I've never really had an ear for that kind of stuff. I listened to nothing but mp3's exclusively since about 1998 and it's never bothered me. I know people who say they notice the difference though and prefer an uncompressed format. I also know people who prefer records over anything digital as well.
Personally, I'd just go with the compression since hard drive space is still somewhat prohibitively expensive if you have a large collection, especially if you want to back everything up a second time. My reasoning for this is because if we're talking DVD backups, you're already working with a collection that is inferior in every way to BluRay anyhow.
It's all about convenience vs. quality, I suppose. I'd rather just have everything in one single networked drive that any of my TV's or video game consoles could easily access and pull up on the fly.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Yesterday we had 70s for the first time this year. Snow for today and tomorrow, into Friday. Reports of blizzards.
Originally posted by Brenda:
Rain today.
And I wish that I could stop knocking over a particular coffee cup and spilling its contents.
Blizzards are not good.
Got more rain here today.
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Nothing to do with anything, but I saw an episode of 77 Sunset Strip with Shatner in it. I specifically watched because I was curious how he was as an actor before he decided to be a scene stealing hack. Less than average. Anyway, in this episode he gets into an extended fisticuffs with Stu (Zimbalist Jr), and they even had the same music as Star Trek - that vaguely imperial Roman gladiator music with brass and percussion. I swear Roddenberry stole it entirely. But in this show, Kirk - I mean Shatner - loses. And on top of it, he fails to get his shirt off.
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Another Midwest "bombogenesis"?
Jayzus Christmas! In addition to getting massively flooded, with half of Nebraska under water and millions of calves dead ...
You guys have my sympathy!!
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