Dems, Dem-lites and Independents, who ya backing at this point and why?
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Quote:I agree.
If one wants to help "repair" blacks in America, one should legalize weed and stop putting the fathers in prison for 25 to life for selling it.
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
EVERY substance you regularly inject, inhale, slather on, ingest has potential positives and negatives, it just takes years to pin them down because they affect in so many different ways and at vastly different rates.
100 years ago if a person decided not to work too much they could get dead fairly easily, hence the "rap". I wouldn't call that undeserved, if the effects are real.
I'm not going to argue that everything is great about it. As you said though, it's not as bad as alcohol, and I don't think we'd argue with each other when I say that it's not as bad as cigarettes either.
It also effects different people differently. And who knows, maybe that's not even true and it's because there's about a hundred thousand different batches that you can have that will effect you differently. When you buy it off the street, not only do you have no idea where it was grown and what chemicals were used to grow it, but you have no idea if the dealers weighed it down with anything from orange juice to hairspray.
I argue that not only should it be legal, but you should also be allowed to grow several plants of your own in your tomato garden like some states have already allowed. That way you know exactly what strains you're using, you can keep it chemical free, and you know that some shady dealer hasn't put any additives in it to make it heavier at the point of sale.
Oh... and BTW, JSF, I haven't smoked in years now. As long as they refuse to legalize it on a national level, I'm not risking the admittedly very small chance that a job that pays well enough for me to consider working full time comes along.
I'm also wondering what horrible thing somebody you cared about did while smoking weed that makes you so adamant against it. You're honestly the only person online or IRL that I know that thinks the way you do about it in 2019.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You pretend to be a veritable expert on pot.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
EVERY substance you regularly inject, inhale, slather on, ingest has potential positives and negatives, it just takes years to pin them down because they affect in so many different ways and at vastly different rates.
100 years ago if a person decided not to work too much they could get dead fairly easily, hence the "rap". I wouldn't call that undeserved, if the effects are real.
I'm not going to argue that everything is great about it. As you said though, it's not as bad as alcohol, and I don't think we'd argue with each other when I say that it's not as bad as cigarettes either.
It also effects different people differently. And who knows, maybe that's not even true and it's because there's about a hundred thousand different batches that you can have that will effect you differently. When you buy it off the street, not only do you have no idea where it was grown and what chemicals were used to grow it, but you have no idea if the dealers weighed it down with anything from orange juice to hairspray.
I argue that not only should it be legal, but you should also be allowed to grow several plants of your own in your tomato garden like some states have already allowed. That way you know exactly what strains you're using, you can keep it chemical free, and you know that some shady dealer hasn't put any additives in it to make it heavier at the point of sale.
Oh... and BTW, JSF, I haven't smoked in years now. As long as they refuse to legalize it on a national level, I'm not risking the admittedly very small chance that a job that pays well enough for me to consider working full time comes along.
I'm also wondering what horrible thing somebody you cared about did while smoking weed that makes you so adamant against it. You're honestly the only person online or IRL that I know that thinks the way you do about it in 2019.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Let's check if you know the basics.
When the Government had a University study marijuana, what were the health effects found to be?
BTW, it was a University that you may have visited.
And, if you are able to give an accurate answer, did you know that before today?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Let's check if you know the basics.
He doesn't read, he only youtubes...and youtube only does science if it can burn or blow up something.
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Pot is not "harmless"... it DOES have an effect on people's brains ... that's why they ingest/smoke/vape it!
OTOH, it's not a Class 1 Drug either. It should either be legalized AND REGULATED, or possession should be reduced to a misdemeanor.
I personally don't like pot. In fact, I absolutely hate that "free floating" effect.
And modern pot strains are so much stronger than the old-fashioned ones. Maybe there should be a limit on total cannabinoids. The dose makes the drug: Nobody ever got addicted chewing coca leaves, but concentrate it and make it inhalable so it hits your system all at once and POW!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Pot is not "harmless"... it DOES have an effect on people's brains ... that's why they ingest/smoke/vape it!
OTOH, it's not a Class 1 Drug either. It should either be legalized AND REGULATED, or possession should be reduced to a misdemeanor.
I personally don't like pot. In fact, I absolutely hate that "free floating" effect.
And modern pot strains are so much stronger than the old-fashioned ones. Maybe there should be a limit on total cannabinoids. The dose makes the drug: Nobody ever got addicted chewing coca leaves, but concentrate it and make it inhalable so it hits your system all at once and POW!
Thank you, Sigs.
Somebody here that actually worked in the field.
I've never been a professional. I just have plenty of life experience, and I've seen up close and personal how pot effects people compared to other drugs.
At the end of the day, alcohol and cigarettes are far more dangerous to anybody than weed is. Alcohol is still legal because they tried to make it illegal and it failed miserably. Cigarettes are legal because it's a giant source of government revenue and the economy would likely implode overnight if they stole that golden egg laying goose from themselves. The only reason that they're legalizing weed on a state by state basis today is because of greed... not because they suddenly got "woke" on the issue.
Bottom line is, you can get it anywhere, anyhow. I'd argue that it's much easier to acquire than alcohol and cigarettes are... particularly for kids.
Nobody asks you for your photo ID to verify your age when selling you weed on the black market.
If it were made legal to grow, at least you would know exactly what's going into it and know it wasn't weighed down with chemicals. If it were legal to buy from dispensaries, you would have your choice of different strains and potency that were grown in uniform batches so it wouldn't be a random bag of whatever-the-fuck every time you picked one up.
And you were doing so good Wishy. Having a legitimate adult conversation for almost two days on the subject. I was going to comment on that before, but I knew it was just a matter of time before the other shoe dropped.
And, that's not an answer to my question, JSF.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Any 'drug' - alcohol, nicotine, pot - should be illegal before the age of 21. But then, I think you should be 21 before you can join the military or be in any position where you can either kill or be killed, or go to an adult jail, or buy violent video games or watch violent shows.
Sadly, we haven't been able to fix the causes of violence in the community or in the home.
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Quote:So, you cannot answer, you have no clue about the basic facts of pot, you avoid your failures by not even bothering to try to answer.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You pretend to be a veritable expert on pot.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
EVERY substance you regularly inject, inhale, slather on, ingest has potential positives and negatives, it just takes years to pin them down because they affect in so many different ways and at vastly different rates.
100 years ago if a person decided not to work too much they could get dead fairly easily, hence the "rap". I wouldn't call that undeserved, if the effects are real.
I'm not going to argue that everything is great about it. As you said though, it's not as bad as alcohol, and I don't think we'd argue with each other when I say that it's not as bad as cigarettes either.
It also effects different people differently. And who knows, maybe that's not even true and it's because there's about a hundred thousand different batches that you can have that will effect you differently. When you buy it off the street, not only do you have no idea where it was grown and what chemicals were used to grow it, but you have no idea if the dealers weighed it down with anything from orange juice to hairspray.
I argue that not only should it be legal, but you should also be allowed to grow several plants of your own in your tomato garden like some states have already allowed. That way you know exactly what strains you're using, you can keep it chemical free, and you know that some shady dealer hasn't put any additives in it to make it heavier at the point of sale.
Oh... and BTW, JSF, I haven't smoked in years now. As long as they refuse to legalize it on a national level, I'm not risking the admittedly very small chance that a job that pays well enough for me to consider working full time comes along.
I'm also wondering what horrible thing somebody you cared about did while smoking weed that makes you so adamant against it. You're honestly the only person online or IRL that I know that thinks the way you do about it in 2019.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Let's check if you know the basics.
When the Government had a University study marijuana, what were the health effects found to be?
BTW, it was a University that you may have visited.
And, if you are able to give an accurate answer, did you know that before today?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you were doing so good Wishy. Having a legitimate adult conversation for almost two days on the subject. I was going to comment on that before, but I knew it was just a matter of time before the other shoe dropped.
"He doesn't read" ISN'T an attack, it's truth. You deny ANYTHING you don't personally see yourself and you don't believe written laws and principles of science because you (AGAIN) lack the personality to validate to YOURSELF what already is proven fact.
Personality, meaning: set of traits that allow intellectual function.
You have a mental disorder. Not kidding, not attacking.
If you could put your broken ego aside you could see it and fix it.
You stopped drinking, you got a job, now UNDERSTAND SCIENCE. Pick up a book fer crissakes...
Black holes exist, weed ISN'T all good for you, and this planet is shaped like a lumpy lemon.
There's yer starting point.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, you cannot answer, you have no clue about the basic facts of pot, you avoid your failures by not even bothering to try to answer.
I asked you who smoked pot that you cared about that fucked you over to make you have such a hardon for it.
You answered my question with a question of your own.
You answer first.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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