Dems, Dem-lites and Independents, who ya backing at this point and why?
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UPDATED: Monday, June 3, 2024 14:53
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Originally posted by rue:
I'll use the word 'profit' more formally in the future - to indicate a business gain above and beyond expense,
But it sounds to me like you agree: that profit and worth aren't the same, and profit shouldn't be used to evaluate worth.
Nope, I understood exactly what you meant, just know enough about profit to know you can't paint it as the motivator or the evaluator in EVERYTHING.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
...and disgusted that Booker would buy into it.
Where ELSE were they going to get money, Republicans???
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6900495/Cory-Booker-introduce
s-legislation-set-commission-reparations-slavery.html
Booker may have just shot himself in the foot with white people...and ME.
Mark my words, "reparations" will start another civil war. Or just more white people sniping black people in groups. Hope it'll be worth it for something long dead.
What a fool - he's out, no loss. He was always one of the lessor candidates.
How would one even begin to calculate such a "repayment" anyway? Would you have to prove you had relations that were slaves, or is this just a broad calculation? Would you have to be 100% black? There have been many generations since slavery, I'm sure there has been much mixing of races. The concept has always seemed bizarre to me, but I'm not black. I am part Irish though, plenty of poor treatment there! Do I get a slice of that pie?
Better to focus on current and future human rights and racial equality, than spend the time trying to fix the past imho.
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Quote:There were literally dozens of reforms that Booker could have made without prostituting the Newark school system to Zuckerberg. But that would have meant crossing the teachers union amd kicking out undperperforming administrators and staff, and closing some schools in favor of others and maybe even getting on parents' asses to support their kids' education.
...and disgusted that Booker would buy into it.- SIGNY
Where ELSE were they going to get money, Republicans???
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"Reparations"? Yeah, for what? One side of my family didn't move here until 1920 and the other side until 1948. What the hell do I, or my family, have to do with the past injustice of slavery? Where did we benefit? Taking that logic further ... what about the descendants of families who fought on the Union side? what do THEY have to do with slavery (except maybe helping end it)? If the descendants of slaves are due reparations what about the descendants of Union soldiers? Do they get a bonus? And even descendants of slave-holders? If they're fighting prejudice, why should they be punished for something their great great grandaddy did?
The crimes of slavery were committed by people long-past. You can't punish people today for something that happened a long time ago.
How about we just root out prejudice wherever we find it* (which btw still exists) and make sure that everyone has an equal education up to college?
Jeezuz, what whiny bullshit.
* And that means blacks against whites as well as whites against blacks, blacks against browns, whites against whites, women against men and men against women, and ... most importantly ... the rich against everyone else.
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If one wants to help "repair" blacks in America, one should legalize weed and stop putting the fathers in prison for 25 to life for selling it.
The War on Drugs and Bill Clinton's bill in 1994 did more harm to black families in America than anything else.
They'd also have to take the profit out of prisons first. It's gross to think how much money prisoners have made that end up going into political campaigns.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If one wants to help "repair" blacks in America, one should legalize weed and stop putting the fathers in prison for 25 to life for selling it.
Not so fast. As much as I think weed is better than booze, weed still has plenty of negatives. Just today there was a study that found that women that used it for morning sickness had babies that have fewer neurons in the memory sections of the brain. That's a biggie. It would also explain why people who use it regularly before 27-ish are more apathetic and less competent because your brain isn't done forming connections to those areas until then. And according to recent traffic studies in states where weed is legal, there ARE more accidents and people on weed are more likely to be on OTHER substances when arrested for DUI.
Maybe we should make it legal for people who can prove they cannot procreate or drive. Less people, more buses...win win.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
What a fool - he's out, no loss. He was always one of the lessor candidates.
How would one even begin to calculate such a "repayment" anyway?
Better to focus on current and future human rights and racial equality, than spend the time trying to fix the past imho.
Not sure I would count him out entirely though, have seen a few comments going his way. I think a lot of people saw him on Ellen.
I've never seen how that could even begin to be established either. Maybe they all know it and they keep bringing it up to get the fringe votes of people who think they're gonna get free stuff...
It's been a while since I mentioned it, but my step-father is black, ex-cop. Truly one of the nicest people I know on the planet, and that's one of the reasons he couldn't stay a cop. Back when all the black face stuff was going on couple months ago I was talking about it with mom and she said he could care less, so to test that theory I got out the Halloween kit and used three tubes of black paint (not cartoonishly, I actually did look like a black woman) and sent him a pic... Mom said he was eating dinner when she showed him and he choked laughing and she thought he was going to have a heart attack laughing himself to death... Couple days later I get a whiteface mom did on HIM. What's funny is he said I looked like one of his cousins and he looks a bit like one of my mom's cousins.
Like I said, great guy. And that's the way it should be, we should all be able to laugh at the differences. Not absolving people who put on KKK hoods and did picture spreads of their stupidity, but people that are just playing around others should just get over it.
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If one wants to help "repair" blacks in America, one should legalize weed and stop putting the fathers in prison for 25 to life for selling it.
Not so fast. As much as I think weed is better than booze, weed still has plenty of negatives. Just today there was a study that found that women that used it for morning sickness had babies that have fewer neurons in the memory sections of the brain. That's a biggie. It would also explain why people who use it regularly before 27-ish are more apathetic and less competent because your brain isn't done forming connections to those areas until then. And according to recent traffic studies in states where weed is legal, there ARE more accidents and people on weed are more likely to be on OTHER substances when arrested for DUI.
Maybe we should make it legal for people who can prove they cannot procreate or drive. Less people, more buses...win win.
I've never heard of any studies like you're stating here. I do agree that you probably shouldn't be able to use it until you're out of high school though.
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
Take a look at this list of corporations that fund the Partnership for a Drug Free America and ask yourself how many of them could stand to lose a lot of money if weed is considered for the legitimate medicinal properties it has.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/pdfa1.htm
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
EVERY substance you regularly inject, inhale, slather on, ingest has potential positives and negatives, it just takes years to pin them down because they affect in so many different ways and at vastly different rates.
100 years ago if a person decided not to work too much they could get dead fairly easily, hence the "rap". I wouldn't call that undeserved, if the effects are real.
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Quote:As long as you keep yourself stoned, you will continue to never hear of real studies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If one wants to help "repair" blacks in America, one should legalize weed and stop putting the fathers in prison for 25 to life for selling it.
Not so fast. As much as I think weed is better than booze, weed still has plenty of negatives. Just today there was a study that found that women that used it for morning sickness had babies that have fewer neurons in the memory sections of the brain. That's a biggie. It would also explain why people who use it regularly before 27-ish are more apathetic and less competent because your brain isn't done forming connections to those areas until then. And according to recent traffic studies in states where weed is legal, there ARE more accidents and people on weed are more likely to be on OTHER substances when arrested for DUI.
Maybe we should make it legal for people who can prove they cannot procreate or drive. Less people, more buses...win win.
I've never heard of any studies like you're stating here. I do agree that you probably shouldn't be able to use it until you're out of high school though.
Weed's gotten a bad rap for almost a hundred years now.
Take a look at this list of corporations that fund the Partnership for a Drug Free America and ask yourself how many of them could stand to lose a lot of money if weed is considered for the legitimate medicinal properties it has.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/pdfa1.htm
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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