Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.
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Why is this thread still going? Doesn't post after post of outraged denial and rationalization get kinda stale after a while?
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
What's funny is that people expected Mueller, who has a long history of being a fascistic motherfucker, to suddenly be a good guy.
Mueller was a man who spread fatal myths about Iraqi WMDs, targeted and infiltrated radical environmental groups, concocted elaborate plots to entrap Muslims in fake terrorism cases and ran roughshod over basic constitutional rights while he was a top federal prosecutor and FBI director.
The fix was in. The Dems will investigate, but they're so bad at being effective.
Now he gets it!
I've been saying that about Mueller since the beginning.
Maybe you didn't hear me because I'm a Nazi?
lol
Thanks for also proving my prediction right that you guys would turn on Mueller like you did on Comey too, Marcos.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.
If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."
I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."
I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.
Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.
You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.
You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.
That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.
If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."
I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."
I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.
Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.
You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.
You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.
That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.
Unredacted to congress, dolt.
I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.
If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."
I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."
I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.
Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.
You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.
You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.
That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.
Unredacted to congress, dolt.
I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Here's your post. Show me where it says unredacted to Congress.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."
I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."
I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.
That reads as if an unredacted report that the Undecideds could read would be persuasive. I don't give two shits if that's not what you meant.
Learn how to write.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Long before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report found that the Trump campaign had not colluded with the Russian government, Felix Sater's name emerged in what seemed — on its face — to be direct evidence of such an effort.
“I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected,” Sater famously wrote in a November 2015 email to Michael Cohen, then Trump’s personal attorney, that was first published in the New York Times. “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it…I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”
That wasn’t collusion, Sater told The Intercept in an interview last week. “It’s called marketing. It’s giving both sides what they want.”
Eventually, Sater was called in to explain that to the prosecutors in Mueller’s office. While he declined to discuss the details of that interview, he did describe an exchange with Andrew Weissmann, one of Mueller’s senior prosecutors, during the meeting.
“What the hell is it with these emails?” Weissmann asked, according to Sater. “You really know how to be on the front page, don’t you, Felix?”
If Weissmann’s tone sounds casual and even jocular, it might be because the two men have known each other for 20 years. Weissmann supervised the 1998 stock fraud case that originally brought Sater into the government’s orbit as a cooperator. He is not the only member of Mueller’s team who goes way back with Sater. FBI Special Agent William McCausland who worked on former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn’s prosecution, handled Sater as early as 2003, after he became an informant. (“One of the hardest-working and best FBI agents I’ve ever worked with,” Sater said of McCausland.) Other former Eastern District prosecutors who were detailed to the special counsel include Zainab Ahmad and Greg Andres, who served as chief of the office’s criminal division at the time Sater was sentenced.
Peter Carr, the spokesperson for the special counsel’s office, declined to comment.
Sater’s history as an informant who worked with members of the special counsel’s team, coupled with his position at the center of the Trump-Russia story, raises the question of whether the Russia investigation was, ultimately, a circular exercise.
More at https://theintercept.com/2019/03/31/felix-sater-trump-russia-mueller-r
eport/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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As Felix Sater struggled to get Trump Moscow off the ground, he discovered a problem with the Trump brand, he told The Intercept.
“It had no value,” he said. “They didn’t want to pay Trump the licensing fee because they’re like, ‘Who the hell is Trump in Russia? Who knows him?’”
The solution materialized nearly a decade later when Trump’s 2016 campaign began to get traction, Sater said.
“When he started running and he started saying good shit about Putin and Putin started saying good shit about him and he started to get great ink in Russia, I was like, ‘Perfect,’” Sater said. “This is probably a perfect opportunity to get a Trump Tower Moscow done.”
The potential conflicts of interest triggered by a leading presidential candidate doing a secret multimillion-dollar business deal with help from a foreign power didn’t concern him.
“I wasn’t running,” Sater said. “I don’t need to worry about the morality of, ‘should a candidate be involved in business?’”
He dismissed any notion that the deal “was trying to give leverage to the Russians so they could Manchurian candidate our president. I was trying to make money.”
Sater wasn’t the only one, he said. The Trump Organization planned a global expansion after the election, which Trump and everyone around him assumed that he would lose.
“They were sitting there thinking about the 27 towers and the 27 different places they were going to build after the election,” he said. “Do you honestly think they were sitting there and saying ‘Who’s going to get the West Wing and who’s going to get the East Wing?’”
The Trump Organization did not respond to a request for comment.
More at https://theintercept.com/2019/03/31/felix-sater-trump-russia-mueller-r
eport/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Donald Trump Claims Everyone Knew About Secret Russian Deal No One Knew About
Asked to comment on his former lawyer’s confession in federal court that the Trump Organization had secretly negotiated with the Russian government during the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump attempted to sell the American people an outrageous lie.
“Everybody knew about it, it was written about in newspapers, it was a well-known project,” Trump claimed, falsely, about his company’s covert effort, “during the early part of ’16 and I guess even before that,” to develop a luxury skyscraper with help from Putin’s office and a former general in Russia’s military intelligence service.
In fact, the existence of such a project, which was being negotiated in secret during the entire span of the Republican primary campaign — from at least October 2015, when Trump signed a letter of intent with a Russian developer, through January 2016, when Cohen called an aide to Putin’s spokesperson, until some time after Trump secured the nomination in June — was not known about or reported at the time. There was no indication in the outline of Cohen’s confession sketched out by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Thursday as to why the proposed deal was dropped, but the timeline might offer a clue. Cohen suddenly backed out of a trip to Russia arranged by the Kremlin on the afternoon of June 14, 2016 — about three hours after the Washington Post revealed that Russian hackers had penetrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee and stolen documents related to the election.
The Moscow project only became public knowledge the following year, after Trump’s inauguration as president. It was briefly mentioned in a 2017 New York Times report about another covert scheme also involving Cohen and Felix Sater, a convicted former FBI informant and longtime fixer for the Trump Organization with deep ties in Russia.
https://theintercept.com/2018/11/29/donald-trump-claims-everyone-knew-
secret-russian-deal-no-one-knew/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
What's funny is that people expected Mueller, who has a long history of being a fascistic motherfucker, to suddenly be a good guy.
Mueller was a man who spread fatal myths about Iraqi WMDs, targeted and infiltrated radical environmental groups, concocted elaborate plots to entrap Muslims in fake terrorism cases and ran roughshod over basic constitutional rights while he was a top federal prosecutor and FBI director.
The fix was in. The Dems will investigate, but they're so bad at being effective.
Wow reaver, the perspective you have is not workable. Wait for it, it's coming. Fighting Trump with the same tactics that he employs destroys the rule of law and other institutions needed to have a successful democracy.
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Quote:The only rule of law that counts is election day on Tuesday of November. All the investigations are just fuel for gossip about Trump because the 2019-2021 Senate term will never remove Trump. Only general election voters might do the job that GOP Senators have sworn to their Republican primary voters never to do.
Originally posted by THG:
Wow reaver, the perspective you have is not workable. Wait for it, it's coming. Fighting Trump with the same tactics that he employs destroys the rule of law and other institutions needed to have a successful democracy.
Republican Senator Jeff Flake quit the Senate because GOP primary voters would not vote for him. Flake would vote to remove Trump, but no other Republican Senators will.
"Ex-GOP senator Flake hopes a Democrat beats Trump in 2020"
www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/30/ex-gop-senator-flake-hopes-a-democ
rat-beats-trump-in-2020/23703093/
So what lessons should we take from history about prospects to impeach and remove Trump? There are three: 1. barring some truly amazing revelation (maybe videotape of Donald Trump taking money from a Putin agent) a Republican-controlled Senate is not going to remove him from office; 2. conservative domination of the president’s party will increase its solidarity with him; and 3. the atmosphere of partisan and ideological polarization will make defections from Trump even less likely.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/republican-solidarity-will-prot
ect-trump-from-impeachment.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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