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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:1kiki, you are nutty about declaring "no evidence". Trump's lawyer just lied about evidence by saying he did it, not Trump, when the lawyer falsely claimed he wrote the tweet, not Trump, where Trump admits to obstructing justice.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:I keep saying there's no evidence yet, because, as you agree, there is no evidence yet.
Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed.
So, what have you been going on about for nearly a year?
Oh, that's right - the line of propaganda you get paid to push, to help that soft coup along.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet
Mueller should have that lawyer swear an oath that the lawyer wrote the tweet, not Trump, so that the lawyer would go to jail for lying to the FBI when it was proven that Trump, not the lawyer, actually wrote it. But that won't happen because your lawyer cannot be compelled to testify against you. Trump really owes his smart lawyer, John Dowd, an eternal debt for jumping into the fire and saving dumb-ass Trump from burning.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah...
Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make.
I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.
Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”.
“If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement.
Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-hand
ed-over-robert-mueller
Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.
Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime.
The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit.
A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions.
Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods.
“One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers.
The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt.
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-
subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM
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Federal prosecutors reportedly sought bank records related to Jared Kushner's family business
Federal prosecutors have reportedly sought bank records related to White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's family business. It's not clear whether there is any connection between that development and special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-prosecutors-subpoena-deutsche-b
ank-jared-kushner-records-2017-12
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM
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Former Watergate prosecutor: 'Conspiracy,' not collusion, is main issue in Russia investigation
Nick Ackerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, said Saturday that the big issue in special counsel Robert Mueller investigation is not whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia, but whether it conspired to steal emails from prominent figures in the Democratic Party.
"I think the big enchilada here is the conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee in violation of the federal computer crime law and to use those emails to help Donald Trump get elected," Ackerman said on MSNBC.
"All of that is motive as to why Donald Trump and others were endeavoring to obstruct the investigation, and why Donald Trump told [former FBI Director] James Comey to let the investigation on [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn go," he added. "All of this is going to come together in 2018."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-watergate-prosecutor-con
spiracy-not-collusion-is-main-issue-in-russia-investigation/ar-BBHwKHN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:31 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Prevezon’s lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, arranged the meeting with Trump Jr. last year. She had been pushing for a long time to get something done about the Prevezon case. So it's very possible that she went into that meeting with Trump Jr essentially asking for help, in return for which she would give the Trump campaign dirt on Hillary and the DNC.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
The president’s public denunciation of Bannon came only after a report early Wednesday, based on excerpts from a forthcoming book, that quoted Bannon condemning as “treasonous” a June 2016 meeting in which Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, met with Kremlin-linked Russians to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.
“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ... and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately,” Bannon reportedly said.
Several months after Trump takes office, the Prevezon case is dismissed. So what happened? The U.S. attorney was carefully preparing a case against Prevezon Holdings. They were all set to go forward, and then suddenly the case was settled. Prevezon's own lawyers were kind of shocked. We know they paid something like $6 million, which is a fraction of what the lawsuit was about. So they were extremely happy about it.
Do we have any evidence that Trump was involved in any way with Prevezon? We know is that Preet Bharara, the attorney in charge of the case, was fired by Trump in early March, and shortly thereafter the Prevezon case was dropped. They had been ready to prosecute, witnesses were flown in, it was all set to go, and it was settled rather unexpectedly. So I think this is a case that hasn't really entered the public consciousness yet. But I'm sure that special counsel Robert Mueller's team is looking at it.
www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:31 AM
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Trump’s behavior is consistent with two diametrically opposite conclusions. It’s consistent with the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia in some way and is desperate to cover it up. But it’s also consistent with the possibility that Trump is entirely innocent. A person with Trump’s volcanic temper and bottomless feelings of grievance would probably react exactly the way he has if he had done nothing wrong.
So far, all the evidence we’ve seen publicly has come tantalizingly close to obstruction of justice, but has never quite gotten there. But even if it doesn’t, the precise legal definitions of obstruction apply only in a courtroom, not in an impeachment trial. The kinds of things Trump has done are more than enough to constitute a “high crime” if enough members of Congress think it does. At the moment, Republicans prefer keeping Trump in office. But if they ever decide he’s too big an albatross and they’d rather deal with President Pence, Mueller is almost certain to give them enough to make a case with.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM
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Bannon Is Subpoenaed in Mueller’s Russia Investigation
The move marked the first time Mr. Mueller is known to have used a grand jury subpoena to seek information from a member of Mr. Trump’s inner circle. The special counsel’s office has used subpoenas before to seek information on Mr. Trump’s associates and their possible ties to Russia or other foreign governments.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-is-subpoenaed-in-muelle
r’s-russia-investigation/ar-AAuMnx6?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Only 2,634 days left on the Impeachment Clock.
Trump budget funds Mueller probe through fiscal 2019
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-budget-funds-mueller-pro
be-through-fiscal-2019/ar-BBJ31Hy?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp
Personally, I hope Mueller waits until the 2018 elections. I want more democrats in office when he makes his move. And it looks like there are going to be quite a few elected.
Tick tock
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM
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Rick Gates: Top Donald Trump Campaign Aide Will ‘Flip,’ Robert Mueller Russia Probe Closing In, Report Says.
Rick Gates, a top aide to Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election campaign and longtime business partner of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, is ready to strike a plea deal with Russia investigation Special Counsel Robert Mueller, CNN reported on Thursday afternoon. The news appears to be a potential bombshell because a plea agreement likely indicates that Gates is ready to “flip” and provide Mueller with potentially damaging information against Trump, the report said.
https://www.inquisitr.com/4788392/donald-trump-russia-robert-mueller-r
ick-gates/
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:41 AM
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Pay particular attention to the last sentence. Read it twice if you wish. Go ahead have fun, I am.
Trump-Russia inquiry: Manafort under pressure after reports that Gates has flipped
Donald Trump’s former campaign manager is under increasing pressure to cooperate with criminal prosecutors investigating the campaign’s alleged collusion with the Kremlin following reports that his chief lieutenant will testify against him.
Several US media outlets, including the Los Angeles Times and CNN, reported that Rick Gates, a former campaign aide and lobbyist, has struck a deal with Robert Mueller, the special counsel, and will testify against Paul Manafort, his longtime business associate, in exchange for leniency.
Gates has appeared to be a relatively minor figure in the Trump/Russia probe. But if he were to plead guilty to criminal charges connected to his earlier work as a lobbyist for a pro-Kremlin party in Ukraine, including allegations of money laundering, it would set off a chain of events that could bring Mueller’s investigation deep into the White House.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/19/trump-russia-inquiry-p
aul-manafort-pressure-rick-gates
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