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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I agree SECOND if it ends here. That's not going to happen. I believe the scope of this will force the Republicans to act.

The fox report stating Mueller is facing pressure from the republicans is actually fox news trying to create that pressure; fake news. Mueller won't be intimidated as recent events show.

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The question that matters now: what will Republicans do when Trump fires Mueller?

Probably nothing.

A Fox News piece was titled “Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe.”

The message is clear and important: When Trump decides to fire Mueller (and possibly pardon the targets of his investigation) to spare himself and his family from accusations of serious wrongdoing, America’s premier propaganda broadcaster will have his back.

That means that, inevitably, the vast majority of rank-and-file congressional Republicans will also have his back.

The fate of the investigation — and of the integrity of the American political process — will thus rest on the often-frail shoulders of the handful of congressional Republicans who’ve made it clear that they understand the threat Trump poses to the country but have never yet managed to conduct effective, coordinated political action to counter the threat. If they want to forestall disaster, that needs to change. And it needs to happen fast, before Trump plunges us into a new round of crisis.

The threat of a Mueller firing is very real.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16565580/what-if-trump-fire
s-mueller

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM

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If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.

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Originally posted by second:
If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:

It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.
I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I enjoyed your sarcasm. I am however afraid of the damage Trump could do should he serve a full term. It could be catastrophic.

I'd add that the Republicans still have cover. As the indictments come forth and more is revealed that will change. They'll have to act.

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:

It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.
I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM

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Significance of indictments in Russia investigation

Newly released court documents show that Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos communicated with several senior campaign officials about his outreach to the Russian government over a period of months. The recipients of Papadopoulos's emails are not named in the filings, but The Washington Post has identified several individuals based on interviews and other documents. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty this month to lying to federal agents about his outreach to Russia.

"The Campaign Supervisor": Trump campaign national co-chairman Sam Clovis
Victoria Toensing, an attorney for Sam Clovis, confirmed that several references in court filings to "the campaign supervisor" refer to the onetime radio host from Iowa, who served as Trump's national campaign co-chairman.

At one point, Papadopoulos emailed Clovis and other campaign officials about a March 24, 2016, meeting he had in London with a professor, who had introduced him to the Russian ambassador and a Russian woman he described as "Putin's niece." The group had talked about arranging a meeting "between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump," Papadopoulos wrote.

Papadopoulos later learned that the woman was not Putin's niece, and while he expected to meet the ambassador, he never did, according to filings.

Clovis responded that he would "work it through the campaign," adding, "great work," according to court documents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who’s-who-in-the-george-papado
poulos-court-documents/ar-AAuftAJ?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

He was arrested and turned states evidence three months ago. That means he may have been wired and conversed with who knows who in the Trump administration since. By phone or in person he would have discussed Russia. What he and the administration did with the Russians and getting them on tape. Think obstruction of justice as they tried to get their stories straight with him not knowing he was taping the conversation.

And are there more doing the same thing. Where's Flynn and watch Gates. I'm a fan of Bob Mueller.

Tick tock

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM

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Az I understand it, Trump can not directly fire Mueller. He woud haf to fire Sessionz and Rosenstien and replase them with croniez who woud do it.

Not eazy to find sumwun who iz loyal and stoopid enuf to risk prizon. Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prizon!

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Not to worry Joe. SIG and kiki are being shown to be absolute morons, stupid and corrupted when voicing there opinions about anything. A better word to describe them is; trolls.

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM

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Ex-Trump aide: I 'probably' talked Russia with staffer charged in Mueller probe

Former Trump campaign aide Carter Page says he "probably" discussed Russia in emails with fellow ex-staffer George Papadopoulos, who has pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his contacts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-trump-aide-i-probably-talke
d-russia-with-staffer-charged-in-mueller-probe/ar-AAuftu9?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Papadopoulos looks young & pretty cute.
He would be popular in prison.

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Depends on how much information he had to share with Mueller concerning Trump.

Papadopoulos Claimed Trump Campaign Approved Russia Meeting

Former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos made a significant claim in an email: Top Trump campaign officials agreed to a pre-election meeting with representatives of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-31/papadopoulos-claime
d-trump-campaign-approved-russia-meeting

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
SIG, can you see me laughing? Spin the truth all you want in these threads. What's going on in reality is playing out in the real world, not in your diseased little mind. Funny how nothing from the real world backs up the claims you make. Hillary is not under investigation for colluding with the Russians; Trump is. Hillary is not the president, Trump is.

On a side note. I'm sure all Putin's friends are real happy the world is now focused on their money laundering process, and will be taking serious steps to frustrate that. Why, payback for the Russians meddling in all their elections. What goes around comes around. Consider for a moment comrade that Mueller's investigation may lead to charges against many if not all of Putin's friends. Hmmm, he may not be able to go to Russia and get them, but his investigations can cause havoc in their lives.

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THUGR:

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Ex-British spy [was] paid $168,000 for Trump dossier, U.S. firm discloses

A Washington research firm paid a former British spy’s company $168,000 for work on a dossier outlining Russian financial and personal links to Donald Trump’s 2016 election campaign, the U.S. firm said in a statement on Wednesday...

Fusion GPS’ statement said it had told Congress about how $168,000 was paid last year to Orbis Business Intelligence, Steele’s company.

The money paid to Orbis was taken from $1.02 million it received in fees and expenses from the Perkins Coie law firm, the statement said. The law firm represented the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-dossier/ex-british-
spy-paid-168000-for-trump-dossier-u-s-firm-discloses-idUSKBN1D15XH?utm_campaign=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nuzzel

In other words, the DNC and Hillary Clinton, thru their common law firm, paid Russians[s] for "dirt" on Trump.

How is that any different than what the Trump campaign is accused of doing, except that the Trump campaign didn't pay anybody and never got a "dossier" from their abortive contacts?

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