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Trump's Trade Wars - another disaster

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Monday, February 25, 2019 6:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What is with the constant double speak?

Just say, you're right 6.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do you want to be told that you were correct to vote for Trump because he knows what he is doing about foreign trade? But Trump does not. It is Robert Lighthizer who knows what is going on. Trump knows nothing. He is a big fat goddamn ignoramus with too many opinions about things he doesn't understand.
www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/25/donald-trump-clashes-with
-his-own-trade-chief-in-front-of-chinese-delegation-video


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 25, 2019 6:43 PM

Shanghai stocks just had their best day in more than three years after comments from the leaders of China and the United States brought investors piling back into the market.

The benchmark Shanghai Composite (SHCOMP) leaped 5.6% on Monday, its biggest daily percentage gain since July 2015, according to Reuters. That lifted it into a bull market, which is defined as a rise of at least 20% from a recent low.

Some of the encouragement came from US President Donald Trump, who announced that he'll delay a major tariff hike on Chinese exports . . .

The US government was due to hike tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods from 10% to 25% on March 2 if the two sides were unable to reach a deal before then. Trump didn't specify what the new deadline for raising tariffs would be . . .

www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/investing/us-and-china-trade-war-stocks/index.h
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Trump was not specific about anything other than whenever the next time he has a meeting with Xi, it would take place at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. Trump has no idea of what he will be doing, but he will be doing it in Florida.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 25, 2019 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What is with the constant double speak?

Just say, you're right 6.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do you want to be told that you were correct to vote for Trump because he knows what he is doing about foreign trade? But Trump does not. It is Robert Lighthizer who knows what is going on. Trump knows nothing. He is a big fat goddamn ignoramus with too many opinions about things he doesn't understand.
www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/25/donald-trump-clashes-with
-his-own-trade-chief-in-front-of-chinese-delegation-video


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



No. I want to be told that I was correct that Lightheizer is an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about and the guy who wrote the article is an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'll never get you to admit that you're an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:23 AM

Why does this thread seem to get bumped when the Markets are climbing? This time to the highest point in almost 4 months.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. I want to be told that I was correct that Lightheizer is an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about and the guy who wrote the article is an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'll never get you to admit that you're an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A full-scale U.S.-China trade war appears to be on hold, and may be avoided altogether. The bad news is that if Trump does sign a trade deal with China, it will basically be because the Chinese are offering Trump a personal political payoff. What payoff?

Experts were asked what Trump really wants from his trade deal with China; the most popular answer was “tweetable deliveries.”

Sure enough, Trump has been crowing about what he portrays as big Chinese concessions, which all seem to involve China’s government ordering companies to buy U.S. agricultural products. In particular, the postponement of the trade war came after a Chinese pledge to buy 10 million tons of soybeans. This will please farmers.

What China is offering doesn’t at all get at the real U.S. national interests at stake, other than farming. But it does give Trump something to tweet about.

www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/opinion/trump-trade-china.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:53 PM

Ah... so you still can't say I'm right. Noted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah... so you still can't say I'm right. Noted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I do not agree that Lightheizer is the idiot to Trump's genius. I've heard both talk about subjects I have knowledge of. My conclusion is that Trump should be declared mentally incompetent while Lightheizer truly knows about what he speaks. And it's completely stupid for Trump selling out America to China just because the Chinese bought soybeans from farmers that Trump wants to vote for him in 2020.
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/26/trump-lighthizer-china-trade-war-107
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www.politico.com/news/robert-lighthizer

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah... so you still can't say I'm right. Noted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I do not agree that Lightheizer is the idiot to Trump's genius. I've heard both talk about subjects I have knowledge of. My conclusion is that Trump should be declared mentally incompetent while Lightheizer truly knows about what he speaks.



Once again, you're moving the goal posts.

I didn't say anything about Lighthizer's idiocy compared to Trump's genius.


I don't buy that you've followed anything Lighthizer has said about anything outside of this one instance either since you can't be bothered to even spell his name correctly.


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lighthizer's an idiot.

Not only is it "A MOU", not "An MOU", but his definition is comically exactly the opposite of reality when he says “An MOU is a binding agreement between two people,” he said. “It’s detailed. It covers everything in great detail. It’s a legal term. It’s a contract.”


These old idiots need to learn how to Google.

Quote:

A memorandum of understanding (MOU) is a nonbinding agreement between two or more parties outlining the terms and details of an understanding, including each parties' requirements and responsibilities. An MOU is often the first stage in the formation of a formal contract.


https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mou.asp




If you can't admit that Lighthizer was dead wrong here, then I'm just going to end this conversation now because your partisanship is effecting your credibility about anything else you have to say on the matter.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm just going to end this conversation now because your partisanship is effecting your credibility about anything else you have to say on the matter.

6ixStringJack, let’s cut through your superiority complex crap. This is the trade deficit with China for the last three years.

$346,996,500,000 2016
$375,576,400,000 2017
$382,331,500,000 2018 The final number will be larger when Dec 2018 deficit is included. It is not yet known.
www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

Do you see the trend?
The Chinese trade deficit is getting bigger and bigger under Trump. He said it would get smaller and smaller. Trump is a disaster when you look at the numbers.

Now that I think of it, Trump said the National Debt would get smaller and smaller. It is getting bigger and bigger, faster and faster. Trump is a disaster if you look at his numbers rather than listen to the sound of his voice.

“If you were against President Obama’s deficits and now you’re for the Republican deficits isn’t that the very definition of hypocrisy? Don’t you remember when Republicans howled to high heaven that President Obama was spending us into the gutter, spending us into oblivion?”
www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-lawmakers-seek-to-declare-22t-national-de
bt-a-security-threat


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm just going to end this conversation now because your partisanship is effecting your credibility about anything else you have to say on the matter.

6ixStringJack, let’s cut through your superiority complex crap. This is the trade deficit with China for the last three years.

$346,996,500,000 2016
$375,576,400,000 2017
$382,331,500,000 2018 The final number will be larger when Dec 2018 deficit is included. It is not yet known.
www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

Do you see the trend?
The Chinese trade deficit is getting bigger and bigger under Trump. He said it would get smaller and smaller. Trump is a disaster when you look at the numbers.

Now that I think of it, Trump said the National Debt would get smaller and smaller. It is getting bigger and bigger, faster and faster. Trump is a disaster if you look at his numbers rather than listen to the sound of his voice.

“If you were against President Obama’s deficits and now you’re for the Republican deficits isn’t that the very definition of hypocrisy? Don’t you remember when Republicans howled to high heaven that President Obama was spending us into the gutter, spending us into oblivion?”
www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-lawmakers-seek-to-declare-22t-national-de
bt-a-security-threat


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




DID I STUTTER!

I don't give a shit about whatever it is you keep bringing up.

I'm talking about one simple article written about one stupid thing that one stupid guy said, who's stupid author's stupid point was predicated on the FALSE notion that the other stupid guy said something that wasn't stupid.

Quit changing the subject and just say "You're right, 6ix. That article was stupid.".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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