' The truth - We will go extinct, very soon.'
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We're fruit flies in a jar.
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Quote:Who gives a fuck what you think, SECOND? You have such a hard-on for Trump that anything you post is 90% shit.
All because we allowed a few very powerful sociopathic parasites to control our economies and our media.- SIGNY
Trump pulled America out of the Paris Climate Agreement. And he does have control of the American economy.- SECONF
Let me ask you a question: What do you think would happen if all environmental regulation - national, state, or local - were ajudicated on the basis of whether or not they interfered with "normal and expected profits"? That any attempt to tax carbon, or mandate higher fuel economies than allowed by trade agreement, or reduce fuel consumption, or restrict timber exports, or subsidize green energy production, would be met in a secret trade tribunal which would void these efforts because they would be "unfair trade practices"?
Do you really think that the answer to this globalist-generated catstrophe consists of sticking your head into a globalist-generated meat-grinder?
Most environmental efforts simply represent polluters' efforts to "monetize" their pollution. That approach has never worked; even the SCAQMD - which flogged the concept since 1996 with all of the best will and technology available - abandoned the concept recently.
If it wasn't for Trump backing us out of these trade agreements, AOC would never be able to suggest that the USA govt undertake a New Green Deal because it would be against international law. You can thank Trump now, and so can she.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Glad to see I'm not the only wun hoo can see our impending doom.
Way back in grade skool I saw there were too many peepl on the planet, so desided to never hav kidz. The population wuz under 4 billion then.
I think 1 billion shoud be the limit. Even if the ecosystem coud support more,
wuts the point? 1 billion iz many timez more than needed for jenetic variety
and survival uv relatively local catastrofyz, so anything beyond iz just worthless massive repetition.
Sumbudy I argued with about this claimed I wuz rong kuz 'we're at 7-1/2 billion now and doing fine'.
The thing iz that the ecosystem haz been vizably cracking under the strain for decadez. The more there are uv us over the limit, the faster it crumblz.
Dimwits hoo think in termz uv their own lifespan and say 'duznt matter to me, I'll be ded befor then' shoud be sentenst to prizon and forst to woc Soylent Green, Eraserhed, Silent Running, and a few other doomzday moviez at least wuns a week for 10 yirz.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
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When the very intricate network of lifeforms you depend on are all extinct, you're next, and that's where we are.
No human will be able to live on this planet 100 years from now. Not one. You might as well try to start a farm on the moon.
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On the bright side ... or not so bright side ... some people are talking about, maybe hoping for, a prolonged sunspot minimum like the Maunder minimum in the Middle Ages.
I have no idea why this idea came up; not being a solar astrophysicist I don't know if there is any way to predict long-term changes in solar output ... as far as I know there isn't, but if anyone has further info on this hoped-for (?) minimum let me know!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:Fuck off, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
On the bright side ... or not so bright side ... some people are talking about, maybe hoping for, a prolonged sunspot minimum like the Maunder minimum in the Middle Ages.
I have no idea why this idea came up; not being a solar astrophysicist I don't know if there is any way to predict long-term changes in solar output ... as far as I know there isn't, but if anyone has further info on this hoped-for (?) minimum let me know!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:Fuck off, TROLLBOT.
Fuck off, Russian troll.- REAVERBOT
Did I say that a Maunder minimum would save us?
No.
At best, even IF it occurred (and I thought I was pretty clear that I have no idea why anyone would think so: It's not like we've been able to predict long-term solar output), the best projections are that it would shave off a few tenths of a degree warming, and once the minimum was past we'd be in worse shape than before assuming that we didn't change our ways. At least, according to people who make such projections. I just brought it up for the sake of completeness ... a form of intellectual honesty that you appear to be totally unacquainted with.
But I see your pattern: The moment someone offends you, you call them a "Russian troll".
If I were TRULY a Russian troll, I would have posted
Global warming is Russia's friend. It opens up vast swaths of Siberia and the Arctic Ocean to agricultural development, resource extraction, and transportation. While other nations will suffer from global warming, Russia will thrive. Russia does not allow GMO agriculture, therefore Russia does not bathe huge swaths of the environment with glyphosate. Russia does not depend on globalist banks to propel its development and therefore does not flog its industry for ever-expanding profits with which to pay ever-accumulating interest, therefore Russia's development is balanced and sustainable.
See, since I don't think such arguments are true, I don't post such posts. So I'm not a Russian troll, just someone that you decided to attack.
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Also, for the sake of completeness, the [other] causes of extinction include urbanization, intensified (industrial) agriculture, and loss of habitat, not just global warming. It doesn't help that we spray a gazzilion chemicals on our land and into our water and bulldoze the rest because we no longer have family farms, we have "efficient" factory farms.
And just to stick a needle in that pompous and vacuous self-righteousness that you call a conscience, IF the USA were to create environmentally-righteous policies, we would immediately shut off the flow of immigrants which are adding significantly to our population growth.
IF we were serious about mitigating environmental damage, aside from ending our endless "interventions" overseas we would control our borders and bring our agricultural practices, resource extraction, infrastructural demands, energy generation and use, urbanization, manufacturing redevelopment, financial incentives, and importation policies back in sync with our environment, and leave other nations to do the same with theirs, without providing a "safety valve" for their exploitative practices (which we enforced).
Here in the Southwest, where we're ALREADY flogging our water and land resources beyond sustainability, the LAST thing we need is "growth" and "population increase". This year when we've exceeded our normal rainfall and snowpack? Like a possible Maunder-minimum, I look at is as a reprieve, not a solution. But we're resource-limited, and the reality is that southwest precipitation is projected (by climatologists) to reduce by an even further 25%. I recognize that as fact. Do you?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Glad to see I'm not the only wun hoo can see our impending doom.
Way back in grade skool I saw there were too many peepl on the planet, so desided to never hav kidz. The population wuz under 4 billion then.
I think 1 billion shoud be the limit. Even if the ecosystem coud support more,
wuts the point? 1 billion iz many timez more than needed for jenetic variety
and survival uv relatively local catastrofyz, so anything beyond iz just worthless massive repetition.
Sumbudy I argued with about this claimed I wuz rong kuz 'we're at 7-1/2 billion now and doing fine'.
The thing iz that the ecosystem haz been vizably cracking under the strain for decadez. The more there are uv us over the limit, the faster it crumblz.
Dimwits hoo think in termz uv their own lifespan and say 'duznt matter to me, I'll be ded befor then' shoud be sentenst to prizon and forst to woc Soylent Green, Eraserhed, Silent Running, and a few other doomzday moviez at least wuns a week for 10 yirz.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com .
I agree with the 1 Billion figure... at least for starters.
Still too many, IMO, but it's a good goal to reach, and at that point we could talk about what to do next.
I'd say the both of us are pretty brilliant overall, JO, but there are smarter minds working for people far more powerful than us that have no doubt been planning this for a while. I don't think it will be any horror story like in the X-Files, but it's going to be done through social engineering. We'll all think that it was our own idea not to have kids.
I don't believe any predictions that say we're going to hit 10 Billion people. Evidence points to the contrary... at least in 1st world nations that relatively have their shit together.
I never decided not to have any kids. It just kind of happened that way, and at this point I can't say that I mind much. It certainly makes life a lot easier.
BTW... how's that perpetual motion machine going? Is it good enough yet?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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This reminds me of a fun little conspiracy-laden thing that actually happened. Seen through a post-apocalyptic lens, it sorta makes sense:
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature
https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/georgia-guidestones-myst
erious-instructions-for-the-post-apocalypse/
I'm of the opinion that once the extinction really sets in, and even the Jesus freaks realize that nothing is coming to save them, the world will shrug us off like a bad cold.
There won't be little pockets of survivors, at least not for long. There won't be enough resources to sustain any number of people, not even one. Not even a billionaire in a bunker filled with 100 years worth of supplies.
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Its odd that I know so many peepl hoo dont hav kidz. Its a little encourajing, but not enuf to make me optimistic. I woc Steve Wilkos every weekday and all the gests are plopping out babyz all the time.
The GRaVMIL still failz to complete a sycle. I hav a few more ideaz taking shape in my brain, but havent regained enuf enthuziazm yet to try them.
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About the Russia vs US aspect uv this -
If you needed to put the blame on a single factor, money iz the obvious choise. It iz the real life Frankenstien monster. It iz wun uv the cornerstone inventionz that make sivilization possible, but it got out uv control and took over, spawning capitalizm and all the associated crappola thats gobbling up the planet.
I dont know - iz Russia still considered comunist? China iz, yet they hav at least az much capitalizm going on az we do.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
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