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When Lower Tax RATES Produce Higher Tax Revenue

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:00 PM

The above post was fake news, brought to you by Marcos.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/02/01/netflix-will-lose-an-ungodly
-amount-of-money-next.aspx


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In business school, you are taught that the value of any company is the present value of all future cash flows. But on Netflix's (NASDAQ:NFLX) recent earnings release, the company reported negative free cash flow of over $2 billion. Not only that, but the company projected negative free cash flow of $3 billion to $4 billion for 2018 -- a cash burn equal to the entire market capitalization of some mid-cap companies.

The current strategy at Netflix seems to be to spend as much as possible, as quickly as possible. Not only is the company spending all the cash it generates, it also plans to tap the high-yield debt markets in order to fund investment even beyond the current cash generation of the business.

Not only will the company increase content spending to between $7.5 billion and $8 billion in 2018 (up from a previous target of $7 billion to $8 billion), a big increase over the roughly $6 billion spent last year, but Netflix also plans to increase its marketing spend by an even greater percentage, from $1.3 billion to about $2 billion.





When you generate less than 1 Billion in income, but you spend 4 Billion to make that 1 Billion, you've still lost 3 Billion.



I know this is some sort of huge move looking to the future for the company, but I for one will find it quite hilarious and satisfying when somebody else comes in with the next brand new thing that makes them obsolete before they can ever realize that dream. And then I will sit back and laugh when a bunch of rich people lose the kind of money that made investors jump out of skyscrapers back in the 80's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:12 PM

It's all smoke and mirrors. They're making a bundle, and won't pay a dime.

This is what they buy politicians for.

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Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:22 PM

Dude, it's not smoke and mirrors. Netflix is ridiculously cheap. They have to pay huge bundles of money to get the rights to stream shows and movies they don't own, and then they have to pay even more to put together shows and movies that they make on their own.

Kevin Spacey alone was making $500,000 per episode of House of Cards. At $10 per membership, that's 50,000 Netflix memberships required just to pay for his single episode salary. For a whole season, that is 650,000 memberships.

It just cost Netflix $100 Million to keep Friends on their service, just for 2019.




Honestly, I have no idea what they're thinking. Technology is way too volatile. They should know that more than most, since they were the ones who virtually killed video rental stores. Who knows what could come out next and dethrone them before they could ever hope to even see a profit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:31 PM

Huh.....

I'd like to see a breakdown of their profits vs. their expenses, although that's probably not possible.

I wasn't aware until I googled it now that they have 117.6 Million subscribers now, worldwide.

Assuming $10 per month, per customer on average, that amounts to over $14 Billion dollars in monthly subscriptions per year.

Kind of make's Kevin Spacey's salary and $100 Million for the right to air Friends for the year to seem downright paltry.




On the other hand, they do offer a LOT of content. I'm sure, for instance, it's not cheap to be able to stream Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead either, not to mention the ton of shows and movies they make in house. Granted, the in house stuff will end up being much cheaper to offer in the future than securing rights to stuff they don't own.

Maybe that's their end game goal? Eventually they won't stream anything they don't have exclusive rights to once they've built their own catalog up sufficiently?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:16 PM

Fox News Hosts Are Horrified to Learn Their Own Polls Show People Want to Tax the Rich
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fox-news-hosts-horrified-learn-1722220
93.html


They blame the obsession with teaching kids about “fairness.”

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 3:18 AM

Troll trying to derail another on-topic thread with off-topic Fake News nonsense, unable to comprehend the subject matter.

Further proof RF has second's hand up his butt. A Sockpuppet fest.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 3:20 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Troll trying to derail another on-topic thread with off-topic Fake News nonsense, unable to comprehend the subject matter.

Further proof RF has second's hand up his butt. A Sockpuppet fest.

Wasn't fake, Russian troll. Go eat some beets. Drink yourself blind with Russian vodka.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 3:22 AM

Why millions of people are getting hit with a surprise tax bill this year
An effort to make the tax bill look better ended up making it look worse.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/6/18214039/irs-tax-refu
nd-withholding-trump


It’s actually the case that in the long run TCJA will raise many working- and middle-class people’s taxes. To conform to budget reconciliation rules, Republicans made it so the nonregressive tax cuts largely expire after 10 years while the revenue-raisers and the business tax cuts are permanent. But while this is an important (and telling) part of the tax policy debate, it doesn’t represent anything that’s happening this winter. People hit with a surprise request to pay extra to the IRS may feel like Trump surprisingly raised their taxes, but in most cases that’s not what’s happening.

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:54 AM

I do admit that I was surprised to see just how small my return is going to be this year. I thought it was because I made more money than I've made in the last 9 or 10 years. That's probably true, but it's probably because of what's talked about in this story as well.

But that's the thing... I still took my two allowances upfront, and they still owe me. Even with a very small double digit EIC payment, it comes out to a little over $100 return. If anything, that's the smallest loan I've ever given the federal government in a year where I actually made enough to be taxed by them.


Personally, I'm extremely happy with that. I can see how other people who don't use more than 10% of their brains will be outraged though. Those 26 larger than average checks they got all year sure were nice, but they're not going to get that huge rebate of a tax free loan they gave to the government every year before.



In short, people on average paid less taxes in 2018. They also had a more reasonable amount of taxes deducted from their paychecks. They paid less taxes overall, but they didn't overpay as much as before, so they won't get a huge check back.



As for the 10 years to expiration stuff, the Democrats will have a chance to make that permanent when they inevitably run the show again. We'll just have to see if that happens.

My guess is that they will conveniently forget about doing that just like they always conveniently forget to even dare talk about an Electoral College overhaul every time they win.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:12 PM

Billionaires Flooded Republicans’ Coffers Just Before the Tax Cuts Passed
We’re shocked! Shocked!
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/02/billionaires-flooded-repu
blicans-coffers-just-before-the-tax-cuts-passed
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In late June 2017, Texas political mega-donor Doug Deason had a stern message for Republicans seeking campaign donations: The “Dallas piggy bank” was closed until they repealed Obamacare and passed major tax cuts. Deason said he had urged about two dozen of his wealthy Texas friends to do the same. The billionaire Koch brothers Charles and David also hinted at withholding money.

Just weeks later, the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare collapsed. Tax reform, which one Republican senator said would make repealing Obamacare look like a piece of cake, ominously loomed as the next item on the GOP agenda, and time was running out. Panic set in. By November, as Congress struggled to push a massive tax cut bill forward, Rep. Chris Collins from New York summed up the stakes: “My donors are basically saying: ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again.'”

Lawmakers got it done. Just days before the holiday break, relieved Republicans delivered those wealthy donors what they wanted: one of the biggest tax cuts in history, one that would almost exclusively benefit the wealthy.

From the looks of it, GOP politicians got what they wanted, too. From the time the tax bill was first introduced on Nov. 2, 2017, until the end of the year, a 60-day period, dozens of billionaires and millionaires dramatically boosted their political contributions unlike they had in past years, giving a total of $31.1 million in that two months, a Center for Public Integrity analysis of data from the Center for Responsive Politics found.

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