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Quote:6ixStringJack, I predict a high probability that you shall do well because you’ve got a powerful mind and the energy to use it. I don’t have the powerful part, but I have got a operating technique -- when I don’t know for sure I often do know enough to take action (and also have a way to back-out when what I didn’t know goes horribly wrong). An example, not from me, but from life in general: It was okay to vote for Trump when not knowing he was lying about himself. It is not okay once you do know there are some things horrible, not precisely sure what, Trump did. There is a high probability that he is guilty of something, don’t know what for sure. (What is the general backup plan? Support V.P. Pence to replace Trump.)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not often that I say anything is certain anymore, is it?
Some of the goons here think I'm a dummy for this, and because I just don't outright buy anything that is printed in news sites that speak to their disposition.
. . . if you're really interested in a subject you can research it and get your own answers instead of relying on somebody else's "knowledge" to get the answers.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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An exit strategy is always highly recommended.
If Trump is implicated, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But at this point in time, it just hasn't happened yet. As far as presidents that have served since I've been old enough to vote, I personally think that things aren't going all that bad, relatively speaking. I'm sure that you would argue that it was better under Obama. I'm pretty sure that JSF would argue that it was better under GWB.
It's been a never ending parade of "bombshells" that would ensure that "this is the time he's going to be impeached" for the last two years, and still nothing.
I'm not a mindless MAGA hat wearing Trumpite. I have a general distrust in government on both sides. My quote that you'll find on older posts that I used for years was Book's "A government is a body of people, usually, notably ungoverned".
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:When the board of directors fires a CEO, they do NOT have Robert Mueller investigate the CEO for years to determine wrong doing and the board does NOT ask for permission from the millions of stockholders. The board fires the CEO's ass and then it is over. In the case of the Federal government, the CEO, Trump, is a blood-brother to most of the board of directors, the GOP Senators. Those Senators will use any excuse to delay firing Trump. But you are not Trump's blood-brother. Trump has given plenty of indication there is something wrong with him and V.P. Pence is standing by to replace him with very little change in policy, but a huge increase in mental stability of the President. If there is anything Trump has done you like, Pence will give you more of it and he will do it without Trump's silliness. Obviously, the GOP Senators will, with 99% probability, never remove Trump, no matter what comes out from Mueller or anybody else.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
An exit strategy is always highly recommended.
If Trump is implicated, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But at this point in time, it just hasn't happened yet. As far as presidents that have served since I've been old enough to vote, I personally think that things aren't going all that bad, relatively speaking. I'm sure that you would argue that it was better under Obama. I'm pretty sure that JSF would argue that it was better under GWB.
It's been a never ending parade of "bombshells" that would ensure that "this is the time he's going to be impeached" for the last two years, and still nothing.
I'm not a mindless MAGA hat wearing Trumpite. I have a general distrust in government on both sides. My quote that you'll find on older posts that I used for years was Book's "A government is a body of people, usually, notably ungoverned".
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Maybe I should give an example of mental instability? Candidate Trump repeatedly promised his base voters not to enact a tax proposal that he would personally benefit from and claimed over and over again that he wanted to crack down on abusive loopholes used by hedge fund and private equity managers. He got many audiences to applaud what he said. Once he was President, Trump actually delivered a regressive tax cut that contains special new loopholes he benefits from personally. Trump was not lying as usual for a politician; he was talking crazy, maybe because candidate Trump's mouth was running without a sane brain in control.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/18/16778658/pass-through-real-
estate-tax-bill
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I have doubt that he's not mentally stable either.
He's not acting any different than he did before he was voted in.
I don't really care much for Pence. I don't think you would either if this ever were to happen.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I strongly disagree with you about Trump acting no different before versus after the election. Trump knew that populism is popular, and sold himself as populist. Exactly like a crazy person, he was unworried about consequences of being a President not who he says he was while campaigning. But he is sane enough to correctly predict that Trump voters would only slowly and partially understand that he cheated on the economic promises. Better healthcare? No. Coal coming back? No. Higher taxes on the wealthy? No. That is not all the "No"s. He needs at least one "Yes": the Texas/Mexico Wall. He is going to try to get that Wall using any crazy method he can think of. Tonight's State of the Union address will be insane, I predict. Take another look at his Inauguration Speech on "This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.": www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/the-inaugural-address/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I have doubt that he's not mentally stable either.
He's not acting any different than he did before he was voted in.
That was one of the weirdest speeches of all times. Compare it to Lincoln's Inauguration Speeches if you want to see how strangely Trump's mind works. www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/1inaug.htm
www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/inaug2.htm
I also predict Trump voters won't understand how crazy and strange Trump is, just as most didn't understand the shutdown to get a Wall was crazy, too. And like most crazy plans, the shutdown failed.
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Shutdown didn't exactly fail...
We'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Bring popcorn.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You say it did not exactly fail? You and I are living in different Universes. That shutdown was the stupidest thing I ever saw, other than those youtube videos of some guy, it could be Trump, cutting down a tree and it falls on his truck. Well . . . since the truck was borrowed, it is no problem for Trump the Lumberjack who knows chainsaws but doesn't understand gravity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shutdown didn't exactly fail...
We'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Bring popcorn.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The two great absences in American political life are:
1) socially liberal, economically conservative voters. Basically they don’t exist, accounting for only around 4 percent of the electorate.
www.voterstudygroup.org/publications/2016-elections/political-division
s-in-2016-and-beyond
2) socially conservative, economically liberal politicians — let’s be blunt and just say “racist populists.” There are plenty of voters who would like that mix, and Trump pretended to be their man; but he wasn’t. Trump, who ran as a populist on promises to expand health care and raise taxes on the rich, began betraying his working-class supporters the moment he took office, pushing through big tax cuts for the rich while trying to take health coverage away from millions.
Once upon a time there truly were racist populists: George Wallace for President and in Congress the New Deal coalition relied on a large contingent of segregationist Dixiecrats. But this was always unstable. In practice, advocating economic inclusion seems to spill over into advocacy of racial and social inclusion, too. By the 1940s, Northern Democrats were already more pro-civil rights than Northern Republicans. The Democratic party now has very little tolerance for even the appearance of racism.
Meanwhile, the modern Republican Party is all about cutting taxes on the rich and benefits for the poor and the middle class. And Trump, despite his campaign posturing, has turned out to be no different.
Hence the failure of our political system to serve socially conservative/racist voters who also want to tax the rich and preserve Social Security. Democrats won’t ratify their racism; Republicans, who have no such compunctions, will — remember, the party establishment solidly backed Roy Moore’s Senate bid — but won’t protect the programs they depend on.
Tax cuts for the rich are the G.O.P.’s defining policy, but two-thirds of voters believe that taxes on the rich are actually too low. Cuts in Medicaid have been central to every G.O.P. health care proposal, but only a small minority want that. Why did Republican politicians stake out a position so far from voters’ preferences? Because they could.
As Democrats became the party of civil rights, the G.O.P. could attract working-class whites by catering to their social and racial illiberalism, even while pursuing policies that hurt ordinary workers. Basically nobody wants these policies on their own; they only sell if they’re packaged with racial hostility.
More at www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/opinion/ralph-northam-howard-schultz.html
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You say it did not exactly fail? You and I are living in different Universes. That shutdown was the stupidest thing I ever saw, other than those youtube videos of some guy, it could be Trump, cutting down a tree and it falls on his truck. Well . . . since the truck was borrowed, it is no problem for Trump the Lumberjack who knows chainsaws but doesn't understand gravity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shutdown didn't exactly fail...
We'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Bring popcorn.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
What I mean is that it's not exactly over yet...
No telling what the future holds.
Not a damn thing I could do about it any way it turns out, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the shit show.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Enjoy this: 4 Trump vacations cost $13.6 million
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No telling what the future holds.
Not a damn thing I could do about it any way it turns out, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the shit show.
Four of President Donald Trump’s trips to his Florida home cost taxpayers nearly $13.6 million, the U.S. government’s watchdog reported Tuesday.
The federal government costs included $60,000 paid directly to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club, the Government Accountability Office said in its report, which examined Trump’s visits over four weeks in early 2017.
The GAO noted in its report that it didn’t include some expenses that are classified nor did it include salaries or benefits of Secret Service and Defense Department personnel.
The government also spent nearly $400,000 protecting the president’s two older sons during three international trips they took in early 2018, the office found.
http://time.com/5521886/trump-trips-mar-a-lago-cost/
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