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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Alright Jack. That is fantastic. :) Hope you get the position.



Thanks. :)

Still not sure I even want it. I'd be annoyed if I wasn't asked though.

They'd have to be willing to negotiate with me a little. Not on pay. I'm fine with taking that and not haggling on the price. Just getting the boost in pay and the extra days every pay period I'd be making about twice what I do now which would allow me to save around $15,000 to $20,000 per year, minus any huge expenses like my teeth and the day my car inevitably dies.

Unlike the other team lead though, I would require only working 4 day weeks, 10 to 12 hours per day. She's working overtime right now at 5 days a week. I find it strange that they're giving her overtime when the last team lead wasn't allowed any.

I don't really expect that they'd give me any, but I'd throw out that 10 to 12 hours to let them know that I'm not afraid of it.

Working overnights though, I've got to at least have a 3 day weekend, otherwise it would feel like I was at work all year long. No way I'd give up my 8 day weekends for that unless they were going to put me in management with a good salary. Unless we were talking about real, life changing amount of cash thrown my way, my free time is much more valuable to me than money.

We'll see what happens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:29 PM

SIX, what's your medical, dental, and vision insurance like? Does being a full time team leader make a difference in that? Because it it means that you get health insurance, that's a $750/month value, right there. (At least in CA) And if THAT'S in the package, then I suggest accepting the position for a year, getting all of your expensive needs taken care of on the compnay's dime, and then dropping back to your current position.

Just a mercenary thought!

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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:48 PM

I'm not sure. I'm definately going to be doing some homework once I finish my week off.

The problem is, after my clean bill of health from the doctor and the lab work, my only real health issue is in my mouth, and as far as I know nobody really gets good dental insurance anywhere... at least in the private sector.

Even before I lost that great job, my dental insurance was pretty much crap. It covered two visits/cleanings per year and x-rays. Anything beyond that was capped at only $1,000 bucks coverage, and then only something like 15 to 20% on anything above that.

If I went the route of getting full on implants and everything that would entail, that would still leave me paying nearly as much as I paid for my house to get the work done after the insurance paid their part.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:52 PM

Oh... BTW, I'm starting to get pretty massive again in my arms and shoulders, and I'm practically dead lifting the water and juice packs on the top all night long so my back is getting a great workout and I don't have any pains there.

I've really got to start working out on my own again. This is the perfect excuse for me to do it. It actually kind of bothers me to see my arms, shoulders and back looking as good as they do, but my chest doesn't seem to match very well. Kind of odd for me since back in my workout days I always focused too much on the pecs (that's a pretty common flaw with non-professional bodybuilders).

It sure would make my job even easier if I started doing some bench pressing and squats again. Pulling all those heavy pallets is easy, but pushing them can be a real pain in the ass.

It's pretty exciting to think about and I can't wait until the spring and my basement is warm enough to start using the equipment that's been collecting dust for the 7 years I've lived here.

I might actually have to finish that room and get it insulated so I can heat it with a small space heater next winter.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 4, 2019 7:21 PM

Hrrrrmmmmm....

I forgot how nice it is to have most of your income fall beneath even the 10% tax bracket after the standard deduction. I'd also lose a property tax credit of $300 that I enjoy right now on top of it.

After paying all these new taxes and the insurance premiums (based off of 2nd hand knowledge on the price from what somebody said they were paying last year), assuming zero overtime, I'd be looking at pretty much double my disposable income now. Since the bills are already paid anything extra would be gravy to do what I wanted to with.


There's also the bonus which is doubled for full timers to consider, as well as the fact that your paid time off increases much quicker as a full timer. I don't really give PTO a second thought right now with all of my free time, and the fact that I only get about 1 hour every 45 that I work right now, but it would mean a lot more to me if I were working a lot more.

I'll have to go into the system at work and see how much quicker it gets. It's still not super fast since I've only been there a year, but the speed increases quite quickly after only one year for full timers as opposed to part timers. After working there 3 years, I could probably take one PTO day off every other week and get my 3 day weekends since I don't have any interest in taking vacations anywhere.



I've got a lot to consider here. I shouldn't be putting this much thought into it yet though since I haven't gotten an offer. The fact that I don't drive a forklift is really a big negative for an overnight lead. I'm not sure at this point if the people who make these decisions are aware of all of the other stuff I bring to the table. My manager and the old team lead would really have to push the issue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 4, 2019 10:40 PM

Boots and cane today. Walk is not shovelled of course.

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Monday, February 4, 2019 10:47 PM

SIX, my parents were Depression-Era/wartime children/young adults and they seared into our consciousness that life presents unexpected, major air-pockets so what they would say is .... if you get a job offer jump at it, and if you get offered a promotion jump at that too.

You DID mention that you didn't have forklift driving experience because of "too much pain". Too much pain?

If they offered you a promotion on the proviso that you had to get trained driving a forklift, would you do it?

Management seems to have a lot more flexibility than the agency where I worked, if I were management I'd offer you the job provisionally, on the basis that you take and pass some sort of forklift operation training, within a certain period of time (say, two months), and (of course) offer to training specifically.

Just OOC, why was previous management fired? Was it a reasonable decision, in your POV? Or was the decision arbitrary?


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Tuesday, February 5, 2019 12:03 AM

Rain-wise, SoCal is doing OK. We're within a couple of inches of normal and we still have at least five weeks of rainy-season left. Snowpack-wise, CA is doing just a little bit above average for this time of year too.

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/snowapp/swcchart.action

Snowpack usually maxes out in the last week of March, so I hope that the accumulation continues.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2019 6:52 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, my parents were Depression-Era/wartime children/young adults and they seared into our consciousness that life presents unexpected, major air-pockets so what they would say is .... if you get a job offer jump at it, and if you get offered a promotion jump at that too.



Yeah, I know. I lived with my grandma who was raised that way. She's the most extremely frugal person I've ever known... well maybe outside of me, of course. I wasn't that way before I had to move there after losing the best job of my life at only 20 years old though.

The thing is that I'm doing fine right now. Better than fine, actually. If it wasn't for my teeth issue, I'd say things are going great. That's kind of one of the major problems here... Getting this job wouldn't fix that or really even help. It still wouldn't be close to the money that I would need to get my arches rebuilt and solid implants put in, so I'd still be going with dentures that I can get relatively cheap, especially since I have family in the business.

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You DID mention that you didn't have forklift driving experience because of "too much pain". Too much pain?


I think I probably mentioned this here before, but maybe I didn't. We use stand-up forklifts at work that use pressure plates under your feet as a sort of dead-mans-switch. If you're not standing on them just so, then the lift will die on you. I spent several hours on one back in the day, and wrapped up my night bringing stacks of empty pallets on a truck, over the plate that bridges the concrete floor to the truck bed, and I ended up hobbling out of the store that night. I was still in pain four days later even though that was my last night at work. My left leg also tends to go numb after being on there any extended period of time. This may be because I have to kind of constantly "flex" the leg in a certain position the whole time I'm on it to keep it from dying.

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If they offered you a promotion on the proviso that you had to get trained driving a forklift, would you do it?

Management seems to have a lot more flexibility than the agency where I worked, if I were management I'd offer you the job provisionally, on the basis that you take and pass some sort of forklift operation training, within a certain period of time (say, two months), and (of course) offer to training specifically.



I'm already trained and certified. Way back under my first manager that got fired in early spring I went over her head and spoke to the store manager about it. I told her I didn't want to because I liked the job, but if driving the forklift was now part of my job description I'd have to put in my two week notice. She told me "we don't want that", and I've never driven one since.

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Just OOC, why was previous management fired? Was it a reasonable decision, in your POV? Or was the decision arbitrary?


It's a really long story, and I don't even know all the details. He rubbed the second in command the wrong way and ended up getting shafted left and right after that happened.

Things are going marvelously smooth right now, and I get annoyed that people seem to think that it's because either (A) he's not here anymore or (B) our new manger (who isn't a manger yet) is better at the job than he was. Neither of these things are true. No offense to her, and I think she could be a great manager, but she's only 24 years old and has never managed before. She's completely untested at this point (see below):

1. We have more people working overnight now than we've ever had, including around Thanksgiving to Christmas which was a huge time for our store sales under his management. At this time, post-Christmas, last year we had about half of the staff that we do right now on overnights and all of the part timers (except for me) were bitching about how little hours they were

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Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:47 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Alright Jack. That is fantastic. :) Hope you get the position.



Thanks. :)

Still not sure I even want it. I'd be annoyed if I wasn't asked though.

They'd have to be willing to negotiate with me a little. Not on pay. I'm fine with taking that and not haggling on the price. Just getting the boost in pay and the extra days every pay period I'd be making about twice what I do now which would allow me to save around $15,000 to $20,000 per year, minus any huge expenses like my teeth and the day my car inevitably dies.

Unlike the other team lead though, I would require only working 4 day weeks, 10 to 12 hours per day. She's working overtime right now at 5 days a week. I find it strange that they're giving her overtime when the last team lead wasn't allowed any.

I don't really expect that they'd give me any, but I'd throw out that 10 to 12 hours to let them know that I'm not afraid of it.

Working overnights though, I've got to at least have a 3 day weekend, otherwise it would feel like I was at work all year long. No way I'd give up my 8 day weekends for that unless they were going to put me in management with a good salary. Unless we were talking about real, life changing amount of cash thrown my way, my free time is much more valuable to me than money.

We'll see what happens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I wish you all the luck with work and with getting a savings account up and running. Always a good idea to have some emergency money around.

Know I do.

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