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Quote:I get that same argument from Jehovah’s Witnesses (my sisters) on why they don’t vote: "There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Both sides are evil and both will be destroyed by Armageddon." Since I’m going to be destroyed by Armageddon, I can handle a little evil and, despite what I was taught at the Kingdom Hall when I was young, there is a measurable difference between the two parties and I prefer less evil to more. That’s more or less why I vote Democrat rather than Republican. (If I was only concerned with my taxes, I'd vote Republican always.) In America there is only D and R that get elected. There is no major third party, holy and blessed by Jehovah, a party that is goodness without evil contamination.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A convenient stick, indeed.
I'll hold you in higher regard for realizing this. Maybe you'll reciprocate and appreciate that I noticed you don't go around Russia fearmongering either.
I'm sure there's plenty of skeletons in Trump's closet to find if you stop looking under rocks outside of Putin's mansion. We could put every single politician behind bars from here to eternity if we dug up the dirt on them.
Because, believe me, it's there. Every single time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I get that same argument from Jehovah’s Witnesses (my sisters) on why they don’t vote: "There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Both sides are evil and both will be destroyed by Armageddon." Since I’m going to be destroyed by Armageddon, I can handle a little evil and, despite what I was taught at the Kingdom Hall when I was young, there is a measurable difference between the two parties and I prefer less evil to more. That’s more or less why I vote Democrat rather than Republican. (If I was only concerned with my taxes, I'd vote Republican always.) In America there is only D and R that get elected. There is no major third party, holy and blessed by Jehovah, a party that is goodness without evil contamination.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A convenient stick, indeed.
I'll hold you in higher regard for realizing this. Maybe you'll reciprocate and appreciate that I noticed you don't go around Russia fearmongering either.
I'm sure there's plenty of skeletons in Trump's closet to find if you stop looking under rocks outside of Putin's mansion. We could put every single politician behind bars from here to eternity if we dug up the dirt on them.
Because, believe me, it's there. Every single time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Well... I'm surely not bringing religion to the table here. I'm 50/50 on God or heaven and hell and the rest of it.
I do believe there is Evil in man though. I have no doubt about that.
Nobody is above that either. Everyone has a price.
Some politicians got into it because they were already there. Others have nobler intentions when they start off, but everybody has a price. Absolute power, and all of that.
Also, unlike your sisters, I vote regularly.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:But two parties are not two sides of the same coin, both worth the same. One of them is more valuable. A famous Republican has some concerns about the values of his party:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I vote regularly.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Fox News talk show host Tucker Carlson stated that for generations, “Republicans have considered it their duty to make the world safe for banking, while simultaneously prosecuting ever more foreign wars.”
He went on: “Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society.”
The Fox News host says America’s “ruling class” are the “mercenaries” behind the failures of the middle class — including sinking marriage rates — and “the ugliest parts of our financial system.”
He concluded with a demand for “a fair country. A decent country. A cohesive country. A country whose leaders don’t accelerate the forces of change purely for their own profit and amusement.”
Carlson’s position and the ensuing controversy reveals a nearly unsolvable tension in conservative politics about the meaning of populism, an ideology that Trump campaigned on but Carlson argues he may not truly understand.
I spoke with Carlson by phone this week to discuss his monologue and its economic — and cultural — meaning.
Carlson wanted to be clear: He wants to question what he calls the “religious faith” of market capitalism, one he believes elites — “mercenaries who feel no long-term obligation to the people they rule” — have put ahead of “normal people.”
Carlson told me he wanted to be clear: He is not a populist, but he believes some version of populism is necessary to prevent a full-scale political revolt or the onset of socialism. Using Theodore Roosevelt as an example of a president who recognized that labor needs economic power, he told me, “Unless you want something really extreme to happen, you need to take this seriously and figure out how to protect average people from these remarkably powerful forces that have been unleashed.”
Populism is a rhetorical approach that separates “the people” from elites. It divides the country into “two homogeneous and antagonistic groups: the pure people on the one end and the corrupt elite on the other.” Trump borrowed some of that approach for his 2016 campaign but in office has governed as a fairly orthodox economic conservative, thus demonstrating the demand for populism on the right without really providing the supply.
Carlson’s populism holds, in his view, bipartisan possibilities. In a follow-up email, I asked him why his monologue was aimed at Republicans when many Democrats had long espoused the same criticisms of free market economics. “Fair question,” he responded. “I hope it’s not just Republicans. But any response to the country’s systemic problems will have to give priority to the concerns of American citizens over the concerns of everyone else, just as you’d protect your own kids before the neighbor’s kids.”
More at www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2019/01/tucker-carlson-has-sparked-t
he-most-interesting-debate-in-conservative-politics.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
But two parties are not two sides of the same coin, both worth the same. One of them is more valuable.
Agreed. We just happen to disagree which one is more valuable.
I think your problem, Second, is that you think the Democratic party today even remotely resembles the party during your time in Nam. I would have been a Democrat back then.
You do say a lot of things to piss me off, but that's usually just the personal insults when you don't agree with me. For the most part, when we're not talking about Trump, you don't really come off as some mindless SJW, and you rarely pile on like some of the other goons here do and parrot what they're told to say by the 24 hour news networks of their choice.
The Democratic party might not even really be as bad at its core as it seems, but the extremely loud minority are poisoning everything right now, up to and including mindless entertainment. These voices need to be called out and ridiculed by people in the center left.
The Democratic party as a whole needs to find a message that resonates with the people again. "We're Not Trump" isn't going to work.
We both agree that the wars need to end and military budget needs to be greatly shrunk. Maybe we can start there.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Carlson iz just az bad az Hannity. Maybe wors, kuz he seemz to know that the propaganda he spouts iz a lie.
Then agen, maybe Hannity just never breaks karakter.
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Originally posted by JO753:
Carlson iz just az bad az Hannity. Maybe wors, kuz he seemz to know that the propaganda he spouts iz a lie.
Then agen, maybe Hannity just never breaks karakter.
True...
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How did the crazy mob get it so wrong?
Apologies to Covington Catholic Students Flood Twitter After Video Shows Teens Were Framed: ‘I Got Duped by Fake News’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/apologies-to-covington-cathol
ic-students-flood-twitter-after-video-shows-teens-were-framed-i-got-duped-by-fake-news/
This is so radiantly stupid, jack - not only has 'rezaaslan' threatened explicit violence against Covington kids, he threatened DineshDSouza as well, but a conservative gal gets banned for criticizing the violence-spewing celebrity? =====>
https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1087552390918692865
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Quote:Can't start with the Pentagon budget because more than 67% of Americans are both overly fond of the troops and afraid of foreigners. That makes it easy to manipulate 67% of Americans into supporting higher defense spending and poorly thought-out foreign interventions never approved by Congress.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The Democratic party as a whole needs to find a message that resonates with the people again. "We're Not Trump" isn't going to work.
We both agree that the wars need to end and military budget needs to be greatly shrunk. Maybe we can start there.
Skip over the Pentagon. Here is the Democratic Party platform shrunk down to three things that stick in my mind: higher taxes for the wealthy, medicare for all, reduced emissions of greenhouse gases. The GOP is anti-all-that. I don’t see a way to make the Democratic Party’s three point platform appealing to the masses, but all three goals are necessary in my opinion. To give you an example of why the Democratic Party cannot sweep aside the GOP: at least two of those goals, maybe three, will be to my personal disadvantage. The GOP platform doesn’t have that disadvantage because its anti-Democrat goals appeal to everybody. Who doesn’t want lower taxes? The GOP promises lower. Who wants to pay a stranger’s medical bills? The GOP promises you won’t pay. Who wants to give up the convenience of fossil fuels? The GOP says climate change is a hoax or it is natural, not man-made.
We are in for a future where neither side has the 67% majority in Congress to make the country go fast in a particular direction. Too bad for us. Maybe if the Constitution had been written with a preference for action rather than stalemate with too many checks-and-balances, where 51% was enough, the Federal ship of state won’t be stuck on a sandbar, waiting for a high tide, a celestial event, to get it unstuck.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
How did the crazy mob get it so wrong?
Apologies to Covington Catholic Students Flood Twitter After Video Shows Teens Were Framed: ‘I Got Duped by Fake News’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/apologies-to-covington-cathol
ic-students-flood-twitter-after-video-shows-teens-were-framed-i-got-duped-by-fake-news/
This is so radiantly stupid, jack - not only has 'rezaaslan' threatened explicit violence against Covington kids, he threatened DineshDSouza as well, but a conservative gal gets banned for criticizing the violence-spewing celebrity? =====>
https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1087552390918692865]
Don't post as jayneztown in any of my threads sig. I'll respost them in your garden thread.
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The US Army says Iran is the only victor of the Iraq War
https://qz.com/1530248/
The US Army has concluded that Iran was the only victor of the eight-year US campaign to remove Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and replace him with a democratic regime.
That’s one of the findings of a massive historical study released Jan. 17, the first major military review of the Iraq war’s lessons. Commissioned in 2013 by General Ray Odierno, then the Army’s top commander, it was conducted by half a dozen field grade officers at the US Army War College.
The report consists of two volumes, one on the initial 2003 invasion
http://publications.armywarcollege.edu/publication-detail.cfm?publicat
ionID=3667
and another covering the 2007 pivot to counter-insurgency until the majority of US troops were withdrawn in 2011.
http://publications.armywarcollege.edu/publication-detail.cfm?publicat
ionID=3668
The final assessment is sobering reading:
Quote:A key misstep identified by the study was failing to apply in Iraq the lessons the US military learned during the Vietnam war. Its authors believe that the first years of the Iraq war were spent re-learning how to fight insurgents. Following Vietnam, the US military treated that war as an aberration, but these officers argue that even future conflicts with rivals like Russia or China are likely to take the form of irregular warfare.
At the time of this project’s completion in 2018, an emboldened and expansionist Iran appears to be the only victor. Iraq, the traditional regional counterbalance for Iran, is at best emasculated, and at worst has key elements of its government acting as proxies for Iranian interests. With Iraq no longer a threat, Iran’s destabilizing influence has quickly spread to Yemen, Bahrain, and Syria, as well as other locations.
As the conflict expanded beyond its original boundaries, the colonial creation that was the Iraqi-Syrian border was effectively erased. Bashar al-Assad, having misjudged his ability to control the Salafist foreign fighters that he gave safe haven for the better part of a decade, found himself threatened by the very forces that he had exploited to avert an American invasion, an invasion that in actuality was never forthcoming.
Syria was plunged into a vicious civil war that devolved into a brutality only seen in the worst conflicts of the 20th century, resulting in a death toll that has topped half of a million, repeated use of chemical weapons, and the worst refugee crisis since World War II. Kurdistan evolved from a proto-state into a de-facto nation, a development that has created deep tensions with Turkey. The danger of a Sunni-Shi’a regional conflict, with potentially globally destabilizing effects, is now greater than at any time since the original schism.
More at https://qz.com/1530248/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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