Russia moves for a second invasion of Ukraine
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Signym, do you sense a conspiracy where Poroshenko, to improve his approval rating, orders Ukraine ships to capture Russian ships?
The Sea of Azov it the shallowest sea in the world (only 2-45 feet). In addition, the Russians have built a bridge across the narrow straight which "pinches off" the Sea of Azov from the Black Sea. So navigating the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait requires up-to-date navigational information. Apparently Ukrainian ships have been accepting Russian navigators on their ships until recently, when they decided not to.
There IS an agreement (2003) on the use of the Sea of Azov between Russia and Ukraine, which Ukraine wants to break. The best description I can find is here https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201811211070007785-sea-azov-dispute/
It seems to me as if Russia is imposing conditions on Ukrainian ships that aren't in the agreement.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I know a lot more about Afghanistan and Brazil than you do, too. It doesn't mean I live there.
Or, as the old saying goes ..."Don't mistake your ignorance for my intelligence".
Did I say you lived there? You make the dumbest assumptions.
Btw - That's a pretty lame saying - did you just make it up? Or is it Russian?
Let me try, "Don't mistake knowledge for intelligence" ? Seems more appropriate in this case.
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Quote:No, you don't. You only know what your Russian boss tells you to know.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I know a lot more about Afghanistan and Brazil than you do, too. It doesn't mean I live there.
This wouldn't have anything to do with the upcoming elections in March, and Poroshenko having something like an 8% approval rating, would it?- SIGNY
You sure do know a lot about that part of the world.-
Every talking point exactly in line with what the Russian troll army is saying all over the internet, word for word.
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Quote:How would you know? The only way that you could possibly know this for sure was if you were getting copies of instructions. Is it possible that YOU'RE in someone's troll army?
. You only know what your Russian boss tells you to know.
- REAVERSHIT
In any case, whenever your post like this REAVERSHIT (which is all the time) makes me realize that I posted an argument for which you have no rational counterpoint. That's why you resort to libel ...
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Quote:No, you insinuated it. Then you double down on your libel right here ...
I know a lot more about Afghanistan and Brazil than you do, too. It doesn't mean I live there.- SIGNY
Or, as the old saying goes ..."Don't mistake your ignorance for my intelligence".- GSTRING
Did I say you lived there?- GSTRING
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Btw - That's a pretty lame saying - did you just make it up? Or is it Russian?
In any case, you got caught posting an opinion piece from a highly biased source because it said what you wanted to hear. But you didn't bother to even check out the source, so if you want to talk about lame ....
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American think tank predicts Putin will escalate war in Ukraine
By Askold Krushelnycky. Updated Jan. 4 at 8:00 pm
www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/american-think-tank-predicts-putin-w
ill-escalate-war-in-ukraine.html
Since Russia’s naval aggression in the Kerch Strait – when its ships rammed, shelled, and seized three Ukrainian naval vessels on Nov. 25 – Kyiv has warned that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin is preparing to escalate his war against the country.
American think tank, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), has endorsed that warning in a detailed assessment that has been widely-read by American and other countries’ political and military decision-makers and has added urgency to the calls for more Western support for Ukraine.
http://iswresearch.blogspot.com/2018/12/russia-in-review-russia-poised
-to.html
http://iswresearch.blogspot.com/2018/12/russias-pressure-points-on-ukr
aine.html
http://iswresearch.blogspot.com/2018/12/warning-update-russian-prepara
tions-for.html
The Kyiv Post spoke to Catherine Harris, an expert in Russian global campaigns to undermine the West. She is one of the three authors of the “Russia Poised to Escalate Ukraine Campaign” report who said the danger signals have only grown since the assessment was first published on Dec. 11.
The Kremlin still holds 24 Ukrainian navy sailors they captured, including three who were wounded by shellfire. It was the first time the Russian military openly attacked Ukrainian forces. Previously, despite overwhelming evidence, Moscow denied its regular forces had been involved in the fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.
The report drew on information, corroborated by satellite surveillance and on-the-ground witnesses of a huge Russian military buildup, involving troops, armor and planes on the border with Ukraine and in occupied Crimea.
Key points
A summary of the report, whose other authors were Mason Clark and Nicole Geis, made these key points:
1) Russia will likely escalate militarily against Ukraine imminently. Russia is setting military conditions to prepare its forces for open conflict with Ukraine.
2) Russia will create pretexts for an attack on Ukraine.
3) Russia is already creating the pretext to escalate by circulating the false narrative that Ukraine and the West are preparing imminent attacks, including a chemical weapons attack, in eastern Ukraine. Russia may fabricate evidence of a chemical weapons attack – or may itself conduct a chemical weapons attack — near Russia-backed areas of Ukraine to create chaos, justify the overt involvement of the Russian Armed Forces, and set conditions for future military operations.
4) NATO’s inaction following Russia’s aggression in the Azov Sea is likely emboldening Putin to continue challenging the West in Ukraine. “NATO must reassess the threat that Russia poses to European security and the rules-based international order and respond decisively to deter an increasingly likely Russian military escalation in Ukraine itself,” reads the report.
The report also warned that the buildup in Crimea may be in preparation for Russian forces to break out into the Ukrainian mainland at Kherson to capture a water canal and reservoir system that used to provide the mostly barren peninsula with 85 percent of its fresh water supplies. Those were cut off after Moscow’s 2014 invasion and annexation of Crimea. By June, many warn, water supplies in Crimea will fall to critical levels, thereby tempting Putin to invade.
Capturing territory in Kherson would also fit in with the plans many experts believe Moscow has always harbored to forge a land bridge between Crimea and Russian-occupied areas of the Donbas.
Harris said the fact that Russia did not try to hide its involvement in the naval attack meant that Putin was testing what the Western reaction would be. She said the Western response, criticized by many as very weak, increases the danger of further Russian aggression against Ukraine.
Quoting the report, she said: “Moscow may calculate that the international commun
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So much blah blah blah. Think tanks have all kind of opinions ... and all kinds of agendas.
Kiev claims that they control large parts of the "gray area" ... the area that was supposed to be demilitarized under the Minsk agreements ... so Poroshenko is clearly in a mood to provoke a response from Russia. But whatever Kiev says or whatever provocations Poroshenko pulls, he will be out by March most likely. Now, if I were Putin I'd simply wait it out, or respond indirectly (like cutting off gas supplies, or something). Responding militarily to Kiev provocations would simply give Poroshenko an excuse to re-impose martial law and delay elections ... something that he's itching to do, seeing as he has single-digit approval ratings right now. And he would LOVE for NATO to get involved!
But Yulia Tymoshenko is the next likely President of Ukraine, they say. So why derail Poroshenko's ouster by making him a "wartime President"?
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Quote:Ukrainian Petro Poroshenko is only listed as a potential candidate. He is not running as President-for-Life. It is Putin who has gone to war, not Poroshenko, and Putin who has repeatedly rewritten his country's Constitution, not Poroshenko, to allow himself to serve since Dec 31, 1999 until his untimely death. Putin is the one who will never leave, not Poroshenko.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So much blah blah blah. Think tanks have all kind of opinions ... and all kinds of agendas.
Kiev claims that they control large parts of the "gray area" ... the area that was supposed to be demilitarized under the Minsk agreements ... so Poroshenko is clearly in a mood to provoke a response from Russia. But whatever Kiev says or whatever provocations Poroshenko pulls, he will be out by March most likely. Now, if I were Putin I'd simply wait it out, or respond indirectly (like cutting off gas supplies, or something). Responding militarily to Kiev provocations would simply give Poroshenko an excuse to re-impose martial law and delay elections ... something that he's itching to do, seeing as he has single-digit approval ratings right now. Yulia Tymoshenko is the next likely President of Ukraine, they say. So why derail Poroshenko's ouster by making him a "wartime President"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukrainian_presidential_election
Mar 19, 2018
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/russian-leaders-who-served-t
he-longest-time-in-power/articleshow/63365645.cms
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Quote:Actually, it was neither one. It was the USA State Department under Obama and Hillary that decided to topple the elected government of Ukraine, despite the fact that the then-President had already agreed to early elections. So, if you want to talk about institutions which trample democratic processes, you can look at the USA deep state.
Ukrainian Petro Poroshenko is only listed as a potential candidate. He is not running as President-for-Life. It is Putin who has gone to war, not Poroshenko
Quote:"Putin" can't rewrite Russia's constitution, only the Duma (Parliament) can. And the Duma HAS NOT rewritten the Russian Constitution, "repeatedly", so stop lying. Putin served the maximum two consecutive terms as President, stepped out of that office while Medvedev was President, and then was re-elected in a landslide for a third term.
and Putin who has repeatedly rewritten his country's Constitution
Quote:Funny, because it was EXACTLY the Ukrainian Constitution that was rewritten!
not Poroshenko
Quote:That remains to be seen. But unlike your allegation that the Russian Constitution has already been rewritten to allow indefinite stay in (elected) office, THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. Putin's term ends in 2024.
Putin is the one who will never leave, not Poroshenko.
You must be thinking of Xi Jingping. Now THERE is a man who is in for life.
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Your ignorance is painful to read. And it's tedious to constantly debunk your lies.
Gentle reader, please note that SLOPPY SECONDS doesn't even have a link for his bullshit. So, dear reader, for the future just assume that SLOPPY SECONDS is stupid or lying.
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Quote:We will have to wait until Putin dies to see if he bests Stalin's record of 10,636 days. Putin is at 6,946 days as of today. Petro Poroshenko, President of Ukraine, is at 1,674 days, June 7, 2014 - January 6, 2019.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That remains to be seen.
Putin is the one who will never leave, not Poroshenko.
From his personal history I am sure Poroshenko has better things to do with his time and there are many Ukrainians who could do the job of President, but nobody could do better than Putin at his job. That is why he will never leave. Putin only wishes to serve the people of Russian to the best of his abilities for as long as he shall live (with occasional modifications to the Russian Constitution as become necessary from time to time. When his present term ends will be one of those times for Putin).
Four times President! Putin must really be the necessary and essential man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#2018%E2%80%93present:_Fou
rth_presidential_term
"The graveyards are full of indispensable men." Charles de Gaulle
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