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Fascistic immigration policy continues to kill kids

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:54 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Wrong, again, 6ix. I have a real deep hostility toward Trump-voting Texans who have hired illegal aliens.- SECOND
SECOND, the thought of deporting illegals without controlling the border makes as much sense as shoveling water uphill. The only thing that you ever posted on the topic that makes the slightest bit of sense is cracking down- HARD- on people who employ illegal aliens, because that can be done irrespective of what happens to the flow of migrants.

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2018 or 2019?

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by REAVERSHIT:
Not a person here more full of shit than you, Siggy.
How's the weather there in St. Petersburg, comrade?



Do you know what I think when people post like this? That I've made an argument that they absolutely can't refute with facts and any sort of rational point. When people resort to anger, name-calling, and libel is when I think my arguments have been proven correct.



It's blatantly obvious where a large proportion of the insults and defamatory comments come from on this board.

I find it extremely funny that they continue to claim that you're from Russia when those of us who are regularly attacked tend to get along generally well with each other both in the RWED and in other parts of fff.net. It's even more funny when somebody tries to tell me that I'm from Russia myself when just the day before they were claiming I'm a Nazi.



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Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:03 PM

Fact-check about building a wall from the 95-minute session with Mr. Trump.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/trump’s-freewheeling-and-fact-free-ca
binet-meeting/ar-BBRJIbd


A wall, he said, would stop the flow of heroin into the country, and it would stop human trafficking. There are “probably” 30 million to 35 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, he speculated, and they cost the government $250 billion, which “would pay for the wall.”
(Government and independent analyses have estimated there are about 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country, and one of the highest estimates for costs of illegal immigration — a criticized study from an anti-immigration group — pins the figure at $116 billion. Building a wall would not remove these immigrants from the United States and reduce whatever costs they impose.)

More at www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/trump’s-freewheeling-and-fact-free-ca
binet-meeting/ar-BBRJIbd


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 10:23 PM

GOP Senator Jeff Flake wanted to help undocumented immigrants — and then settled for nothing

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/28/18137596/2018-congress-immi
gration-health-care-jeff-flake


Nothing troubles Jeff Flake more than Trump’s hardline immigration agenda. He comes by it honestly: The Arizona senator attributes his soft spot for undocumented immigrants to his childhood growing up on a ranch. He understands the United States’ labor demands and respects the hard work and sacrifice immigrants endure to give their families a better, safer life. He naively didn’t think the Trump administration would try to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. When they did, in September 2017, Flake thought, even more naively, that Republicans and Democrats could band together and pass a version of the DREAM Act, a bill that would have given a path to citizenship to young undocumented immigrants.

But Republican Senate leaders, perhaps more aware of Trump’s extremism on the issue, were reluctant to move on immigration altogether, leaving close to 700,000 undocumented immigrants in legal limbo. By the end of 2017, no one was seriously talking about immigration.

But then, as Senate Republican leaders were scrambling to patch together votes for a tax bill, Flake suddenly had the leverage to push action on immigration, since the party could lose just only one vote (with John McCain living out his last days in Arizona).

But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the White House leaned hard on Flake. He’s a Republican; he’s supposed to cut taxes.

In exchange, Flake wanted a seat at the table on the immigration debate. He didn’t get any specific policy concessions or a timeline for when an agreement on DACA might happen. To understand how little Flake got, here’s what he himself said of the agreement.

“Giving protections for those kids — that’s what I hope comes out of it,” Flake told Vox at the time. “Obviously they can’t commit to do that, but they’ve committed to move forward with me and work with me on that.”

It’s been a year since Flake struck that deal. Congress never touched immigration again in any meaningful way.

The tax bill, however, is now law.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/28/18137596/2018-congress-immi
gration-health-care-jeff-flake


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 4, 2019 6:18 AM

You seem to be sending out mixed messages on your claimed anti-immigration status with your choice of articles, Second.

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Sunday, February 3, 2019 11:20 PM

Trump Administration to Court: 1) they don't know how many migrant children were taken from parents; 2) finding them would be too much of a "burden," since; 3) there was no formal tracking system in place.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/report-trump-admin-does-not-plan-
to-reunite-families-separated-before-zero-tolerance_us_5c55c3c4e4b087104753e468?utm_source=reddit.com

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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:49 AM

From the article in the last post:

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If the government doesn’t allow those parents to re-apply for asylum in the U.S., families may remain permanently separated. Gelernt worries that before “zero tolerance” the government could have deported hundreds more parents who might not have had a say in their children’s futures.


Why?

If the process of re-applying for asylum would somehow magically reunite the parents with the children, why couldn't they be reunited without being able to re-apply for asylum?

Is there some sort of Harry Potter-esque magic in those asylum papers that I'm unaware of?

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Monday, February 4, 2019 6:52 AM

Here's the full document the article is referencing. I don't have time to look at and compare it to how the article stated it read right now. Maybe somebody will have done that by the time I return?

https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/govt-response-declaration

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Monday, February 4, 2019 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
From the article in the last post:

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If the government doesn’t allow those parents to re-apply for asylum in the U.S., families may remain permanently separated. Gelernt worries that before “zero tolerance” the government could have deported hundreds more parents who might not have had a say in their children’s futures.


Why?

If the process of re-applying for asylum would somehow magically reunite the parents with the children, why couldn't they be reunited without being able to re-apply for asylum?

Is there some sort of Harry Potter-esque magic in those asylum papers that I'm unaware of?

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There are internationally accepted laws for asylum that you clearly don't comprehend.

You're a useful idiot, nothing more.

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Monday, February 4, 2019 5:56 PM

That wasn't an answer to my question.

That was a baseless assumption and an insult.

Care to give it another go?

Anybody else want to answer my question?

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