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Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:44 PM

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The stupid just oozes out like puss- REAVERSHIT
ooo, that's a good one RF.-SHINY



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You know what Siggy, Fuck You! ...
Do you know what I think when people post like this? That I've made an argument that they absolutely can't refute with facts and any sort of rational point. When people resort to anger, name-calling, and libel is when I think my arguments have been proven correct.

Prove me wrong: explain to me how I'M wrong.

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I stand by my views.
Views entirely unsupported by facts?

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What a fucking ignoramus.
That would be you, son.


Wake up. Align your views with the real world- you won't feel any better but at least you'll get pissed off about real things instead of fake issues.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:18 PM

Not a person here more full of shit than you, Siggy.

How's the weather there in St. Petersburg, comrade?

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Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:21 PM

He’s Built an Empire, With Detained Migrant Children as the Bricks

The founder of Southwest Key made millions from housing migrant children. His nonprofit has stockpiled taxpayer dollars and possibly engaged in self-dealing with top executives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/us/southwest-key-migrant-children.h
tml?fbclid=IwAR3oiekSXQJ_fu-Al_eEAlxXgd69HV2lHtoxBYkbPlBHtegcyy1EqWCccVI

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by REAVERSHIT:
Not a person here more full of shit than you, Siggy.
How's the weather there in St. Petersburg, comrade?



Do you know what I think when people post like this? That I've made an argument that they absolutely can't refute with facts and any sort of rational point. When people resort to anger, name-calling, and libel is when I think my arguments have been proven correct.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 1:29 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Do you know what I think when people post like this? That I've made an argument that they absolutely can't refute with facts and any sort of rational point. When people resort to anger, name-calling, and libel is when I think my arguments have been proven correct.

You're going to declare yourself the winner without actually having won. Good for you. But there is article on the subject about why it’s pointless to argue on the internet. https://qz.com/1513176/

John Stuart Mill explains, in 1869, why you can never win an argument on the internet:

"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it. For if it were accepted as a result of argument, the refutation of the argument might shake the solidity of the conviction; but when it rests solely on feeling, the worse it fares in argumentative contest, the more persuaded its adherents are that their feeling must have some deeper ground, which the arguments do not reach; and while the feeling remains, it is always throwing up fresh intrenchments of argument to repair any breach made in the old."

Mill highlights the often overlooked reality that many opinions aren’t based on facts at all, but feelings. And so, contradictory points of information don’t shift emotionally rooted arguments, but only cause people to dig deeper into their emotions to hold onto those views.

More at https://qz.com/1513176/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:23 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you know what I think when people post like this? That I've made an argument that they absolutely can't refute with facts and any sort of rational point. When people resort to anger, name-calling, and libel is when I think my arguments have been proven correct.

You're going to declare yourself the winner without actually having won. Good for you. But there is article on the subject about why it’s pointless to argue on the internet. https://qz.com/1513176/

John Stuart Mill explains, in 1869, why you can never win an argument on the internet:

"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it. For if it were accepted as a result of argument, the refutation of the argument might shake the solidity of the conviction; but when it rests solely on feeling, the worse it fares in argumentative contest, the more persuaded its adherents are that their feeling must have some deeper ground, which the arguments do not reach; and while the feeling remains, it is always throwing up fresh intrenchments of argument to repair any breach made in the old."

Mill highlights the often overlooked reality that many opinions aren’t based on facts at all, but feelings. And so, contradictory points of information don’t shift emotionally rooted arguments, but only cause people to dig deeper into their emotions to hold onto those views.

That guy posted a good description of you, your posts, and your views. Like he read much of what you post, which nobody else does.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:45 AM

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He’s Built an Empire, With Detained Migrant Children as the Bricks

The founder of Southwest Key made millions from housing migrant children. His nonprofit has stockpiled taxpayer dollars and possibly engaged in self-dealing with top executives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/us/southwest-key-migrant-children.h
tml?fbclid=IwAR3oiekSXQJ_fu-Al_eEAlxXgd69HV2lHtoxBYkbPlBHtegcyy1EqWCccVI


golly, more Obamabots misusing Federally confiscated Taxdollars, shockers.
Yet another example.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:48 AM

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Wrong, again, 6ix. I have a real deep hostility toward Trump-voting Texans who have hired illegal aliens.- SECOND
SECOND, the thought of deporting illegals without controlling the border makes as much sense as shoveling water uphill. The only thing that you ever posted on the topic that makes the slightest bit of sense is cracking down- HARD- on people who employ illegal aliens, because that can be done irrespective of what happens to the flow of migrants.

But more importantly: You got hoist on your own petard. YOU wanted an America where people couldn't agree on anything. Now Americans can't even agree on deporting illegal immigrants. Welcome to the nation that you wanted!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, agreement does not come easy for Americans. They have all kinds of strongly held opinions, pro or con, but they are not strong people, except in their imaginations. They become weaklings in reality when it comes time for Americans to stop arguing and make a decision, then paying the full price. The majority suddenly becomes the "undecided" or the "not sure". The price seems too high. They want to talk about it some more. And then some more after that. And even more, because the actual price scares them. A concrete example might make this clearer.

Trump and Signym want a Wall. Great decision! What are you willing to pay for it to get the Democrats' votes? What is their price? Don't offer the Democrats an end to the shutdown. That is what Trump wants for himself. Trump does not want to be blamed for the shutdown so he offers the Democrats an end, but that is exactly the same as Trump giving himself a two part gift: the Wall plus the Shutdown Ends. The real price for the Trump Wall is what the Democrats, not Trump, want. Is Trump willing to learn that price then pay it? If not willing, too bad about the Wall not being built. Trump and Signym will have to live and die without what their mighty hearts' desire.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:48 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Wrong, again, 6ix. I have a real deep hostility toward Trump-voting Texans who have hired illegal aliens.- SECOND
SECOND, the thought of deporting illegals without controlling the border makes as much sense as shoveling water uphill. The only thing that you ever posted on the topic that makes the slightest bit of sense is cracking down- HARD- on people who employ illegal aliens, because that can be done irrespective of what happens to the flow of migrants.

Post of the Year.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:16 AM

Alexandra Pelosi on Wednesday offered high praise for her mother's negotiating skills. In an interview, Alexandra Pelosi was asked about her thoughts on the lawmaker's shutdown discussions with President Trump ahead of a White House meeting with congressional leaders scheduled for Wednesday afternoon.

“She’ll cut your head off and you won’t even know you’re bleeding,” Alexandra Pelosi said of the likely incoming House Speaker. "No one ever won betting against Nancy Pelosi. You've got to give her credit, no matter what you think of her."

Pointing to her mother's long-standing House service through several presidencies, she added that it should "make you sleep at night" that "at least somebody in this town knows what they're doing."

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/423482-pelosis-daugh
ter-my-mom-will-cut-your-head-off-and-you-wont


I hope Alexandra is correct about Nancy. I hope that the Democrats don't believe Trump when he claims his Wall is for "the National Security." That negotiating trick has been used thousands of times since 1945 and Democrats keep falling for it. I hope this time they make Trump pay for his Wall, not giving it to him for free because he says the magic words "the National Security."
www.vox.com/2019/1/2/18165019/trump-border-wall-messaging-incoherent

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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