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Saturday, December 1, 2018 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Faced with Cohen’s admissions in court on Thursday, Trump at first tried to bully his way out of the corner by saying that Cohen was a “weak person and not a very smart person.” But he quickly switched gears and effectively confirmed what Cohen had said. “There was a good chance that I wouldn’t have won [the election], in which case I would have gotten back into the business, and why should I lose lots of opportunities [with Russians]?”

Trump’s comments show the coarse, cynical approach he takes toward public service. But more ominously for him, they also reveal that he had much deeper connections to Russia in the midst of the campaign than he has ever previously acknowledged. It suggests that Trump will lie about his Russian connections until he realizes he can no longer get away with it, and then will quite casually admit that he has been lying all along.



You call it cynical. I call it pragmatic.

This doesn't reveal anything of the sort. It was known that Trump had business dealings with Russia. There are 144 million people living in Russia. Why would you automatically assume that any business he had there was tied to evil Russian high ranking members looking to infiltrate American Government unless that was what you wanted to believe? Further, if Mueller comes out and says that nothing nefarious was going on with Trump and Russia will you drop your 2 year long campaign?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, December 1, 2018 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You call it cynical. I call it pragmatic.

Pragmatic my ass, 6ix. Even with leaders whom he has tried to befriend, Trump hasn’t done so in ways that give him leverage. Russian President Vladimir Putin has corrupted U.S. elections, poisoned exiles in allied nations, and abetted mass killings in Syria — all to no objection from Trump. But now that Trump has an opportunity to exert some pressure over Russia’s recent naval aggression against Ukraine, he’s backed away; he canceled a one-on-one meeting he and Putin were scheduled to hold at the G-20. He canceled the session ostensibly as a protest against Russia’s actions. But a protest would have been more potent if he had held the meeting and made the U.S. position clear, especially since our position on Russia isn’t clear at all. Trump’s Cabinet secretaries and U.N. ambassador denounce Putin for one thing or another, but Trump says little, often contradicting his experts, leaving Putin with the sense that he might get away with whatever he wants to do.

One likely explanation is that Trump didn’t want to have a meeting where he would have to criticize Putin.

And here, special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation comes into play. Just before the summit, Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen revealed that his client was angling to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, even offering Putin the $50 million penthouse apartment, at the same time that he was running for president, promising to restore good relations with Russia if elected and telling his crowds that he had no business deals in that country. This is the blackmail that Putin may have been holding over Trump all along. Quite aside from the scuzzy (and possibly impeachable) nature of this relationship, it precludes Trump—and prevents the United States—from having a coherent policy toward Russia, from dealing with any threats (or opportunities) that Putin poses.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 1, 2018 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to be confused.
Of course all disasters are caused by Democraps, and whenever Democrats have royally hosed things up, they blame Republicans, and Libtards believe every lie they're told.



I don't agree that all disasters are created by one party, and both parties are equally culpable in blaming the other. This is why nothing will ever get fixed and our government is broken.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Why can't the U.S. solve Big Problems before the problem boils over into a crisis? The system of government gets in the country’s way. The problems are deeply rooted in the Constitution. It took a brutal Civil War to end slavery. Bankers avoided regulation until the financial system totally collapsed in the early 1930s. Americans saw southern police brutality on their television sets before civil-rights legislation could get through Congress. It is a deliberately poorly designed system of government intended to let the 50 states run pretty much without interference from the Federal Government until there is a MAJOR crisis, as the Constitutional Convention intended back in May 27, 1787 to Sep 17, 1787.
-- www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/us-bad-big-problems-like-cli
mate-change/576802
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Sunday, December 2, 2018 2:06 AM

It looks like Trumps been in office long enough now for his economic decisions to begin reversing Obamas recovery. Here's where the fortune five hundred companies start to desert him.

T


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THG
Sunday, December 2, 2018 2:18 AM

Buckle Up: Next Week Is Going to Be a Busy One for Robert Mueller. Next up on the list is Mueller’s side of the Paul Manafort story.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/buckle-up-next-week-is-going-t
o-be-a-busy-one-for-robert-mueller/ar-BBQjG1w?ocid=spartanntp


tick tock
T


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Sunday, December 2, 2018 4:22 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You call it cynical. I call it pragmatic.

Pragmatic my ass, 6ix. Even with leaders whom he has tried to befriend, Trump hasn’t done so in ways that give him leverage. Russian President Vladimir Putin has corrupted U.S. elections



I'm going to stop you right there. This is alleged, and the verdict is still out on this. Just because you've been saying it for two years doesn't make it true.

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Sunday, December 2, 2018 4:23 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Buckle Up: Next Week Is Going to Be a Busy One for Robert Mueller. Next up on the list is Mueller’s side of the Paul Manafort story.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/buckle-up-next-week-is-going-t
o-be-a-busy-one-for-robert-mueller/ar-BBQjG1w?ocid=spartanntp


tick tock
T






lol. I called it.

This monday, for sure? We're talking about the 3rd of December, 2017, right?

I'll ask you again next weekend for clarification.

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Sunday, December 2, 2018 5:39 AM

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It looks like Trumps been in office long enough now for his economic decisions to begin reversing Obamas recovery.

T



aaahhhhhhhaaaaaaahhaahhaahaahaahaahahaha.

Delusion of the Week.

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Sunday, December 2, 2018 6:26 PM

An ex-prosecutor believes that Mueller has a major problem. Can you spot Mueller’s problem?

If Mueller thinks Trump committed a federal crime, his remedy is to recommend impeachment in a report to the attorney general. The attorney general, in turn, is supposed to tell Congress the outcome of the special counsel’s investigation and decide whether the report should be made public. Did you catch the problem? The acting attorney general is Matthew Whitaker, Trump’s creature and a vigorous critic of Mueller’s investigation. Mueller has every reason to expect that Whitaker will suppress the report and limit what he shows to Congress.

A formal report is not, however, Mueller’s only way to tell the Nation (and the GOP controlled senate, which will never impeach) about his conclusions. Mueller could make his report to the Nation through court filings against Trump confederates like Manafort and Cohen. On Monday, Mueller accused Manafort of lying to investigators, breaching his cooperation agreement, and committing further federal crimes. The sentencing briefs will let Mueller tell the story of how Manafort lied about the Trump campaign — and, by extension, lay out the evidence of what the Trump campaign did.

Cohen’s case lets Mueller do the same thing — tell a story, make a report — despite the GOP’s efforts to hush Mueller.

The remarkable thing about Cohen’s plea was its substance. The president of the United States’ personal lawyer admitted to lying to Congress about the president’s business activities with a hostile foreign power, in order to support the president’s story. In any rational era, that would be earthshaking. Now it’s barely a blip. Over the past two years, we’ve become accustomed to headlines like “President’s Campaign Manager Convicted of Fraud” and “President’s Personal Lawyer Paid for Adult Actress’s Silence.” We’re numb to it all. But these are the sorts of developments that would, under normal circumstances, end a presidency.

They still might. Cohen’s plea is only one shoe dropping in a boot warehouse. Who else lied to Congress? They’re not just in danger from Mueller, either. In weeks the Democratic majority will take over the House of Representatives. Control of committees will shift, and subpoenas will fly like arrows at Agincourt. Each hearing will present new terrible choices: Take the Fifth, tell uncomfortable truths, or lie and court perjury charges?

I wouldn’t expect President Trump’s agitated tweets to stop anytime soon.

More at www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/three-remarkable-things-abou
t-michael-cohens-plea/577015
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 2, 2018 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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It looks like Trumps been in office long enough now for his economic decisions to begin reversing Obamas recovery.

T



aaahhhhhhhaaaaaaahhaahhaahaahaahaahahaha.

Delusion of the Week.

Liar of the Century:

Trump denied his business with Russia for years
https://thinkprogress.org/timeline-trump-denials-russia-business-cohen
-admission-putin-campaign-d2c8872a633b
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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