So.... About this "Caravan"
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Quote:huh? We "care" about Ukraine because OUR elections have been "interfered with? DOOD, your sequence is fucked up. "WE" went into Ukraine in 2014. OUR elections were "interfered with" in 2016.
The ironical part, screeching tires notwithstanding, is that you didn't get
what I was getting at:
Namely that, we do care because it's been done to us. I remember watching a 60 minutes type broadcast when the Russians invaded Ukraine, with a real army and not the "fake" caravan invasion of 2018; and listening to a Ukraine soldier say to a Russian soldier "the Americans are with us."
It's impossible to have a discussion with people who can't even keep their years in sequence, and you, son, seem to be having a problem with that, Orientation X4 not quite working for you? The answer is NOT in the bottom of a bottle, son!
Quote:Oh BALONEY!
I don't know why I'm explaining this. You seem to have some semblance of intelligence, you know what I'm talking about. But noooooo, you want to play that game. Yes, we do care.
If you really care about someone, do you kill them?
OF COURSE NOT!
Then why does our "caring" always seem to come with missiles and bombs attached?
Look, I "get" that you'd like to believe in our high ideals, and that you personally probably feel highly idealistic about "those poor people out there" but your idealism is being taken gross advantage of by people who simply count YOU as a reliable dupe.
Quote:Indeed. If you want to see WHO interfered with out elections ... and believe me, there are many on that list ... start with Britain and it's made-up "dossier" and sting operation against Trump, and then work your way thru the "donors" to the "Clinton Foundation" including Saudi Arabia and Ukraine.PutinBritain has interfered in our elections, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this. And so, here we are.
Quote:The world doesn't run on "belief". If our thoughts don't conform to reality, we run the risk of getting steamrolled by events that we didn't see coming.
You believe as you do, and I believe as I do.
You should inform your heartfelt idealism with reality once in a while to see if the results are matching your intentions.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Originally posted by THG:
Is it here yet?
Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.
Fucking dummies. T
It's a constant flow.
BTW. Polacks are white, dummy. Ask me how I know.
And the first sentence of your "witty" comment you seem to love since you keep posting it is written wrong.
It should read as follows:
Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews? Polaks.
Is English your second language?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Donald Trump has sent a total of 0 tweets on the caravan since the election, 45 before.
If the caravan was such a threat to the country in the middle of October -- so much so that Trump dispatched troops to the border to deal with the "threat" -- then how can they be less of a threat today? They're closer to the border today than they were three weeks ago, right? Right.
And yet, silence from Trump.
www.cnn.com/2018/11/14/politics/donald-trump-caravan/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah. It kind of disappeared like Hope and Change.
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The tweets may have changed but USA actions are ongoing ...
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Trump Suspends Some Asylum Rights, Calling Illegal Immigration ‘a Crisis’
Nov. 9, 2018
WASHINGTON — President Trump proclaimed on Friday that the illegal entry of immigrants across the southern border of the United States was detrimental to the national interest, spurring tough changes that will deny asylum to all migrants who do not enter through official border crossings.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/us/politics/trump-asylum-seekers-ex
ecutive-order.html
I applaud Trump's action on this. Even CONSIDERING asylum for illegal border-crossers is simply rewarding illegal behavior. They request asylum, are given a court date and either detained (where we are responsible for food, shelter, and healthcare, treating illegal aliens better than we treat our own homeless people) or let loose in society, while 60% never show up at court.
This policy also makes it possible to immediately deport people who have illegally crossed the border because no asylum status will even be considered.
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US hardens border at Tijuana to prepare for migrant caravan
IXTLAN DEL RIO, Mexico (AP) — The U.S. government said it was starting work Tuesday to “harden” the border crossing from Tijuana, Mexico, to prepare for the arrival of a migrant caravan leapfrogging its way across western Mexico.
Customs and Border Protection announced it was closing four lanes at the busy San Ysidro and Otay Mesa ports of entry in San Diego, California.
It said the closures were needed “to install and pre-position port hardening infrastructure equipment in preparation for the migrant caravan and the potential safety and security risk that it could cause.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5675865/Caravan-migrants-turne
d-away-SECOND-day.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490%20%20%20%20%20%20
However ...
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Migrants from caravan begin climbing border fence in Tijuana
The first wave of migrants from the Central American caravan began climbing border fences on Tuesday after arriving at the U.S. border.
Many on the Mexican side of the border climbed the fence and sat or walked on top of it, while others jumped and crawled through openings in the fence, only to run back to the Mexico side when U.S. Border Patrol agents approached, Fox 5 San Diego reported...“As we have said repeatedly, being a member of a caravan doesn’t give you any special rights to enter the country,” Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman said in a statement to the Washington Examiner. “If they arrive at a Port of Entry, they will have to wait in line in keeping with the lawful processes at our ports of entry. If they attempt to enter illegally, they will have violated U.S. criminal law and in accordance with the President’s proclamation and the Interim Final Rule they would be ineligible for asylum.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/mi
grants-from-caravan-begin-climbing-border-fence-in-tijuana
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Good.
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So.... About this "Caravan"
Mexico has an update for ya'all
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/16/tijuana-mayor-migrant-caravan-horde/
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Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastelum said Thursday that caravan migrants arriving by the hundreds are no longer welcome, an increasingly common sentiment among residents of the Mexican border city.
Gastelum described the caravan of Central American migrants as a “horde” that has been infiltrated by criminals who now threaten the community, in an interview with Milenio Television.
“Tijuana is a city of immigrants, but we don’t want them in this way,” the mayor, a member of the conservative National Action Party, said. “It was different with the Haitians, they carried papers, they were in order. It wasn’t a horde, pardon the expression.”
Gastelum called on the Mexican government to deport the caravan migrants as soon as possible.
“You’re going to tell me we have to respect human rights,” he said. “But human rights are for law-abiding humans.”
The mayor’s comments reflected anger among many Tijuana residents at the increasing number of caravan migrants who have been streaming into the city since last weekend. About 3,000 were there as of Thursday night, and thousands more are expected to arrive over the coming weeks.
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From what I read, we only process about 90 of them a day.
This small amount coupled with Trump's order to bar any asylum seekers future consideration after being arrested entering illegally is a wonderful strategy, although I can't blame Tijuana for not appreciating having to deal with the problem until we get around to it.
Mexico will likely do a better job keeping them from entering their own country illegally in the first place if we make it their problem as well.
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SIX: Indeed. As long as Mexicans felt that they could "deal with" the immigrant problem by passing it northward, they didn't care. Now ...
Quote:Wait. somebody had the gall to insinuate that Mexicans .... who are also Spanish-speaking "borwn people" ... might be "racist" against other Spanish-speaking brown people??
Protesters march against migrant caravan in Tijuana; Police respond with riot gear
TIJUANA, Mexico — Hundreds of Tijuana residents, opposed to what they described as the "chaos" of the Central American migrant caravan, gathered at a prominent roundabout in Tijuana Sunday morning, before marching to a large, temporary shelter, which now holds about 2,400 migrants.
They chanted “Mexico! Mexico!” and “yes to migrants, no to invaders!” They sang the national anthem and waved Mexican flags and banners and signs, with messages urging the migrants to go home and urging the government to take action.
Some protesters said Mexico doesn’t have the resources to care for its own people, let alone migrants from Central America. They pointed to communities affected by a recent hurricane that hit Sinaloa and Nayarit, which caused flooding and other damage, as well as the homicide rate in Tijuana, which has reached an all-time high.
“Our country doesn’t have the resources to sustain itself,” said Tijuana resident Guadalupe Barrera. She held a sign that read in Spanish “no more caravans.”
Barrera said the protesters are not racist
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but they oppose how the migrants entered the county.
“This is not racism,” she said. “We are opposed to the invasion.”
She also said she’s concerned that the presence of the caravan would cause the U.S. to close the border, jeopardizing people who live by the Mexican border and depend on the U.S. economy.
Some said the Mexican government should follow President Donald Trump in enacting stricter border policies. They said the government should secure the southern border with Guatemala and require all immigrants to enter legally.
https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/immigration/2018/11/19/protests
-tijuana-migrant-caravan-sunday/2051152002/
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I applaud Trump's action on this. Even CONSIDERING asylum for illegal border-crossers is simply rewarding illegal behavior.
Say, did your dad come from another country? Did he sit outside the US patiently for months/years, and file papers, or did he just show up asking for entry? I don't recall the story.
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