So.... About this "Caravan"
POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Friday, November 8, 2024 16:11
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JSF ...
Currently, my hubby's workplace pays $2600/ mo for insurance for three people. The rates at my former employer were about the same. There is TREMENDOUS amount of money being collected and paid for health care: Medicare taxes, individually-paid policies, employer contributions, county taxes (which run the healthcare-of-last-resort county hospitals); deductibles, etc etc.
I think it would be interesting to add up ALL of the money being sunk into healthcare and see if that would be sufficient to fund "Medicare for everyone". I know that one of the arguments that some people make is "Your taxes will go up astronomically!!!!" but if you look at what large employers are currently paying, it would simply be a transfer of payment from one health insurer (private) to another (government). And since Medicare is a non-profit, and it's administrative costs are extraordinarily low (4% was the figure I heard quoted) that would immediately free up at least 15% of the money currently going to shareholders, CEOs, bean-counters and advertising firms into ACTUAL HEALTH CARE.
In addition, Medicare SHOULD be able to negotiate for best Rx prices. There are a lot of reforms to make Medicare function better, but even as-is it functions a lot better than HMOs and for-profit insurances.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Quote:The question is how does this make sense for the deep state, since the deep state and the Dems seem to have wedded.
You still haven't come close to explaining how getting the caravan to the border before the election makes any sense for Dems.
So, you get a large number of people together where tensions are running high, crank it up to a fever pitch, hire a few snipers to shoot a number of people, and blame the fall guy. It's not like it hasn't been done before.
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Quote:Claiming that Signy and I are afraid of illegals and responding as if we've made that argument are called ad hominem argument and strawman argument, respectively --- both of which are logical fallacies, and therefore unethical in an honest argument.
Originally posted by second:
All he does is keep on talking, talking, talking to pander to the fears of voters like 1kiki and Signym. When will he stop talking and finish building that Wall?
But I don't believe Trump will give the orders. He will simply keep on talking, talking, talking to pander to the fears of voters like 1kiki and Signym.
You're nor being blatantly dishonest, are you SECOND?
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Quote:The reason Trump doesn't do as you'd like and deploy the entire US military along the border is because your suggestion is ILLEGAL, SECOND.
Originally posted by second:
As a temporary expediency in the areas where there is no Texas/Mexico Wall, I think Trump needs to use his troops. He has already started to move a few toward the border, too few. He has not sent nearly enough troops to substitute for his Wall. The logic of the situation is that Trump needs to tell his troops to stand between any illegal aliens that approach the border and protect Americans. But I don't believe Trump will give the orders. He will simply keep on talking, talking, talking to pander to the fears of voters like 1kiki and Signym.
Trump has 1,347,106 active troops. Why has he not ordered all of them to the Texas/Mexico border? Why does Trump not give the order?
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
The Posse Comitatus Act, which passed after the Civil War to keep federal troops from policing the South, limits federal troops’ deployment on U.S. soil and forbids using them to enforce domestic laws.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-military-bo
rder-20180403-story.html
Surely you're not faulting Trump for following the law, are you SECOND?
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So, aside from ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, and berating Trump for not breaking the law ...
... do you have anything relevant to add about illegal immigration, SECOND?
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Why don't you ask Trump? He seems to know how, when and where this is all happening. He "knows" that the "caravan" is infiltrated by Muslims hitchiking all the way from Iran, or was it Saudi Arabia? He also seems to know that MS-13 has operatives in the crowd. So, why not ask him? I'm sure that he will give you the answer.
SGG
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Is anybody else getting tired of being played yet?...
This is a reality show...
I suspect it could also be Trump himself that is funding this...
This whole fucking thing is so ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this is exactly how it goes down.
I agree with most uv your post. The only exeption iz that I'm sure its Trump or hiz puppet master running it. It duznt take much money, so I think they will be able to keep their fingerprints off uv it.
To you and me it would be a ton of money. To people like Second, assuming he actually has money, it wouldn't be all that much.
There are over 300,000 people in this country that wouldn't have any problem funding this.
I'm going to laugh if this ends up being Joey Salad's best (or worst) youtube "prank" of all time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Sure thing. I'll get on my Batphone and give him a call.
Let you know what he says as soon as I've got the 411.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you get a large number of people together where tensions are running high, crank it up to a fever pitch, hire a few snipers to shoot a number of people, and blame the fall guy. It's not like it hasn't been done before.
It was always very telling that you had so much outrage and bitterness towards Ukrainians who wanted to govern themselves rather than suffer under a Russian puppet. It would have been much more *American* of you to applaud their struggle for independence.
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Quote:DOOD, THEY HAD ELECTIONS. That's why Yanukovich was President.
It was always very telling that you had so much outrage and bitterness towards Ukrainians who wanted to govern themselves...
And when their elected government decided that it wanted to be BOTH in the EU AND in the EEU, that was when the USA/EU decided that indeed, the Ukrainians' elected government wasn't good enough for our power structure, and they decided to destabilize it and put in puppets of their own.
Did you recall how Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, got a cushy job with the largest Ukrainian natgas company right after the overthrow of the Yanukovich government?
No?
I think it's too bad that WE didn't let the Ukrainians "govern themselves".
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Quote:Deadline is today.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Sure thing. I'll get on my Batphone and give him a call.
Let you know what he says as soon as I've got the 411.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Did they arrive at the Border yet?
Did the busses break down?
Did the busses return for another load?
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