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So.... About this "Caravan"

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Friday, October 26, 2018 7:52 PM

My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 26, 2018 8:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Employers who knowingly hire people who are in the country illegally are not facing meaningful consequences. ICE says it is enforcing the law, but they are bullshitting you. One hundred raids on 7-Elevens, when there are 50 states, is not the same as meaningfully enforcing the law. It is closer to pretending to enforce. More like making a show for TV news so that ICE can avoid doing really significant enforcement, with thousands of raids every month, raids where the employer is the target, not the employees. Employers will soon get the message if thousands of them spend one night in jail before being bailed out. Best of all, Congress would not need to pass any new laws for Trump's signature.

In the past – and specifically during the Bush presidency – raids that harmed business interests provoked an outcry from employers that had come to rely on immigrant labor, especially in the agriculture and meatpacking industries, which had powerful lobbies in Congress. Although President Ronald Reagan had signed a law two decades earlier making it illegal for employers to knowingly hire or recruit people who are in the country illegally, large-scale enforcement actions weren't carried out in earnest until Bush. The industries saw the raids as a draconian response to what had become standard work practices, and they pressured lawmakers in the nation's capital to push back against such actions.

More at www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-22/is-ice-finally-t
argeting-employers-of-illegal-workers


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 26, 2018 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.



Why would your wages go up? Why would someone pay you more for the same job? Wait - are you an illegal Mexican?

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Friday, October 26, 2018 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I noticed that jobs which were $10/hr about 22 months ago are now about $14. That seems a steep curve.

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THG
Friday, October 26, 2018 11:14 PM

The 1951 Refugee Convention gives migrants the right to apply for asylum in the United States, regardless of whether they entered or remained in the country legally or illegally.

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Saturday, October 27, 2018 6:15 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Employers who knowingly hire people who are in the country illegally are not facing meaningful consequences. ICE says it is enforcing the law, but they are bullshitting you. One hundred raids on 7-Elevens, when there are 50 states, is not the same as meaningfully enforcing the law. It is closer to pretending to enforce. More like making a show for TV news so that ICE can avoid doing really significant enforcement, with thousands of raids every month, raids where the employer is the target, not the employees. Employers will soon get the message if thousands of them spend one night in jail before being bailed out. Best of all, Congress would not need to pass any new laws for Trump's signature.

In the past – and specifically during the Bush presidency – raids that harmed business interests provoked an outcry from employers that had come to rely on immigrant labor, especially in the agriculture and meatpacking industries, which had powerful lobbies in Congress. Although President Ronald Reagan had signed a law two decades earlier making it illegal for employers to knowingly hire or recruit people who are in the country illegally, large-scale enforcement actions weren't carried out in earnest until Bush. The industries saw the raids as a draconian response to what had become standard work practices, and they pressured lawmakers in the nation's capital to push back against such actions.



Oh... I know they don't enforce the laws. You probably should have quoted the post where I said they don't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 27, 2018 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My wages would go up too. I'm not worried about it.



Why would your wages go up? Why would someone pay you more for the same job? Wait - are you an illegal Mexican?



Because wages in general would go up when your remove the sinkhole at the bottom keeping everything down.

You're talking to the wrong guy about the wrong things here, bud. I might not have ever gotten that college degree, but I aced all my Econ classes and I'll smoke you when it comes to anything regarding money.

You'd be better off sticking around your liberal arts safe spaces.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 27, 2018 6:21 AM

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Literally, this is all Trump.



The ONLY thing Trump is good at inspiring... is getting mad people to go for long walks




Oh... good. He's going to make America thin again too.

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Saturday, October 27, 2018 2:08 PM

I heard a 3rd caravan is starting from Honduras.

Boy, these huddled masses get great newsfeeds, and organizational synchronization.

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Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because wages in general would go up when your remove the sinkhole at the bottom keeping everything down.

You're talking to the wrong guy about the wrong things here, bud. I might not have ever gotten that college degree, but I aced all my Econ classes and I'll smoke you when it comes to anything regarding money.

You'd be better off sticking around your liberal arts safe spaces.



A challenge? Cool, smoke this:

So you never did explain why you would get paid more for the same job, just "because I read something once that said I would. Kinda." Where does this money suddenly come from to pay you your new wage? Unless it's legally mandated in your specific situation it ain't happening, and *if* that were to happen then the owners would raise the price of their products/services to pay for it like I just said.

Theories look great in print and may wow some 20 somethings, but textbooks aren't real life. I have enough real life econ knowledge to know that the only theory you can count on is Greed. You aren't getting paid more just because some professor put that in his book.

So what are you doing with that fancy econ knowledge you think you have, anyway? Stacking boxes?

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