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So.... About this "Caravan"

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Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And cue the pointless personal attack in 3...2..1..



And cue the pointless pity party for one of the nastiest name calling mud slinging trolls on this site - like clockwork.

SIGNYM: "California is a "sanctuary state","
Which does not mean "open borders."

SIGNYM: "so in addition to CA Dems opposing "the wall"
Which still does not mean "open borders."

SIGNYM: "they also refuse to allow the CA National Guard help patrol the border"
And for good reason:
https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article208046609.html

"California doesn't need National Guard troops doing the job of Border Patrol agents anymore than we need our police officers to do the job of Immigration and Custom Enforcement agents. Plus, it's wholly unnecessary.

The number of apprehensions and illegal border crossings — including in California — has been dropping steadily for more than a decade, down from about 1.8 million in 2005 to less than 304,000 in 2017, the lowest number in 37 years. Illegal immigration from Mexico —Trump’s favorite target — also is at the lowest it has been in 50 years.

SIGNYM: "and actively oppose enforcing immigration laws."
Which ones? The bad ones?? CITES!

SIGNYM: "That, plus De Leon's call to "abolish ICE", which garnered the endorsement of the CA Democratic Party."
Wrong again, SIGGY - more honestly, Repeal and Replace ICE.

https://bit.ly/2EK3l42

"Does “Abolish ICE” mean ending immigration enforcement?
No legislator has proposed that.
Mijente, a national Latinx organization, has proposed not just getting rid of ICE, but also defunding CBP, ending privately-run detention centers, prohibiting use of the military in enforcing immigration policies, and more. But this sweeping reform hasn’t been endorsed by any Member of Congress.
Even if a legislator were to call for the elimination of ICE with no replacement —-which no legislator has —-immigration enforcement would nevertheless continue. Although CBP patrols the so-called border, the law defines the U.S. border to contain two-thirds of the country’s population. CBP might pick up the slack if ICE were eliminated, and could be tasked to enforce the laws left on the books that ICE currently enforces."

SIGTROLL: "If that isn't an "open border" policy, I don't know what is."
Clearly it isn't and you don't.
But... you know all that. You make it harder and harder not to see you as a Russian or a simple anti-American agitator.

One thing is for sure: you are either completely uneducated about this issue, or you're lying like a mutha.

Hard to conjure that G-string/CC/pizmobeach can be this dense.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 12:30 PM

I heard there is supposed to be a special crossover unified episode of this show.

The caravan from Guatemala is only 1,000 but have been paid to join up with the 14,000 invaders from Honduras.
Maybe Soros will need to get a few busses to get them further along their scripted route.

I'm not even sure if the Honduras Invaders and Guatemalan trailers are on the same network.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:41 PM

It's just a spin-off.

Rumors of a cross-over are just rumors as of now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:49 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And cue the pointless personal attack in 3...2..1..



And cue the pointless pity party for one of the nastiest name calling mud slinging trolls on this site - like clockwork.

SIGNYM: "California is a "sanctuary state","
Which does not mean "open borders."

SIGNYM: "so in addition to CA Dems opposing "the wall"
Which still does not mean "open borders."

SIGNYM: "they also refuse to allow the CA National Guard help patrol the border"
And for good reason:
https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article208046609.html

"California doesn't need National Guard troops doing the job of Border Patrol agents anymore than we need our police officers to do the job of Immigration and Custom Enforcement agents. Plus, it's wholly unnecessary.

The number of apprehensions and illegal border crossings — including in California — has been dropping steadily for more than a decade, down from about 1.8 million in 2005 to less than 304,000 in 2017, the lowest number in 37 years. Illegal immigration from Mexico —Trump’s favorite target — also is at the lowest it has been in 50 years.

SIGNYM: "and actively oppose enforcing immigration laws."
Which ones? The bad ones?? CITES!

SIGNYM: "That, plus De Leon's call to "abolish ICE", which garnered the endorsement of the CA Democratic Party."
Wrong again, SIGGY - more honestly, Repeal and Replace ICE.

https://bit.ly/2EK3l42

"Does “Abolish ICE” mean ending immigration enforcement?
No legislator has proposed that.
Mijente, a national Latinx organization, has proposed not just getting rid of ICE, but also defunding CBP, ending privately-run detention centers, prohibiting use of the military in enforcing immigration policies, and more. But this sweeping reform hasn’t been endorsed by any Member of Congress.
Even if a legislator were to call for the elimination of ICE with no replacement —-which no legislator has —-immigration enforcement would nevertheless continue. Although CBP patrols the so-called border, the law defines the U.S. border to contain two-thirds of the country’s population. CBP might pick up the slack if ICE were eliminated, and could be tasked to enforce the laws left on the books that ICE currently enforces."

SIGTROLL: "If that isn't an "open border" policy, I don't know what is."
Clearly it isn't and you don't.
But... you know all that. You make it harder and harder not to see you as a Russian or a simple anti-American agitator.

One thing is for sure: you are either completely uneducated about this issue, or you're lying like a mutha.

Hard to conjure that G-string/CC/pizmobeach can be this dense.



Pretty obvious "conjuring" ain't one of your specialties.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second and G talking about what the "facts" are when there are no known facts regarding this issue.



Hmmm, which "facts" did I get wrong?

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:02 PM

Obviously, GSTRING, you don't live in California.

Being a "sanctuary state" doesn't mean that local PDs and other agencies don't help enforce the "bad" immigration laws (PLEASE TELL US WHICH LAWS THOSE ARE) they aren't helping enforce ANY immigration laws.

California has the highest number of illegal aliens in the nation. Obviously, from the sheer number of illegal aliens living here. ICE CAN'T do the job by themselves. Illegal aliens here feel entitled to live and work here because there is no "downside" ... illegal workers aren't deported, their families are given all kinds of consideration from public health to public schools- putting huge strains on systems because of all of their unresolved health, emotional, and language problems ... to which they don't contribute because if they're working in the gray economy they don't pay income taxes.

There are swaths of LA and surrounding cities which are just giant gang territories made up of illegal aliens ... I know people who've lived there and been intimidated out of those neighborhoods by having bricks thrown thru their windows, or being kidnapped and held at knifepoint. Round 'em all up and deport 'em, I say. If you're not a citizen and you don't have a valid visa, you don't belong here.

And if you have a visa and you're working here... learning fucking English and make at least a TINY attempt to integrate.

****

But, if you think accepting unlimited numbers of unintegrated illegal aliens is such a fine idea, maybe we could send a few million over to YOUR hometown. Sound like a plan?



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Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:46 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obviously, GSTRING, you don't live in California.



I use to.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Being a "sanctuary state" doesn't mean that local PDs and other agencies don't help enforce the "bad" immigration laws (PLEASE TELL US WHICH LAWS THOSE ARE) they aren't helping enforce ANY immigration laws.



I swear you didn't read your own post, and you certainly didn't read mine. I provided cites as to why that ^ is the case.

Here, try reading again:

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article208046609.html

"California doesn't need National Guard troops doing the job of Border Patrol agents anymore than we need our police officers to do the job of Immigration and Custom Enforcement agents. Plus, it's wholly unnecessary.

The number of apprehensions and illegal border crossings — including in California — has been dropping steadily for more than a decade, down from about 1.8 million in 2005 to less than 304,000 in 2017, the lowest number in 37 years. Illegal immigration from Mexico —Trump’s favorite target — also is at the lowest it has been in 50 years.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
California has the highest number of illegal aliens in the nation. Obviously, from the sheer number of illegal aliens living here. ICE CAN'T do the job by themselves. Illegal aliens here feel entitled to live and work here because there is no "downside" ... illegal workers aren't deported, their families are given all kinds of consideration from public health to public schools- putting huge strains on systems because of all of their unresolved health, emotional, and language problems ... to which they don't contribute because if they're working in the gray economy they don't pay income taxes.



We agree immigration is broken - but that's still not "Democrats want open borders." That is a lie and fear mongering and you know it.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are swaths of LA and surrounding cities which are just giant gang territories made up of illegal aliens ... I know people who've lived there and been intimidated out of those neighborhoods by having bricks thrown thru their windows, or being kidnapped and held at knifepoint. Round 'em all up and deport 'em, I say. If you're not a citizen and you don't have a valid visa, you don't belong here.



Sure ya do ...sounds like BS, but whatever. You can get jacked in all kinds of neighborhoods, with or without immigrants.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, if you think accepting unlimited numbers of unintegrated illegal aliens is such a fine idea, maybe we could send a few million over to YOUR hometown. Sound like a plan?



Just dumb^ - obviously your hatred has cancelled out any logic.

My city has a HUGE Somali immigrant population fwiw - lovely people.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:03 PM

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My city has a HUGE Somali immigrant population fwiw


What, did you think I was talking about LEGAL immigrants? You must be terminally confused!

And I'll bet that they don't make up 5% of your fair city's population, and 25% of your jail population, do they?


So, yeah ... let's send a couple million illegal immigrants to your fair city! It'll make Los Angeles a much nicer place to live, and you'll get to experience the consequences of uncontrolled immigration.

I LIKE that plan!


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Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obviously, GSTRING, you don't live in California.

Being a "sanctuary state" doesn't mean that local PDs and other agencies don't help enforce the "bad" immigration laws (PLEASE TELL US WHICH LAWS THOSE ARE) they aren't helping enforce ANY immigration laws.

California has the highest number of illegal aliens in the nation. Obviously, from the sheer number of illegal aliens living here. ICE CAN'T do the job by themselves. Illegal aliens here feel entitled to live and work here because there is no "downside" ... illegal workers aren't deported, their families are given all kinds of consideration from public health to public schools- putting huge strains on systems because of all of their unresolved health, emotional, and language problems ... to which they don't contribute because if they're working in the gray economy they don't pay income taxes.

There are swaths of LA and surrounding cities which are just giant gang territories made up of illegal aliens ... I know people who've lived there and been intimidated out of those neighborhoods by having bricks thrown thru their windows, or being kidnapped and held at knifepoint. Round 'em all up and deport 'em, I say. If you're not a citizen and you don't have a valid visa, you don't belong here.

And if you have a visa and you're working here... learning fucking English and make at least a TINY attempt to integrate.

****

But, if you think accepting unlimited numbers of unintegrated illegal aliens is such a fine idea, maybe we could send a few million over to YOUR hometown. Sound like a plan?

That description sounds like California has open borders.
Only a complete moron wouldn't be able to see that.

I lived in CA for some years, but CA had not yet become a province of Mexico. That turning point may have been when Illegal Aliens were allowed to vote, and Sanchez was given the Seat vs Dornan.

Sacramento might feel that mountain range makes them immune from LA. Or maybe if they have Winter the Illegal Aliens won't venture there.

You did seem to skip the fact that Illegal Aliens perpetrate 3 times the crimes as Americans do.


BTW, which State in America shares a land border with Somalia? A person would need to be lobotomized to think that was equivalent.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:10 PM

Meh. Don't even get frustrated by these goons.

It's not going to turn out the way that they want, and because of the current makeup of the Supreme Court there will be hearings involving all of these illegal activities and the illegal immigration will come to an end.

Just have to wait for the mid-terms and the reality shows to come to an end first.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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