Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Only 2,400 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
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Quote:It doesn't sound like Trump made nearly as much as the purchasers of New Amsterdam.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Basically, Fred Trump would turn over some piece of property to Donald Trump as a gift and value it at, say, $10 million. A year later Donald would sell it for $50 million."
But Fred Trump doesn't put the value on the property - an appraiser does. And the sale price is the result of a negotiation between buyer and seller - Donald Trump might just have found really motivated buyers.
I'm pointing out that fraud would be hard to prove.
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Purchased from a Manahatta Tribe in 1626 for 60 Guilders, about $1,200 in today's Dollar.
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Quote:A better point is that the IRS "audits" (ha-ha-ha) the Trump tax returns, but it depends on Trump to honestly calculate the tax. A real audit would look at the hypothetical price of the real estate, a price that a tax payer is strongly motivated to low ball, and compare it to other properties that are selling recently. The IRS does NOT do that; it depends on DONALD to honestly do that.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Basically, Fred Trump would turn over some piece of property to Donald Trump as a gift and value it at, say, $10 million. A year later Donald would sell it for $50 million."
But Fred Trump doesn't put the value on the property - an appraiser does. And the sale price is the result of a negotiation between buyer and seller - Donald Trump might just have found really motivated buyers.
I'm pointing out that fraud would be hard to prove.
The Trumps have been testing since Donald was a baby how much real auditing is going on at the IRS. As the years go by, the Trump get more extreme about cheating, because they know that nobody is looking, at least until the NYTimes looked. The IRS was falsely told that the price is a 5th of the actual price, later claiming a 16th of the actual price. There was one property the Trumps valued at less than zero, claiming it needed renovation. That is about as extreme cheating as you can get, but the IRS did NOT notice, because that property was lumped into some other properties being transferred to Donald.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You proved it with this one long answer ( although I always strongly suspected ) that you are far more agile than I. That's the person I wanted revealed. I hope there is less and less trouble in your future!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My most valuable currency today is my time. I might not ever make myself rich off of it, but maybe I can help enrich the lives of others one day with it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I really want to believe that you're being genuine here. It just seems such an about face from our previous interactions the last 2 years of my sobriety. (I can't speak for anything before that, since I honestly don't remember you or having conversations with you before I was sober).
For now though, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and take what you say at face value, because people can and do change. I would hope that if nothing else, my fall into the void and clawing my way back out of it day by day would at least be proof that people can change.
I see a shift. It's small, but it's noticeable to those who are paying attention. I noticed it with you before anybody else.
I'd imagine that the more you're vested in any of this that it's got to be exhausting to be battling it out with people who really aren't your enemies every single day.
I'm no New Age hippie tree hugger, even though I have gone gluten free, but this shit has got to stop man. It's not good for any of us to be at each other's throats every day.
I know that I've been saying things along those lines here for a while, and I also know that I've had moments of weakness where I get triggered and jump back into it. But it feels good seeing that the tides may be turning.
We might never really agree on anything much at all. But at least we can be civil with each other about things and have conversations about them like adults should be doing. I get the feeling that a lot of stuff happens right in front of us that we should be trying to stop, but we're all too busy insulting each other to even notice them.
Anyways... Thanks. I hope there's less trouble in my future too. I've still got plenty of problems that I let pile up that I'm still trying to sort out. Here's hoping that luck doesn't throw me any wicked curve balls until at least I can get things all back on track.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Good answer, 6ix. Now I'll return to my regular educational programming: How Crooked Is Trump?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do Right, Be Right. :)
When the New York Times talks about the grantor-retained annuity trust (GRAT), I think every estate planner will tell you all wealthy planners use GRATs. They do reduce clients’ taxes, but falsifying the valuation of the property that you’re putting into that trust, that’s illegal. That’s where the Trumps pushed it too far. They supercharged it.
If the Trumps falsified valuations or played really aggressively with them, that’s different. If they used these shell corporations to rig the rate increases in the rent-stabilized apartments, that’s something different. There’s smoke there — there could be serious issues there. Now, the president might say, “This is my father. If there was fraud, this was him, not me.” Except the Times has done a good job of showing that Donald Trump was integrally involved in all of this.
Trump used GRATs in a way they weren't intended to be used, by falsifying the value of property, but should there be GRATs at all? The Obama administration tried to shut them down, but it wasn’t passed by Congress. Obama tried a different tactic. If there is going to be GRATs, Obama only wanted to allow them for legitimate business purposes, not to avoid estate and gift taxes. Congress didn’t pass that law either.
More, from an expert, about Trump's illegal tactics and why he got away with it, at
www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/10/3/17934360/trump-taxes-illegal-new-york-
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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In this morning's news, how does South Korea handle a crooked President?
It takes years, but the story ends with:
South Korea jails former president Lee for 15 years on corruption charges
Lee faced charges that he accepted around $10 million in illegal funds from institutions like Samsung and his own intelligence service, fueling ongoing concerns over the cozy ties between government and business leaders.
Lee, 76, has denied any wrongdoing, saying the investigation that led to the trial was politically motivated “revenge” by current President Moon. Trump will also be denying wrong doing, even while being sentenced at 76.
More at www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-politics-corruption/south-korea-
jails-former-president-lee-for-15-years-on-corruption-charges-idUSKCN1MF0J1
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SECOND:
In this morning's news, how does South Korea handle a crooked President?
It takes years, but the story ends with:
South Korea jails former president Lee for 15 years on corruption charges
Lee faced charges that he accepted around $10 million in illegal funds from institutions like Samsung and his own intelligence service, fueling ongoing concerns over the cozy ties between government and business leaders.
Lee, 76, has denied any wrongdoing, saying the investigation that led to the trial was politically motivated “revenge” by current President Moon. Trump will also be denying wrong doing, even while being sentenced at 76.
More at www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-politics-corruption/south-korea-
jails-former-president-lee-for-15-years-on-corruption-charges-idUSKCN1MF0J1
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
If he's guilty, I'm all for it.
But it's got to be more than just a witch hunt to get one man. If he's guilty of what your sources are alleging, there were a LOT of other people involved, and they all need to go down as well.
But that's not enough either. It needs to be made EXTREMELY CLEAR how he was able to get away with these alleged crimes, who else was involved, what loopholes or legal gray areas were taken advantage of, and they need to be buttoned up.
But wait... there's more.
Then there needs to be more oversight in the future to make sure that they're not just finding other ways to do this, which you know full well they will find, and those need to be buttoned up as well.
And investigating all of the Clinton and Clinton Foundation's financial shenanigans wouldn't hurt either. And I don't think it would be a tough sell to get Trump voters on board with any of this if Trump doesn't have the Clinton's investigated like he promised, but they're ALL going to be investigated after the fact.
Our government needs an enema. Let's flush 'em all out and start over.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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While Mueller Stays Quiet, Suspicious Trump–Russia Clues Keep Popping Up
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/10/muellers-quiet-but-suspic
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While Mueller Stays Quiet, Suspicious Trump–Russia Clues Keep Popping Up
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