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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches

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Friday, September 14, 2018 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.



Wow. What a strikingly intelligent retort.

I've laid out a perfectly legitimate point, and all you have is a baseless insult.

It must be Friday.




(I truly do hope you read this exchange too, SGG. This is a great example of why I do not lump you in with others here on this site.)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 14, 2018 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.



Wow. What a strikingly intelligent retort.

I've laid out a perfectly legitimate point, and all you have is a baseless insult.

It must be Friday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Nope. Your "point" is lost.

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Friday, September 14, 2018 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.



Wow. What a strikingly intelligent retort.

I've laid out a perfectly legitimate point, and all you have is a baseless insult.

It must be Friday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Nope. Your "point" is lost.



That's your prerogative. Trust me man... The last thing in the world that I'm going to bother trying to do is change your mind. You're a laughably static character who mindlessly follows the herd.

You're a lost cause.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 14, 2018 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I had to look this up since you didn't cite it. Here were the tweets in question...

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!



He didn't say that 3,000 Puerto Rican's died because of Democrats. The very first line in the tweet said "3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico."

The average death rate in Puerto Rico is 8.6 per 1,000 as of 2017 (0.0086%): https://www.indexmundi.com/puerto_rico/death_rate.html

The population of Puerto Rico is 3,658,163: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/puerto-rico-population/

This would mean that in any given year, roughly 31,460 people will die in Puerto Rico. It's been only 11 months, so let's call it 28,838 people.

What Trump said is that when he left the island there were no more than a dozen and a half deaths.

He didn't blame any hurricane related deaths on Democrats. He said that the MSM has taken a smaller pool of the number of people who die on average every year (particularly old people) and mis-attributed it to the hurricane.



Don't die on this hill, T. This is the type of bad reporting that leaves you with no argument, and just makes people who read past the headlines even more skeptical of the blatantly left leaning MSM.

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6ixStringJack, look this one up: "Hurricane Maria was a manmade disaster. Hundreds of families told us what really happened"
https://qz.com/1390559/

The key word in the title is "manmade". You can read the details of what that meant, from traffic signals with no electricity for months causing fatal crashes to fatalities caused by medical equipment without electricity for months to deaths caused by dirty water because sewage treatment plants were not running for months and bottled water supplies run out, etc. at https://hurricanemariasdead.com/database.html

The Man in "manmade disaster" is Trump. But he has said it was not him. He's wrong about that.


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Friday, September 14, 2018 10:38 PM

Uh huh

LOL

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THG
Saturday, September 15, 2018 4:29 AM

How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
oll-study-george-washington-university-death-toll-donald-trump/1288908002
/

T

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Saturday, September 15, 2018 6:42 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
oll-study-george-washington-university-death-toll-donald-trump/1288908002
/

T



Can somebody find me a link where the study is made available.

I can think of a few reasons why some high ranking politicians in Puerto Rico would want to see those results, but I'll keep them to myself for now until the actual study can be reviewed.

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Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:11 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
oll-study-george-washington-university-death-toll-donald-trump/1288908002
/

T



Can somebody find me a link where the study is made available.

I can think of a few reasons why some high ranking politicians in Puerto Rico would want to see those results, but I'll keep them to myself for now until the actual study can be reviewed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Do you have an internet connection? If you do, you can try google.com or bing.com. They can be very helpful if you're looking for information on the web.

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Saturday, September 15, 2018 11:12 AM

I see that once again our resident authoritarian liberaloids are harping on some theoretical thing being "destroyed" and yet ignoring the literal mountains of bodies that we've left in our wake.

AFA Puerto Rico is concerned... the administration of PR fucked the people a long time ago. The infrastructure was shit, the place was falling apart, AND it was bankrupt! It's not the job of FEMA to swoop in and fix decades of neglect and corruption, bringing everything to a spit-polished shine. If anyone is to blame I's start looking at the governor's level and work my way downward.

I've been harping about robustness (or - to use the latest buzzword - "resilience") and hardening our infrastructure against disaster for years. Also, the evils of fractional reserve banking and the idiocy of borrowing money from banks when they can just create it out of thin air, but then you have to pay it back with REAL money. Not running on a trade deficit. Well, this is what happens when your administration just runs off a cliff. But don't worry ... the USA has been doing exactly the same wrong things for decades. It'll be our turn in the barrel sooner or later.


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Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see that once again our resident authoritarian liberaloids are harping on some theoretical thing being "destroyed" and yet ignoring the literal mountains of bodies that we've left in our wake.

AFA Puerto Rico is concerned... the administration of PR fucked the people a long time ago. The infrastructure was shit, the place was falling apart, AND it was bankrupt! It's not the job of FEMA to swoop in and fix decades of neglect and corruption, bringing everything to a spit-polished shine. If anyone is to blame I's start looking at the governor's level and work my way downward.

I've been harping about robustness (or - to use the latest buzzword - "resilience") and hardening our infrastructure against disaster for years. Also, the evils of fractional reserve banking and the idiocy of borrowing money from banks when they can just create it out of thin air, but then you have to pay it back with REAL money. Not running on a trade deficit. Well, this is what happens when your administration just runs off a cliff. But don't worry ... the USA has been doing exactly the same wrong things for decades. It'll be our turn in the barrel sooner or later.




Trying to whitewash today's problems with "wull, we f*cked in the past" is why nothing gets fixed. It literally is backwards.

"those who failed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it..."

Trump and admin and GOP "leaders obviously don't give a sh*t about PR. Will he throw out paper towels when Florence leaves? Or will he do something to make sure electric is restored quickly? Yeah, we know the answer. The least he could do is take the money Mueller got from his convicted campaign manager - $46 million - and put it toward fixing the island.

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