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Lynch. Comey. Dirty Debbie. Hillary. The FBI-DNC-DOJ link. Ohr. Stzok. Page. Rosenstein. It's one giant deep state clusterfvck

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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:26 PM

More tinfoil from Russian troll sites. What does Q say?

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Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:39 AM

HEY TROLL REAVERFAN: EVERYBODY LIES! And if you think the M$M doesn't, then you've got some serious growing-up to do!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:42 AM

Quote:

"Leaking Like Mad"

A December 15, 2016 email appears to discuss a "political" leaking operation, in which others were "leaking like mad" amid the Trump-Russia probe.

“Oh, remind me to tell you tomorrow about the times doing a story about the rnc hacks,” Page texted Strzok.

“And more than they already did? I told you Quinn told me they pulling out all the stops on some story…” Strzok replied.

A source told Fox News “Quinn” could be referring to Richard Quinn, who served as the chief of the Media and Investigative Publicity Section in the Office of Public Affairs. Quinn could not be reached for comment.

Strzok again replied: “Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried, and political, they’re kicking into overdrive.”


In one passage, Strzok apparently misreads a reference to "rnc" as "mc," and then, realizing his error, blames "old man eyes."

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term “sisters.” -Fox News



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-12/leaking-mad-fbi-doj-msm-coll
usion-goes-far-deeper-previously-known



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Saturday, September 15, 2018 7:20 AM

Quote:

"Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out," Strzok texted to Page on Jan. 10, 2017, following CNN's report. "Hey let me know when you can talk. We’re discussing whether, now that this is out, we use it as a pretext to go interview some people," Strzok continued.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, October 9, 2018 10:38 PM

It looks like BAKER (FBI's former top lawyer) has flipped, and what he's saying is ...

Quote:

Ex-FBI Top Lawyer: Rosenstein Wasn't Joking About Recording, Removing Trump

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wasn't joking when he told former FBI officials Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page that he wanted to secretly record President Trump and use the tapes to remove him from office, according to the FBI's former top lawyer.

Fox News reports that James Baker, who served as the FBI's General Counsel before he was reassigned and then quit, told congressional investigators during a closed-door deposition last week that Page and McCabe relayed the same account of Rosenstein's remarks - and that he was absolutely serious at the time.

"As far as Baker was concerned, this was a real plan being discussed," reports The Hill's John Solomon, citing a confidential source.

"It was no laughing matter for the FBI," the source added.

Solomon points out that Rosenstein's comments happened right around the time former FBI Director James Comey was fired.

McCabe, Baker's boss, was fired after the DOJ discovered that he had leaked self-serving information to the press and then lied to investigators about it. Baker, meanwhile, was central to the surveillance apparatus within the FBI during the counterintelligence operation on then-candidate Trump.

As the former FBI general counsel, Baker was a senior figure with a pivotal position who had the ear of the FBI director.

Baker also is at the heart of surveillance abuse accusations, many from congressional Republicans. His deposition lays the groundwork for a planned closed-door House GOP interview with Rosenstein later this week.

Baker, formerly the FBI's top lawyer, helped secure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as well as three subsequent renewals. -Fox News


Meanwhile, the Times also notes that McCabe's own memos attest to Rosenstein's intentions to record Trump - which led to Rosenstein reportedly tendering a verbal resignation to White House chief of staff John Kelly.

Rosenstein is set to be interviewed in private on Thursday by the House Judiciary Committee.

On September 21 the New York Times reported on Rosenstein's alleged comments. The MSM - citing anonymous officials - immediately spread the narrative that he was simply joking. Rosenstein's office has tried to downplay the comments as a joke, insisting that he never gave an order to record Trump, and that he doesn't believe Trump should be removed from office.

Let's see if Rosenstein tells Congressional investigators the same thing on Thursday, under oath, under penalty of felony.

Baker’s account to lawmakers this month clearly complicates an already complicated picture for Rosenstein before Congress, assuming he shows up for Thursday’s interview.

But even more so, Baker’s story lays bare an extraordinary conversation in which at least some senior FBI officials thought it within their purview to try to capture the president on tape and then go to the president’s own Cabinet secretaries, hoping to persuade the senior leaders of the administration to remove the president from power.

Even more extraordinary is the timing of such discussions: They occurred, according to Baker’s account, in the window around FBI Director James Comey’s firing. Could it be that the leaders of a wounded, stunned FBI were seeking retribution for their boss’ firing with a secret recording operation? -The Hill


Solomon points out that "This wasn’t a president who was incapacitated at the time. He was fully exercising his powers — but in a way the FBI leadership did not like."

Keep in mind, this is the same FBI that, a few months earlier during the 2016 election, had its top counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok talking to Page — his lover and the top lawyer to McCabe — about using their official

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Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:24 PM

Got a legit source?

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Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:31 AM

As a news aggregator, ZH often links many sources for their articles. They linked the following for that article

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/410447-former-fbi-la
wyer-plot-to-record-remove-trump-not-a-joke


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wir
e-25th-amendment.html


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rosenstein-joked-about-
secretly-recording-trump-say-sources-n911981


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/21/oh-so-deputy-ag-ros
enstein-was-joking-about-wearing-a-wire-to-ensnare-trump-n2521362


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-agent-peter
-strzok-fired-over-anti-trump-texts/2018/08/13/be98f84c-8e8b-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bc18f3b13b60


https://archive.org/stream/TheSteelDossierTrumpIntelligenceAllegations
/The%20Steele%20Dossier%20-%20Trump-Intelligence-Allegations_djvu.txt


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us/politics/clinton-dnc-russia-doss
ier.html


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/4/ex-spy-christopher-ste
ele-trusted-fbi-despite-misc
/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/405242-the-mueller-probes-trou
bling-reliance-on-journalists-as-sources


I may have missed one or two, but feel free to pursue these other sources to your heart's content.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:49 AM

This time, REAVER, you can look up the links yourself. (FYI the first link is to CNN)

Quote:

Rosenstein Bails On Congressional Testimony

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will not appear in front of the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday to discuss reports that he wanted to secretly record President Trump and then use the recordings to remove him from office under the 25th Amendment, reports the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross, citing an anonymous House Judiciary Committee aide, and later confirmed by CNN.

Rosenstein said he was joking when he made the comments to former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and FBI attorney Lisa Page, however that claim has been refuted by the FBI's former top attorney.

"We have many questions for Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein and expect answers to those questions. There is not at this time a confirmed date for a potential meeting," the aide told the Caller.

"Don’t think he is coming," added one Republican lawmaker on Wednesday.

The same lawmaker told TheDCNF on Tuesday that Rosenstein was likely to testify before the House Judiciary and House Oversight & Government Reform Committees to answer questions about claims he discussed wearing a wire during his interactions with Trump.

Members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus had called on Rosenstein to testify about his remarks, which were first reported by The New York Times on Sept. 21.

The conservative lawmakers, including North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows and Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, have been staunch critics of Rosenstein because of his failure to respond to requests for documents related to the FBI’s handling of the Trump-Russia probe. -Daily Caller


On Tuesday we reported that the FBI's former top attorney, James Baker, told Congressional investigators last week that Rosenstein wasn't joking about taping Trump.

"As far as Baker was concerned, this was a real plan being discussed," reports The Hill's John Solomon, citing a confidential source.

"It was no laughing matter for the FBI," the source added.

Solomon points out that Rosenstein's comments happened right around the time former FBI Director James Comey was fired.

McCabe, Baker's boss, was fired after the DOJ discovered that he had leaked self-serving information to the press and then lied to investigators about it. Baker, meanwhile, was central to the surveillance apparatus within the FBI during the counterintelligence operation on then-candidate Trump.

As the former FBI general counsel, Baker was a senior figure with a pivotal position who had the ear of the FBI director.

Baker also is at the heart of surveillance abuse accusations, many from congressional Republicans. His deposition lays the groundwork for a planned closed-door House GOP interview with Rosenstein later this week.

Baker, formerly the FBI's top lawyer, helped secure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, as well as three subsequent renewals. -Fox News


Meanwhile, the New York Times noted that McCabe's own memos attest to Rosenstein's intentions to record Trump - which led to Rosenstein reportedly tendering a verbal resignation to White House chief of staff John Kelly.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-10/rosenstein-expected-bail-con
gressional-testimony-report




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:15 PM

Here is one opinion, by Tom Luongo

Quote:

In case you haven’t been paying attention, the Republicans are going to remain in control of both the House and the Senate in a couple of weeks. Since their flawless victory over the Democrats in the fight to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, the Republican base is more energized now than at any point since November 2016.

They say pictures are worth a thousand words… so, here’s one.

The Redcoats are Coming, The Redcoats are Coming!

Source: RealClearPolitics.com

And if you don’t think the person that is most worried about this picture is Hillary Clinton, then you haven’t been paying attention.

But, to get to Hillary, I’ll have to connect a few dots.

It is pretty obvious that Trump has begun winning over important parts of the GOP leadership, most notably Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky), who shared a stage with Trump in Kentucky recently.

While on the other hand, those most in opposition to Trump like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (D-Wisconsin) and Jeff Flake (D-McCainville) are retiring because they know they can’t win.

Trump and McConnell’s win, as I said previously, “gave spine to the spineless.” Like Trump or hate him, for the most part, the guy is a change agent.

So, McConnell rammed another 15 judges down the Democrats’ throats to allow them time to do a little chair rearrangement on the deck of their party’s Titanic before November 6th.

The early signs have come from the foreign policy front, namely Trump’s cabinet.

The great Justin Raimondo at Antiwar.com feels, “the trend is moving in our direction – toward a new foreign policy for America, one that functions to protect the people of this country rather than police the world. Go not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.”

The reason I can give Raimondo’s optimism an audience stems from Gareth Porter’s recent article about Trump’s cabinet sabotaging him on foreign policy.

The excerpts from Bob Woodward’s book “Fear: Trump in the White House” that Porter pulls together along with other sources paints a very probably scenario of what is going on. Trump is fighting daily with his cabinet.

I’m sure Woodward’s goal was to show Trump as weak and not in control, because that’s the narrative du jour in the hopes of creating a 25th Amendment challenge to him post mid-terms.

But, since the Democrats are going to lose the mid-terms, this book now can serve as research into the shift in policy coming from Trump starting in mid-November.

And Trump is doing just a little bit more than signaling what’s coming.

I’ve settled on the belief that he fired Nikki Haley. She was, next to Certified Crazy Person John Bolton, the biggest neoconservative and AIPAC boot-licker in the administration. I expect Bolton will be gone soon if sanctions on Iran don’t work.

I bet she got wind of his intentions and then quit before the elections out of spite because … AIPAC.

As I said the day it happened, the only way our presence at the U.N. could be worse is if Dick Cheney is made U.N. Ambassador. So, buh-bye Nimrata.

That was interesting. But, now Trump’s undercutting Secretary of Defense James Mattis publicly. He hasn’t done this before.

When the MSM was trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Mattis I didn’t believe it.

When Trump is doing it, I’m listening. That’s a real change. Calling Mattis “a sort of a Democrat” is pure signaling to his base that Mattis has been a problem in the Middle East.

Has Trump has finally made the point clear to his generals that staying in Syria and Afghanistan forever is not in the U.S.’s best interests? Firing Mattis or allowing him to resign gracefully after the mid-terms would be a big move in that direction, if Woodword’s reporting is to be believed.

Woodward paints Mattis as the biggest obstacle to that end, arguing for the standard neoconservative line of defending America by invading the world.

Trump wants us out of Syria and Afghanistan. His cabinet doesn’t. So, we’re seeing him beginn

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Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:53 PM

Clusterfuck, oh my!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:




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