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This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 4:07 AM

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SHINNY
Where do you REALLY stand regarding people who NON-VIOLENTLY espouse ideas you disagree with?


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, you think liberals are justified in initiating violence simply to silence people they don't agree with?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Kiki, your ideology is showing. At no point in my post do I even mention
the word "initiate."


You're right, you never use the word 'initiate'. What you DO espouse is violence, in regard to nothing at all.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You think that liberals should be labeled by your standards, go right ahead, do your
worst. Meanwhile, as far as I'm concerned, liberals will be punching people
in the face
.

If that's not what you meant, then perhaps you could explain in what circumstances you think violence is appropriate under current circumstances. For example, here you claim that just having people show up under a name you disagree with is enough of a 'reason'.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Like I always tell my nephew, never start a fight, but if someone bullies you;
you have the right to defend yourself. Antifa shows up whenever fascists
come a-calling
.

But then you backtrack in your reply with caveats not found in your original post:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
And I don't care about someone disagreeing with me; I often respond by chuckling to myself, but then stating my argument. I chose my words
carefully. Well, with one exception...here. Sometimes I just burst out
with something crazy (mainly in response to something crazy hurled at me).
But no, everyone is entitled, at least it used to be a norm here in this
country, to speak freely. Again, it used to be a norm, that if you disagreed
with someone you argued your side.

But then you reiterate that NON-VIOLENTLY MARCHING and CHANTING WORDS are enough of an excuse for violence:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I think that those who MARCH CHANTING 'Blood and Soil' must do so expecting a violent response.



Where do you REALLY stand regarding people who NON-VIOLENTLY espouse ideas you disagree with? Who simply 'come a-calling' and 'march' and 'chant'.


And for the record, I didn't attack RF, call him names, or support any right-wing cause, slogan, or action. I asked a question, for clarification. THIS IS THE SUM TOTAL OF WHAT I POSTED THAT HE THINKS IS WORTH ATTACKING ME FOR: "So, you think liberals are justified in initiating violence simply to silence people they don't agree with?"

And it's a question I'm forced to repeated, since he espouses answers on both sides.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 4:18 PM

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MEANWHILE. so this doesn't get lost in SECOND's garbage


SHINNY
Where do you REALLY stand regarding people who NON-VIOLENTLY espouse ideas you disagree with?



I'm going to say this once, so pay attention: I really don't give a fuck. Normally, whenever I see a group of people chanting and carrying on, I keep
walking. You want to protest and chant, be my guest.

When I was a kid of 12, I saw two gangs facing off and it was really tense.
One guy was about 6' 2" and burly and he was in the face of a smaller guy, about 5' 8" or 5' 9". He was yelling in the smaller man's face. He stood
there cool as a cucumber and never flinched. I thought to myself, that took guts. The bigger guy motioning and trying to provoke the smaller dude. But he stood there calm and cool. It seemed the more he kept cool, the angrier the
big guy got.

That always stayed with me.

I protested the war in Viet Nam, and I stood there while cops sneered and tried to provoke the protesters, the peaceful protesters. I was scared that
the cops would start swinging their riot batons. But I kept my cool.

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You're right, you never use the word 'initiate'. What you DO espouse is violence, in regard to nothing at all.


During the Charlottesville fiasco, I watched an interview with a black clergyman who proceeded to tell the reporter how an Antifa man saved him from
being clubbed by a man wearing a German/Nazi style helmet. Violence
against a defenseless non-violent person. So yeah, nothing.



Sometimes violence is called for. Me, I strongly believe in self defense,
but I lose my cool when I get violent, so I avoid it at all costs. Having
said that, sometimes you gotta beat the shit out of someone who threatens
violence because you never know.

You want to march and act the fool chanting "you will not replace us"
holding "tiki" torches (for Pete's sake, tiki torches), go right ahead.
But let's be real...these guys are coming loaded to bear. I'm afraid
that sometimes violence is all they know. And you have to be prepared,
otherwise they'll stomp you into the ground.


sgg

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
MEANWHILE 1kiki is crazier than Trump, and less successful covering it up. THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."



A government photographer edited official pictures of Donald Trump’s inauguration to make the crowd appear bigger following a personal intervention from the president, according to newly released documents.

The photographer cropped out empty space “where the crowd ended” for a new set of pictures requested by Trump on the first morning of his presidency, after he was angered by images showing his audience was smaller than Barack Obama’s in 2009.

The detail was revealed in investigative reports released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act by the inspector general of the US interior department. They shed new light on the first self-inflicted crisis of Trump’s presidency, when his White House falsely claimed he had attracted the biggest ever inauguration audience.

The records detail a scramble within the National Park Service (NPS) on 21 January 2017 after an early-morning phone call between Trump and the acting NPS director, Michael Reynolds. They also state that Sean Spicer, then White House press secretary, called NPS officials repeatedly that day in pursuit of the more flattering photographs.

More at www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/06/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd-
size-photos-edited


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:38 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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PLEASE file a libel lawsuit. That would be so fun to watch it backfire. Since Trump will not sue, the whole world can take it as evidence that Trump was not libeled in Bob Woodward's book on his presidency.
EVERY. WORD. WAS. TRUE.

OMFG! The reason why Presidents (and other politicians) don't sue for defamation is because they are PUBLIC FIGURES. My god, even I knew that! And if you think I'm more ignorant than you ... what does that make you???

Signym, you lied. The law does not work the way you simplified it:
www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/defamation-law-made-simple-29718.html

Trump won't sue because Woodward recorded the conversations. Were Trump to sue, it would all come out in court that the words were actually said and that Trump is provably crazy.
(Trump's attorney to jury: "My client talks faster than his brain works.")

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 7, 2018 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

MEANWHILE. so this doesn't get lost in SECOND's garbage

“Politicians lie, but this is different,” says a historian who studies presidential history and estimates the Trump administration easily ranks among the most corrupt in American history.

Despite Trump’s promises to “drain the swamp,” the first year of his administration has been plagued by resignations, investigations, and scandals. Robert Dallek, presidential historian, estimates that examples of corruption, like that of the Warren G. Harding administration, don’t hold a candle to how Trump and his people have conducted themselves in the White House.

Dallek sees the Trump administration as “a low point in our history.” What makes Trump exceptionally dangerous, Dallek argues, is how effortlessly he lies and what kind of tone he has set in this White House.

“The fish rots from the head,” he said, “and the stench of this administration starts at the very top.”

"I would be more alarmed if we didn’t have an outspoken opposition party and a powerful media opposition that does not bend a knee to the administration, that continues to ask hard questions and to report whatever the truth seems to be. This is a strength in the country, and I have optimism that the judicial system will also support the rule of law and help to sustain our traditions.

Now, am I sure of all that? Of course not. Anything can happen. But I'm hopeful that we will turn back in a more constructive direction in the next round in our presidential politics."

More at www.vox.com/2017/11/16/16643614/trump-administration-corruption-russia
-investigation


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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A History Of Donald Trump’s Tasteless Comments About 9/11

The 2001 terrorist attacks were the subject of one of Trump’s most egregious lies during his presidential campaign. In November 2015, he claimed, without evidence, that “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey had celebrated the news of the attacks.

“I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down,” Trump said at a campaign rally. “Thousands of people were cheering.”

The following day, Trump reiterated his lie, claiming that the supposed celebration “was well covered at the time.”

“There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down,” Trump said on ABC’s “This Week.”

The lie has been roundly debunked.

More at www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-september-11-anniversary_us_
5b97abe3e4b0511db3e61093


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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A History Of Donald Trump’s Tasteless Comments About 9/11

On the actual day of the attacks, Trump, a New York real estate mogul, tastelessly bragged about his downtown Manhattan building, 40 Wall Street.

Calling in to a New York TV news broadcast, as the station aired footage of the World Trade Center towers collapsing, Trump claimed that his property would now become the tallest building in the area.

“40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest — and then, when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second-tallest,” he said. “And now it’s the tallest.”

That claim also turned out to be false.

More at www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-september-11-anniversary_us_
5b97abe3e4b0511db3e61093


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:31 AM

Let's take into account that Antifa has never killed anyone, ever.

Then, let's look at the hundreds of violent attacks, murders, mass shootings and bomb plots Trump supporters are guilty of.

You really are a stupid, lying bitch, Siggy.

And this isn't even updated.

Man yells, "Make America Great Again!" Before shooting 6 people dead.

Man wearing, "Make America Great Again" hat murders 2 strangers for no reason.

A Trump supporter murders 2 police officers because they told him he couldn't wave a Confederate flag at a high school football game.

Two men beat a homeless man with a metal bar and urinate on him screaming, “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” When asked for a comment about the incident Trump defends them saying, "My supporters are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again."

Trump supporter attacks a Hispanic man and a Muslim student at a gas station while yelling, "Trump! Trump! Trump!"

Trump supporter stabs a black man unprovoked because he was holding hands with a white woman, tells police they need to release him so he can attend a Trump rally that night.

Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport.

A Trump supporter punches a 70 year old protester in the face.

Trump supporter arrested for brutally beating protester.

3 Trump supporters arrested planning terrorist attack to kill Muslims.

Trump supporter confuses an Indian man for a Muslim at restaurant and says, "Things are different now, I don't want you sand n*ggers sitting next to me." Before attacking the man.

"We got a new President you fucking f*ggots." Men yell as they attack gay man.

Trump supporters track down and brutally beat an artist because she made a painting of Trump with a small penis.

Trump supporter who sucker punched protester: “Next time, we might have to kill them.”

Trump is asked to comment on his supporters brutally beating a black man, he responds with, “He was obnoxious! Maybe he should have been roughed up,”

"You fucking gorillas and baby monkeys, We voted for Trump. Trump's building a wall, beaners, and you'll be going back to where you belong." Man yells at black elementary school children unprovoked before he swerves his car at them attempting to hit them.

Trump supporter assaults woman at rally and then says he wouldn't of done it if Trump didn't inspire him to attack her.

Trump supporter recognizes famous anti-Trump playwright, walks up to him in a restaurant and says, “Sieg Heil! Fuck you, you Jew cunts, we’re gonna kill all of you." before attacking him.

Trump supporters beat black man so badly he’s hospitalized for concussion and call him the n-word.

Trump supporter pepper sprays a 15-year-old girl point-blank in the face after another Trump supporter groped her breasts, shouting “n*gger lover” as she attempted to run away.

Trump supporter walks up to a black man in the middle of a downtown area and says, "Donald Trump will deport you." Before punching the black man.

“Trump is going to win and if you don’t like it I’m going to beat your ass,” Trump supporter yells at random black woman outside of convenient store.

Man attacks and kicks Muslim airport employee shouting, "Trump is here now, he will get rid of all of you."

In 8 months Trump supporters attacked protesters at 20 different rallies.

Trump supporter tracks down a local Latino Democratic political candidate and tries to run him and his elderly mother over with a car. (The Latino candidate is also a former marine.)

"This is for Donald Trump!" man yells as he runs up a Latino person and punches them in the head.

Trump supporter goes to Hillary Clinton rally to disrupt the event, ends up punching someone when asked to leave.

Trump supporter punches, chokes and slaps protesters on video during rally.

An angry mob of Trump supporters brutally beat and grab a ma

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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:33 AM

There is NO doubt, nor can there be ANY debate, that Trump supporters are overwhelmingly violent, murderous, and traitorous, when compared to the lifesaving heroes of Antifa, and their fellow peace-loving, informed thinkers on the left.

My grandfather was awarded medals for killing fascists. If he were here to see these little spoiled white boys marching around with Nazi flags and shouting racial slurs, and murdering and beating people, he'd have killed a bunch more.

And he would deserve another medal. He loved America.

Nazis and Russian trolls do not.

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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:59 AM

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