A thread for Democrats Only
POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 15:36
VIEWED: 755368
PAGE 178 of 725
Hey KIKI, I have tried my darndest to have a conversation with SECOND, but, sadly, the result is that SECOND really only wants to be a "lying sack of shit" and splatter the board with lots and lots and lots of dung. There is absolutely nothing genuine or honest about SECOND.
The more attention SECOND gets, even if only "I'm not paying attention to you", the more SECOND attempts to capture eyeballs for more and more propaganda. Unless SECOND appears ready to have a discussion, I refuse to respond to SECOND because that simply bumps the thread ... and it only encourages him.
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Boo!
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:And yet you and 1kiki keep coming back, again and again, to "A thread for Democrats Only" and demonstrating the meaning of irony. Trump did the same, today:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I refuse to respond to SECOND because that simply bumps the thread ... and it only encourages him.
Melania Trump warns that social media can be “Destructive and Harmful” as Donald calls people “Thugs” and his attorney general “A Total Joke”
While Melania Trump may not have known that the president would tweet out bullying statements during her anti-bullying event, it would have been a relatively safe assumption. When the first lady was presented with this predictably contradiction, a spokeswoman released a statement acknowledging the argument. “She is aware of the criticism but it will not deter her from doing what is right,” the statement says.
It was not the first time Melania Trump nodded to the irony of the situation. In March, at a similar panel, she acknowledged that she had been criticized for tackling cyberbullying as a cause. “I am well aware that people are skeptical of me discussing this topic,” she said.
People who know the Trumps say that even her husband had been aware that his Twitter bullying would expose her to criticism if she focused on bullying, and he reportedly suggested she choose a different cause to push.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/melania-trump-be-best-camp
aign-antibullying-event-during-president-tweetstorm.html
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Hey Signy
I like making SECOND hop to it by posting 'Boo!'. It's such a small investment of my time to get him to waste a lot more of his. Besides, nobody with a brain reads anything SECOND posts.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Do I need to convince Signym that Trump murdering children is wrong? :
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now that your humanitarian "concern" has been shown to be about as deep as spit on a sidewalk, you try to shift the focus. AGAIN.
I'm not about to get involved in a disingenuous propaganda campaign (ON YOUR PART) where YOU just keep flinging crap at the board over and over, arguing with the voices in your head and shifting the topic as soon as it doesn't work out for you (which is pretty much right away), not responding to what I post. THAT IS NOT A DISCUSSION. THAT IS SECOND'S PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN.
I'm trying to have a discussion with you. I want to know what YOU think.
The Pentagon won’t check if US bombs killed kids in Yemen. Trump does not want to know.
Well, it turns out CNN launched an investigation of its own and reported that the bomb used in the attack did, in fact, come from the United States.
To summarize: The Saudi-led coalition is using American-made weapons dropped from planes refueled by Americans to kill civilians — including children — and the Pentagon won’t look into it. The US is perhaps “complicit in a probable war crime.” And on Monday, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT), a longtime critic of US support for the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen, said he’ll propose an amendment to cut off funding for America’s support for the war.
It’s unclear, as of now, if it will receive the necessary votes from Republicans in Congress, as similar efforts have failed before.
More at www.vox.com/2018/8/20/17760322/yemen-children-bomb-bus-pentagon
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Boo!
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Honest Liars: Dishonest Leaders May Be Perceived as Authentic
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Boo!
It's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Donald Trump’s election suggests supporters view an outsider’s lies as symbolic protests against the establishment. New research suggests that sometimes lying can actually make a politician seem more authentic: followers see bald-faced lies by an interloper as symbolic protests against a crooked establishment.
Oliver Hahl, a management researcher at Carnegie Mellon University and the paper's lead author, says his studies have helped him understand Trump's supporters: “It gives me the sense that the world is still rational to some degree.”
More at www.scientificamerican.com/article/honest-liars-dishonest-leaders-may-
be-perceived-as-authentic/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:US is axing coal pollution rule that is key to climate change effort
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I like making SECOND hop to it by posting 'Boo!'. It's such a small investment of my time to get him to waste a lot more of his. Besides, nobody with a brain reads anything SECOND posts.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt.
The Trump administration inked a plan to repeal and replace the centerpiece of former president Barack Obama’s climate change initiatives on Monday night, in a major blow to the US’s ability to meaningfully curtail its impact on advancing climate change.
Andrew Wheeler, the acting administrator of the US Environmental Protection Agency, signed the “Affordable Clean Energy” rule, which would ease pollution controls on coal-fired power plants. The Obama-era Clean Power Plan set a course to cut carbon emissions 32% below 2005 levels by 2030. The Trump administration’s replacement plan does not include any benchmark for carbon emissions.
https://qz.com/1364367/
Why would Republicans do that?
Fifteen years have passed since G.O.P. Senator James Inhofe suggested that global warming is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.” To take it seriously you have to believe in a vast international conspiracy involving thousands of scientists, not one of whom dares speak out.
Yet this paranoid fantasy has in effect become the official position of the G.O.P.
Climate change deniers have pretty much given up on arguing about the evidence, although the old line “it’s a cold day, so global warming is a myth” still pops up now and then. Instead, it’s all about the supposed conspiracy.
What’s the evidence for this conspiracy? A lot of the argument rests on things like out-of-context quotes from stolen emails (sound familiar?), such as those sent among researchers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit. Like the texts between two F.B.I. officials that supposedly prove the existence of a plot against Trump, “Climategate” actually showed nothing more than that the people involved were human. But to a determined conspiracy theorist, everything is evidence of nefarious activity.
And there’s more. Some people seem startled at how quickly Trump has moved to use the power of office to punish and intimidate anyone who doesn’t go along with Dear Leader. But Republicans have long been doing that on climate.
Most famously, Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia, spent several years trying to prove fraud on the part of Michael Mann, one of our leading climate researchers. Cuccinelli’s witch hunt (yes, this was the real thing) was thinly disguised as involving concern over misuse of state funds, but it was obviously an attempt to use political power to censor and suppress inconvenient science.
And where were the Republicans standing up against conspiracy theories and for scientific integrity? Inaudible and invisible.
In short, if you followed the evolution of the G.O.P.’s position on climate change (not that Republicans believe in evolution, either), you shouldn’t be surprised at the party’s intellectual and moral collapse under Trump. For Republicans, ignorance has been strength for a long time.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/opinion/trump-republican-truth-climate-chan
ge.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Conserving oil is no longer an economic imperative for the U.S., the Trump administration declares in a major new policy statement that threatens to undermine decades of government campaigns for gas-thrifty cars and other conservation programs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey KIKI, I have tried my darndest to have a conversation with SECOND, but, sadly, the result is that SECOND really only wants to be a "lying sack of shit" and splatter the board with lots and lots and lots of dung. There is absolutely nothing genuine or honest about SECOND.
The proposal eventually would increase U.S. oil consumption by 500,000 barrels a day, the administration says. Trump officials falsely say the freeze would improve highway safety, but documents released this month showed senior Environmental Protection Agency staffers calculate the administration’s move would actually increase highway deaths.
The memo made no mention of climate change. Transportation is the single largest source of climate-changing emissions.
The only clear winner is the oil industry. It’s not hard to see whose side President Trump is on.
www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/us-says-conserving-oil-is-no-longer-an-eco
nomic-imperative
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Trump gave me a free ride worth $millions. I didn't vote for him or contribute to the GOP, but I did get a tax cut.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Boo!
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt.
When I try to understand political behavior, I, like many others, often find myself thinking about Mancur Olson’s classic The Logic of Collective Action. Olson’s simple yet profound insight was that political action on behalf of a group is, from the point of view of members of that group, a public good.
What do we mean by that? A public good is something that, if provided, benefits many people – but whoever provides it has no way to limit the benefits to himself or herself, and hence no way to cash in on the good’s provision. The classic example is a lighthouse that steers everyone away from shoals, whether or not they’ve paid the fee; public health measures that limit disease are in the same category. As a result, the fact that a public good is worth providing from society’s point of view is no guarantee that it will actually be provided; it has to be worth some individual’s while.
As Olson pointed out, the same goes for political action. Just because a political candidate’s victory would be good for, say, farmers doesn’t mean that farmers will give him or her money; each individual farmer will have an incentive to free ride on everyone else’s contributions. So political action is normally undertaken by individuals or small, organized groups that stand to benefit directly. Either that, or it’s a byproduct of other activities that are advantageous for their own reasons and can also be harnessed for political action, like memberships in trade associations or unions.
But don’t rich people give money to support the interests of their class? Actually, a lot of the money we see in politics ends up being money spent in the givers’ own, personal interests. For example, you can think of the Koch brothers’ political spending as an investment in themselves: they have benefited immensely from the recent tax cut, with a payoff that far exceeds the amount they spent promoting it. See how a $40 million political outlay yields a $500 million tax cut. http://prospect.org/article/koch-brothers-best-investment
So a lot of political action is driven by people trying to shape policy in a way that benefits them personally. But there are schemes not dreamed of by the Koch brothers even more effective at directing politics.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/opinion/partisanship-parasites-and-polariza
tion.html
on Partisanship, Parasites, and Polarization
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME