Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wow. Case closed, Sherlock. I'm sure with your brilliant observation, Mueller will be wrapping up any day now.
He would if there was nothing there but he keeps finding Russians and rats under every rock. Boy you must feel stupid for posting no collusion all those times a kiki?
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Doing opposition research isn't collusion.
Now, if Trump conspired to - hack voting machines, or buy off election officials - for example, that would be collusion.
Say, Hillary's campaign actually paid real money for dirt obtained from Russians and funneled through Steele. Do you think she should be investigated for collusion?
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Doing opposition research isn't collusion.
If members of your campaign sit down with Russians then yes it is.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Now, if Trump conspired to - hack voting machines, or buy off election officials - for example, that would be collusion.
Agreed. I wonder what he knew about any of that and when he knew it? Hard for me to fathom that if Putin tells the world (Helsinki) that he wanted Trump to win and that he directed his people to help, that Trump wouldn't have had that in one of the many conversations he had with Putin. Why else would Putin help Trump win unless you think Putin would do it and expect nothing in return?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Say, Hillary's campaign actually paid real money for dirt obtained from Russians and funneled through Steele. Do you think she should be investigated for collusion?
No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they? So no, she doesn't need to be investigated.
The Steel dossier started with Republican funding btw, "The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, initially retained the firm that conducted opposition research on Donald J. Trump" - maybe they should all be investigated?
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"No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they?"
They paid for someone to sit down with Russians, and got a 'dossier' to show for it. Smells like conspiracy to me. Maybe you need to look up the legal definition.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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This is a no lie and spin zone comrade kiki. And lets remember, Trump is the one who currently holds office. Your continued argument that someone else did it too doesn't fly. Especially when that person has been investigated from a to z with nothing sticking.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they?"
They paid for someone to sit down with Russians, and got a 'dossier' to show for it. Smells like conspiracy to me. Maybe you need to look up the legal definition.
So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hil
lary-clinton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe
"Now, let’s see if this material backs up Nunes’s claim: “Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to get dirt on Trump to feed it to the FBI to open up an investigation into the other campaign.”
Based on the available evidence, this claim quickly falls apart.
The Clinton campaign, via a law firm, did seek “dirt” on Trump and Russia. Steele did rely on Russian sources, supposedly contacts mined from his years as a spy. Steele did actively seek to draw attention to what he had found, though virtually no reporters wrote about his allegations before the election because they could not confirm them. And the FBI did use Steele’s reports to help obtain a court order allowing surveillance of a Trump associate — but that was after Page had quit the campaign.
For some, that may seem like a lot of smoke. But it’s a huge leap to say Clinton colluded with Russians to do this. Instead, you have (a) the campaign hiring (b) a research firm that hired (c) a researcher who spoke (d) to Russian sources. Steele, for his part, has suggested he tried to alert reporters and the FBI because he was appalled by what he had discovered. The closest connection to Clinton is the fact that Steele gave to the FBI material written by Clinton associates, but it’s unclear what the FBI did with that memo.
Meanwhile, there is little dispute over the finding by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia developed a clear preference for Trump — and that Russian entities hacked into Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign accounts to obtain emails that were then leaked to undermine her campaign. It certainly would have been a sophisticated game of three-dimensional chess for Russia to simultaneously seek to undermine Clinton’s campaign while supplying her with information to spur an investigation of Russian activities on behalf of Trump.
Finally, the Nunes memo disclosed that the FBI opened a counterintelligence operation in July 2016 because of allegations concerning another Trump adviser, George Papadopoulos. But Papadopoulos was never mentioned in any of Steele’s reports. He came to the attention of the FBI because he had told an Australian diplomat that the Russians had obtained thousands of Clinton’s emails. He has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and is cooperating with the special counsel.
Jack Langer, spokesman for the House Intelligence Committee, did not respond to queries about Nunes’s statement on the Hewitt show. But earlier in the week, we asked him why Nunes had said Papadopoulos “never even had met with the president” when Trump himself on March 31, 2016, had circulated on social media a photo of the two men together during a meeting of Trump’s foreign-policy advisers.
“Yes, there’s a photo of more than a dozen people sitting around a conference table, including Papadopoulos and Trump,” Langer replied. “But that does not make clear whether the two men knew each other at all.”
Presumably the same could be said for Clinton and Steele — especially since there is no known photo of the two together, let alone a known meeting.
The Pinocchio Test
Was the dossier used to gin up media attention to Russia-Trump ties and bolster an existing FBI investigation? Perhaps. That’s certainly a question worth exploring.
But the media needed little prodding to investigate when candidate Trump appeared unexpectedly solicitous of Russian President Vladimir Putin as Russian-linked entities leaked emails stolen by Russian hackers
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Quote:1kiki will not accept the Washington Post's Factchecker explaining that this accusation is dead and buried. It won't be long before the same false accusation will be used again. Zombie arguments/accusations keep shambling forward, unstoppable. Give 1kiki a little time to reanimate this one.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hillary-cli
nton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hillary-cli
nton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe
1kiki will not accept the Washington Post's Factchecker explaining that this accusation is dead and buried. It won't be long before the same false accusation will be used again. Zombie arguments/accusations keep shambling forward, unstoppable. Give 1kiki a little time to reanimate this one.
Approval of Special Counsel Robert Mueller stands at 59 percent, up 11 points since July, and 40 percent expect the investigation will find Trump committed criminal or impeachable offenses, up 5 points.
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Tsk tsk, GEEBERS. Misrepresenting my posts - AGAIN. If you read what I posted, I said *if* Trump colluded, *then* so did Hillary. And btw, the WaPo article contains many unevidenced claims, a few of which are perilously close to similar claims about Iraq's WMDs.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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