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What’s going on with Mueller’s questioning of Stone’s associates
So for the past several months, Mueller’s team has brought several close associates of Stone before the grand jury, in an apparent attempt to suss out what exactly Stone knew and did related to stolen Democratic emails — but some have been more willing than others. The latest drama involves three in particular:
1) Andrew Miller: Miller is a political operative with deep and longtime ties to Stone. His stepmom, Dianne Thorne, was Stone’s assistant for about two decades. His wife has done publicity for Stone’s books. And he himself started off as Stone’s driver before taking on more political work for him. Miller calls him “Uncle Stone” and even drove him to get his famous Richard Nixon tattoo, as he described on a podcast last year.
Miller was initially subpoenaed by Mueller’s team in May, but refused to show up to two scheduled grand jury appearances. Eventually, he got the help of a conservative think tank to file a lawsuit to try to get him out of testifying — by trying to strike down Mueller’s appointment. But last week, a DC judge ruled against him in the suit and said that, yes, he did have to testify.
Miller’s new testimony was scheduled for Friday — and once again, he didn’t show up. As a result, a judge found him in contempt. But his legal team is appealing again, hoping to bring the case eventually to the Supreme Court.
Why Miller is fighting so hard to avoid testimony isn’t clear. The Washington Post reports that the subpoena to him asked for information on WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, Guccifer 2, and DC Leaks. A Super PAC run by Stone also made a payment to a firm run by Miller during the 2016 campaign.
2) Kristin Davis: Another recurring character in Stoneworld who’s caught Mueller’s interest is Kristin Davis, the former “Manhattan Madam” who gained national fame during the prostitution scandal that forced the resignation of New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer. Davis did some work for Stone, and ran for governor of New York in 2010 at Stone’s urging (her campaign manager was Andrew Miller).
After serving a prison sentence for distributing prescription drugs, Davis got out in 2016 and reentered Stone’s orbit, helping with his travel schedule and bookings. She also had a baby named Carter Stone Davis. (Stone has publicly claimed that FBI agents have been asking his associates whether he’s the baby’s father.) See the original article for all the operatic weirdness and drama.
More at www.vox.com/2018/8/11/17675288/mueller-roger-stone-trump-russia-invest
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A stunning report in The New Republic alleges that, whether Donald Trump knew it or not, for decades he made a large portion of his personal fortune from Russian mobsters & oligarchs.
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Quote:That was from last year, July 13th at
Originally posted by THG:
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A stunning report in The New Republic alleges that, whether Donald Trump knew it or not, for decades he made a large portion of his personal fortune from Russian mobsters & oligarchs.
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump
-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
I've been betting that Trump evaded income taxes on that laundering scheme. If Mueller should happen to bring it up in his final report, the GOP will waive that aside as nothing important, but voters might not. Trump pays the back taxes and penalties, but might lose reelection. Who knows? Depends on how big a fraud he committed. He might blame it all on his accountant. I'm pretty sure there won't be any jail for Trump, no more than there was for Nixon, who actually did cheat on his taxes and blamed his accountant, who was charged with the crime that Nixon should have been charged with.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,945108,00.html
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2007/03/remembering_ric.html
"Mr. Morgan in November, pleaded guilty to charges of fraud relating to Mr. Nixon's tax returns and is serving a four-month jail sentence for this crime." Should have been Nixon in jail, but Morgan took the fall for his boss. You can be damn sure that Morgan was amply and secretly rewarded for his service to Nixon by some anonymous GOP donor.
www.nytimes.com/1975/02/20/archives/two-men-indicted-over-nixon-taxes-
lawyer-and-appraiser-are-accused.html
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What good would 4 months of Nixon in jail have done for any American?
It's pretty ridiculous that he was able to have his accountant take the heat in the first place, yes, but at the end of the day 4 months in a white-collar resort for Nixon over that wouldn't have really affected his life at all.
It just goes to show what the 1%'ers can get away with that would absolutely ruin anybody in the 99% that got caught doing the same things.
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If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky
https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:It took years and years before Mary Livingston, a federal archivist, could get anybody important to look into Nixon stealing $450,000. The same will happen with Trump. We're only 2 years into it. So if the Nixon example is followed then we've got at least 4 more years of important people looking the other way on Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What good would 4 months of Nixon in jail have done for any American?
It's pretty ridiculous that he was able to have his accountant take the heat in the first place, yes, but at the end of the day 4 months in a white-collar resort for Nixon over that wouldn't have really affected his life at all.
It just goes to show what the 1%'ers can get away with that would absolutely ruin anybody in the 99% that got caught doing the same things.Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky
https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2007/03/remembering_ric.html
And then when it is all done, Nixon's accountant takes the fall for Nixon. Again, the important people who are suppose to enforce the law did what they could to protect Nixon. They couldn't stop a trial, but they could mislead a jury about who did what. And Nixon did not pay back all he owed because the legal reckoning was too slow. The statue of limitations kicked in.
www.nytimes.com/1975/02/20/archives/two-men-indicted-over-nixon-taxes-
lawyer-and-appraiser-are-accused.html
The same will happen with Trump, probably. After all the Sound and the Fury of Trump's Presidency, somebody other than Trump will pay the price. We already know the name of one important cheat who is protecting Trump from justice: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a California Republican.
www.cnn.com/2018/08/09/politics/devin-nunes-trump-congress-republican-
majority/index.html
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OK.
I'll now refer you to the more important part of my post that you didn't address. I believe you'll find it a lot less one-sided than what you're going on about.
Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky
https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You are mistaken about its importance. There are many Americans, none of them President, who also deserved hanging: "Killing Japanese didn't bother me very much at that time... I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal.... Every soldier thinks something of the moral aspects of what he is doing. But all war is immoral and if you let that bother you, you're not a good soldier."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OK.
I'll now refer you to the more important part of my post that you didn't address. I believe you'll find it a lot less one-sided than what you're going on about.Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky
https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
-- General Curtis LeMay on the morality of the firebombing campaign. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay
What is the important thing to remember? Pick an American at random. Place them in danger. It doesn't have to be much. About half of the fearful Americans will go completely berserk and start killing women and children at random. Only about half of Americans understood that it was wrong to burn to death women and children with A-bombs. Only about half of the soldiers I was with in Vietnam understood it was wrong to murder South Vietnamese civilians. What kept the worst half of American soldiers under control was the better half.
6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.
To put a happy face on America, about half the citizens need to be in jobs that don't require maturity, self-control, or even much effort. Placed in a trying situation, they will crackup.
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Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.
That math works out in reference to this forum. Actually, we're on the less than crazy side, it just seems about half because the crazy ones talk so much. Kudos Firefly fans.
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Quote:On fireflyfans.net, the Americans here who should never be in a position of authority can't actually do any harm. Trump can, but as luck would have it, he is stupider and lazier than Bush, so Trump has not found his own Afghanistan to invade by now. For awhile, North Korea looked like a good candidate. Maybe it will be Iran. Maybe Trump will go to a trade war with China. Who can know with that unsteady man? Plainly, even he doesn't know what he will do. He says, "We'll see" far too often to be a man that knows his own mind.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.
That math works out in reference to this forum. Actually, we're on the less than crazy side, it just seems about half because the crazy ones talk so much. Kudos Firefly fans.
Trump has been talking about nuking people, going back and forth about it being a good idea or not. He is not alright in his head.
"Donald Trump's nuclear fixation - from the 1980s to now"
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879868
"If Trump wants to use nuclear weapons, whether it’s ‘legal’ won’t matter"
www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/22/if-trump-want
s-to-use-nuclear-weapons-whether-its-legal-wont-matter/?utm_term=.b97f021b5a51
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What if the White House legal staff came up with their own arguments in favor of a rash attack? The past 50 years of American warfare has shown that presidents and their advisers have been able to come up with “just war” arguments for every military engagement, no matter how stretched in retrospect. Using a nuclear weapon on Pyongyang, for example, could be theoretically justified by arguing that it would be a legitimate military target (much of North Korea’s command and control infrastructure and leadership is probably located there) and that not doing it would be more consequential (in the same way that the use of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 was buttressed by arguments that ending World War II without a ground invasion of Japan saved lives). Would this reasoning stand up in a court of law? Would it ever come to a court of law? The lawyers making it would know it would never have to: The United States has a weak record on prosecuting its own service members for doing what they could argue they thought was right, whatever the consequences.
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