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Sunday, July 22, 2018 11:57 PM

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/07/20/gallup-poll-russian-meddling-
near-the-bottom-of-american-concerns-immigration-at-the-top

Gallup poll: Russian meddling near the bottom of American concerns; immigration at the top

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-putin-meeting-helsinki-summit-
russia-election-meddling
/
CBS News poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of Putin summit

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/26/russia-americans-trust-
special-counsel-mueller-more-than-trump-usa-today-poll-shows/371345002
/
On Russia, Americans trust special counsel Mueller more than Trump, USA TODAY poll shows

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/poll-russia-meddling-electio
n-mueller-investigation-730529

Poll: 60 percent of Americans say Russia meddled in 2016 election

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/27/17057764/poll-trump-
election-meddling-russia-interference

Most Americans are worried about Russian election meddling — and think Trump isn’t taking it seriously
Americans don’t trust Trump, Congress, or Facebook to solve the Russia interference problem.

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Monday, July 23, 2018 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/07/20/gallup-poll-russian-meddling-
near-the-bottom-of-american-concerns-immigration-at-the-top

Gallup poll: Russian meddling near the bottom of American concerns; immigration at the top

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-putin-meeting-helsinki-summit-
russia-election-meddling
/
CBS News poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of Putin summit

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/26/russia-americans-trust-
special-counsel-mueller-more-than-trump-usa-today-poll-shows/371345002
/
On Russia, Americans trust special counsel Mueller more than Trump, USA TODAY poll shows

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/poll-russia-meddling-electio
n-mueller-investigation-730529

Poll: 60 percent of Americans say Russia meddled in 2016 election

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/27/17057764/poll-trump-
election-meddling-russia-interference

Most Americans are worried about Russian election meddling — and think Trump isn’t taking it seriously
Americans don’t trust Trump, Congress, or Facebook to solve the Russia interference problem.

The Spin Doctors have been insistent on comingling 2 separate stories: meddling in Elections - which every nation does, even to their Allies, including America - by Russia, and the unrelated Fake News Fabricated narrative of Trump! Russia! Collusion!

I'm not sure if your post adds to this confusion, doesn't seem to differentiate between the 2.

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Monday, July 23, 2018 4:19 AM

That's the problem - isn't it?

'You' - including the western propaganda 'news' organizations - can't discuss Russia+election with any level of proportion or integrity.

Instead, it has to be inflated to RUSSIA!!! is THE reason WHY HILLARY LOST and TRUMP WON and there must have been COLLUSION!!! between RUSSIA!!! and TRUMP!!! and WIKILEAKS!!!!!! and RUSSIAN MAGNATES doing PUTIN'S!!!BIDDING ... AND ... AND ... AND ... (add your item of incoherent hysteria here) ...

... all to delegitimize and un-elect the elected President.

I'm just pointing out that all the spin leads to an extremely convoluted, self-contradictory narrative like the set of polls above.

'People' trust Mueller more than they trust Trump and they don't approve of the summit and they think Russia meddled in the the election and that has them concerned ... but they really don't care.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, July 23, 2018 5:08 AM



Would you translate that last line for us, kiki?

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Monday, July 23, 2018 1:16 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:


Would you translate that last line for us, kiki?



Love, love.... LOVE IT! We don't have a laughing hysterically emoji, dammit.

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Monday, July 23, 2018 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

Would you translate that last line for us, kiki?

"Trump will make Russia Again great!"
https://goo.gl/wG7h5S
"Trump will make Russia great again!"
https://goo.gl/YHqyNZ

Trump effect: Republican support for Russia has doubled
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397672-trump-effect-republican-
support-for-russia-has-doubled


Since 2014, the percentage of Republicans who consider Russia an ally has almost doubled from 22 percent to 40 percent. Democrats still have no illusions about Russian intentions since there are few Democrats now (28 percent) or four years ago (25 percent) who believe the Russians are our buddies.

The crossover point according to Gallup when more Republicans thought Russia was friend rather than foe came in March 2015. I don’t think it was a coincidence that was about the time Trump became a star on the GOP presidential stage and started his campaign to make his BFF, Vlad, a saint.

The differences between Democrats and Republicans on Russia are striking. Trump has given new meaning to the phrase “Red State.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 23, 2018 6:03 PM

After reading from a script last week like some errant 5 year old having to make restitution for breaking his neighbor's windows, Trump is back this week to "it could have been anybody." Even while trying to concede that his Intelligence Angencies were right, even after commending them, "my guys are great," he contradicted their findings and himself AGAIN by saying, "or it could have been someone else."

There are only a few plausible reasons for this obvious effed up behavior:

1. dementia.
2. Compulsive liar
3. Fear of what Putin/Russia would do to him if he doesn't behave and follow their directives
4. An asteroid is going to hit the earth within the next 5 years and there's nothing we can do about it.
5. We are all Russian citizens already and there's nothing we can do about it.

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Monday, July 23, 2018 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
After reading from a script last week like some errant 5 year old having to make restitution for breaking his neighbor's windows, Trump is back this week to "it could have been anybody." Even while trying to concede that his Intelligence Angencies were right, even after commending them, "my guys are great," he contradicted their findings and himself AGAIN by saying, "or it could have been someone else."

There are only a few plausible reasons for this obvious effed up behavior:

1. dementia.
2. Compulsive liar
3. Fear of what Putin/Russia would do to him if he doesn't behave and follow their directives
4. An asteroid is going to hit the earth within the next 5 years and there's nothing we can do about it.
5. We are all Russian citizens already and there's nothing we can do about it.



I'm going to go with #6, which is my usual standby to all of the Circus we see.

It's all a big spectacle to keep everybody's heads turned while the real "heist" is happening elsewhere. Trump's probably just an unwitting pawn in all of it, just like the rest of us. I have a feeling something bad probably is about to happen, and whoever is pulling those strings is probably thrilled to have Trump in the President's seat right now. If it wasn't Trump, they'd just have to do all of this from a different angle. Everybody can be manipulated. Trump doesn't need any money. All you have to do is threaten his ego and he'll be too busy writing Tweets all day to notice anything going on. I think it would probably be a lot more work to throw Hillary off the scent, or a lot more money.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 23, 2018 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trump doesn't need any money.



Yeah - you don't understand a core motivation of what makes Trump Trump. It's always about the money. For him, his bank account directly equates to how Great he thinks he is.

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Monday, July 23, 2018 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trump doesn't need any money.



Yeah - you don't understand a core motivation of what makes Trump Trump. It's always about the money. For him, his bank account directly equates to how Great he thinks he is.



Read the rest of my post instead of cherry picking one single sentence and you'll see that I already covered that very notion.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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