This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
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UPDATED: Tuesday, April 7, 2026 22:00
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
In Blumpyworld, the interests of infant formula makers are more important than the health of babies.
Unless, of course, Pooty tells you to stop. Then you do what he says. His wishes are paramount to Blumpy.
I'd have thought you'd be all on board with infant formula.
It's got everything your vegan pussy diet has.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
That's because you don't know anything about anything. You're just a broken, miserable person, and you don't think it's your own fault.
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I see multiple pages of REAVERFAN stomping his feet and banging his fists.
HAHAHAHA!!!!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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HHS official celebrates Kennedy retirement with anti-choice activists: ‘We’re just getting started’
With Justice Kennedy on the way out, the assault on women's rights is fully underway.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-war-women-health-f911853ed071/
Say goodbye to worker's rights, education, affordable health care, and any other social good achieved in the 20th century, too.
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Quote:You see me owning you, and have no counter because you lost.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see multiple pages of REAVERFAN stomping his feet and banging his fists.
HAHAHAHA!!!!
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Quote:I think you have this backwards. The point is that people who are fussing about Trump are hypocrites if they don't ALSO fuss over Obama.
Ok, maybe I'm not making this clear. Yes, he deported people, as the LAW required. But, as we seem to agree upon 1 item, policy is determined by the executive branch of government...Yes. Then, as I have stated, why are people, such as yourself, making a big to-do about Obama deporting people. Isn't that what people want?
That's why I'm calling "hypocrites" to those fussing over this issue.
Quote:I heard a story on NPR about this poor, hapless Honduran (or maybe Ecuadorian) mother who brought her four children across the border with her, and how she was stuck in detention in New Mexico (or Arizona) while her four children were all the way in New York state. She WAS on contact with them (by phone) and her oldest son breathlessly informed her that he got to see the Statue of Liberty, in person, and how HUGE it was and how exciting!
Secondly, my issue with the fucking Trump regime is the cruel and abhorent treatment of the kids - locking them in jails, never bathing or feeding them properly, having them sleep on cold concrete floors, improper health and medical treatment, etc. They also have contracted military-run companies to care for these children; people that haven't a clue as to how to care for children. I could go on, but you get the idea.
If that was the worst that NPR could dig up, then where are these hellholes of which you speak?
Quote:Not according to NPR, which has a well-established, anti-Trump bias. According to them, the computer systems which track the children do not communicate with the ICE computer systems, and therein lies the problem. Also, they are applying DNA testing to make sure that the adults are the true parents.
Now it turns out that the "government" cannot keep the deadline set by the judge to reunite the kids (babies under 5) with their parents. They requested more time, this after the head of HHS testified in Congress that they could match the kids and parents with a few keystrokes on the computer. In other words, THEY LIED.
The end of this story about the poor hapless mother and her four children is that she was bonded out of detention, saw her children (who, she said, looked "fatter", which she was happy with) and was donated an apartment in NYC so she could be close to her children.
Do you have LINKS for these allegations? Or is this all just rumor, allegation, and outraged hyperbole?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Hey Six, you want in on this discussion, then bring something more than Shit of the WeaK. Otherwise, butt out.
Seriously, you got something to say....Say It.
sgg
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:I can't speak for 'people' but I can speak for myself. I'm not sure where you got the idea *I* advocate for deporting anyone. I don't think I've made a case one way or the other, only that Trump - and Obama - are within what is legally allowed.
Then, as I have stated, why are people, such as yourself, making a big to-do about Obama deporting people.
Isn't that what people want?
My point is that people need to take stock of where they are ON THE ISSUE, no mater who is in the WH. Do you think that Trump is evil for deporting people? Then that makes Obama even more evil. Do you think Trump is evil for separating parents and children? Then that makes Obama even more evil. Do you think Trump is evil for handing children over to for-profit contractors? Then that makes Obama even more evil.
For everything Trump has done, Obama has done it as well, but moreso.Quote:So am I, unless of course they're being consistent ON THE ISSUES, in which case, they're not hypocrites for holding Trump and Obama to different standards.
That's why I'm calling "hypocrites" to those fussing over this issue.Quote:Well ... Obama did the same thing. The circumstances were different. Trump separated families at the border, while Obama separated families already living here in the US. But if you live in the SoCal area, I'm sure you remember the news stories of children who came home from school and found their parents had completely vanished. That was Obama.
Secondly, my issue with the fucking Trump regime is the cruel and abhorrent
treatment of the kids - locking them in jails, never bathing or feeding
them properly, having them sleep on cold concrete floors, improper health
and medical treatment, etc. They also have contracted military-run companies
to care for these children; people that haven't a clue as to how to care
for children.Quote:I do. And I appreciate your reply.
I could go on, but you get the idea.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Post of the week.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Did Obama close Gitmo? Close the government/ lobby revolving door? Reform the banks? Prosecute anyone for their role 2007/ 2008? Raise the minimum wage? Keep immigrant families together? Create the most transparent administration, ever? Or reward whistleblowers? Stop NSA bulk data collection? (White House allows NSA's bulk data collection to continue - CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/.../white-house-allows-nsa-bulk-data-collectio
Originally posted by reaverfan:
The old "both parties are the same" canard. You guys really are falling apart!
n-to-continue/ Feb 3, 2015 - One year after Obama called for NSA reforms, the White House unveils modest surveillance changes that allow for continued bulk data ...) Stop insanely sending US forces and the CIA all around the globe? Shrink the wealth gap? (or at least hold it steady?)
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Vox Article regarding Trump vs. Obama handling of immigration
http://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17488458/obama-immigration-policy-family-
separation-border
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I'm pretty familiar with the specifics, though it was nice to see them compiled in one place.
The one specific objection I have to the article is that it glosses over how MANY people Obama deported, as if his numbers weren't extraordinary - especially in terms of family separation - in order to focus exclusively on border practices. It misses a big part of the picture. Obama isn't nicer by comparison because his border policies were marginally better; when his deportation practices were far more draconian.
Also, I do wonder about the basic premise of the article. It seems to imply that illegal border crossing is normal, expectable, and allowable as long as the numbers aren't as high as they used to be (at some undefined level). I don't know that I've ever seen a discussion about whether zero illegal border crossing is a worthwhile goal. And if not, why not.
It seems we strive for a law abiding society in other areas: we don't discuss acceptable levels of rapes, murders, muggings, car thefts, and so on. Why should illegal border crossing be different?
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I'm pretty familiar with the specifics, though it was nice to see them compiled in one place.
The one specific objection I have to the article is that it glosses over how MANY people Obama deported, as if his numbers weren't extraordinary - especially in terms of family separation - in order to focus exclusively on border practices. It misses a big part of the picture. Obama isn't nicer by comparison because his border policies were marginally better; when his deportation practices were far more draconian.
Also, I do wonder about the basic premise of the article. It seems to imply that illegal border crossing is normal, expectable, and allowable as long as the numbers aren't as high as they used to be (at some undefined level). I don't know that I've ever seen a discussion about whether zero illegal border crossing is a worthwhile goal. And if not, why not.
It seems we strive for a law abiding society in other areas: we don't discuss acceptable levels of rapes, murders, muggings, car thefts, and so on. Why should illegal border crossing be different?
That fact that you and Siggy keep comparing Trump to Obama to find a hint of a thread of negativity is enough for me to know your intentions are bent. Where were you guys during Obama's admin? I don't recall you saying anything good or bad on immigration, and according to at least SIGGY's latest stance on immigration, she should be saying, "sure wish we could go back to the good ole days when Obama kept even more people out - Trump is soft." But no, don't hear that. All I hear is double deflection talk.
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